US Marines on the Ground in Iraq as ISIS Burns 45 Alive

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US Marines on the Ground in Iraq as ISIS Burns 45 Alive
The Fiscal Times By Riyadh Mohammed

Iraqi local officials in Iraq’s town of al-Baghdadi have warned of another ISIS mass burning massacre. The terror organization surrounded a compound several days ago that houses more than 1000 families and burned 45 people alive.

“ISIS has killed more than 150 people from al-Obaid tribe...some of them were burned alive and some were beheaded...they were policemen...some of them fought against ISIS before,” said sheikh Mal Allah al-Obaidi, the head of the local council in the al-Baghdadi.

An Iraqi air base is located next to al-Baghdadi. More than 300 US military service members are providing training, and coordinating US air raids there. As the US military official at the central command announced that the US will train 12 Iraqi brigades to start an Iraqi operation to liberate the northern city of Mosul in April or May, reports emerged suggesting US Marines will conduct a limited operation in the border area between Iraq, Syria, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to strike ISIS jihadists who control the border area.

“US forces have landed in al-Habbaniya air base,” said Saadon Shehan, a blogger from al-Ramadi, the provincial capital of al-Anbar province in western Iraq.

Read more: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-marines-ground-iraq-isis-204300316.html

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When will Daesh burn its first American soldier?

Coming to your living room soon.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

1. They wanted this to happen

Nows when the real fun begins.

[Journeyman]

2. And I can't help but think of Abraham Lincoln: "I may walk slow," he said, "but I never walk back."

[Fred Sanders]

3. ISIS tried to attack the base......slaughtered like cattle. The base is in little danger.

[Renew Deal]

9. Is there a link for this info?

First time I heard they attacked the base.

[freshwest]

15. You're saying they attacked the Marines? Please give me a link or story name to learn more. TIA.

[TwilightGardener]

18. The Marines weren't involved in repelling the attack--

http://www.newsweek.com/iraqi-forces-fend-isis-attack-anbar-air-base-used-united-states-marines-306708

[freshwest]

19. Thanks, I couldn't access that site. but found two. Pretty confusing reports.

Some other websites said, '300 Marines Trapped' and '300 Marines Killed.'

Then I found these two, but not much text:

Iraqi Forces Fend off ISIS Attack on Anbar Air Base Used By United States Marines

By Polly Mosendz 2/13/15 at 1:33 PM



An Iraqi Shi'ite fighter walks past walls painted with the Islamic State flag. Reuters

The Islamic State (ISIS) attacked an air base in Anbar, Iraq where U.S. Marines train members of the Iraqi military’s 7th division, according to Reuters. There are more than 300 Marines at the base.  

Iraqi soldiers squared off with the militants, and successfully stopped the attack. “Coalition forces were several kilometres from the attack and at no stage were they under direct threat from this action," a U.S. defense official told Reuters. Eight members of ISIS were killed during the battle.

Prior to this attack, ISIS has been fighting to keep control of al-Baghdadi, a town in northern Iraq. The United States has led air strikes over the area, including seven strikes between Thursday and Friday mornings. According to the U.S. Central Command, strikes in Iraq hit tactical units of the Islamic State in Tal Afar, Makhmur, Fallujah, Mosul, Kirkurk and al-Asad. 

http://www.newsweek.com/iraqi-forces-fend-isis-attack-anbar-air-base-used-united-states-marines-306708?piano_t=1

Not exactly a bloodbath on either side, and the Marines training Iraqis isn't new. But... the Iraqis succesfully repelled ISIS. Gotta wonder about the Shia walking in from of a - what - and ISIS storefront?

Found a similar piece from Huffpo:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/13/isis-attack-marines_n_6677714.html

[tiptonic]

4. This time

Just wondering if any of the bush family, or the cheney family, will fight this time.

[wordpix]

6. Probably why repukes aren't screaming louder for boots on the ground

They know they'll be asked why they're not sending their own sons if not daughters and it will be a Big Question in '16.

[Historic NY]

5. Its Time to burn ISIS, to stone ash.

[ohnoyoudidnt]

17. Easier said than done.

Destabilizing Iraq created one hell of a mess. The knee-jerk reaction to these atrocities it to annihilate the fuckers. Unfortunately, things are not that simple. They are not easy targets. They are among civilians. Dropping bombs will kill civilians. Ground forces will result in the death of soldiers. Then there are Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds, all with issues with each other. I don't know the answer, but Iraq was a hell of a lot more stable than before our invasion.

[wordpix]

7. those poor people being starved to death

someone has to help them. Just hope a coalition will come together to get rid of ISIS. Aren't they pissing enough people off by now over there?

[markpkessinger]

8. Hedges: The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get

[font size=5]The Terror We Give Is the Terror We Get[/font]

By Chris Hedges

We fire missiles from the sky that incinerate families huddled in their houses. They incinerate a pilot cowering in a cage. We torture hostages in our black sites and choke them to death by stuffing rags down their throats. They torture hostages in squalid hovels and behead them. We organize Shiite death squads to kill Sunnis. They organize Sunni death squads to kill Shiites. We produce high-budget films such as “American Sniper” to glorify our war crimes. They produce inspirational videos to glorify their twisted version of jihad.

The barbarism we condemn is the barbarism we commit. The line that separates us from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is technological, not moral. We are those we fight.

“From violence, only violence is born,” Primo Levi wrote, “following a pendular action that, as time goes by, rather than dying down, becomes more frenzied.”

The burning of the pilot, Jordanian Lt. Muath Al-Kaseasbeh, by ISIS militants after his F-16 crashed near Raqqa, Syria, was as gruesome as anything devised for the Roman amphitheater. And it was meant to be. Death is the primary spectacle of war. If ISIS had fighter jets, missiles, drones and heavy artillery to bomb American cities there would be no need to light a captured pilot on fire; ISIS would be able to burn human beings, as we do, from several thousand feet up. But since ISIS is limited in its capacity for war it must broadcast to the world a miniature version of what we do to people in the Middle East. The ISIS process is cruder. The result is the same.

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[Brigid]

10. About a month ago,

A DUer was posting about their mother, in her eighties, watching the news about ISIS and crying. I am 30 years younger, and feel the same. Here we go again, and there seems to be nothing we can do to stop it.

[markpkessinger]

11. To quote a current post in Good Reads . . .

Jon Stewart: “Right now, the Middle East is spiraling out of control. What should America do about this?”
Bassem Youssef, Egyptian comedian and satirist: “Well, how about… nothing.”
—The Daily Show, February 9, 2015

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016114930

[Brigid]

12. Youssef is right.

There really is nothing we can do, and anything we might try is almost certain to make the situation worse.

[Kennah]

13. Third Iraq War, starting soon. WWIII to follow.

[ReRe]

16. Seriously...

...that whole article is like and advertisement for ISIS. Or for the MIC. Which is it? Both, I think.

[Octoberfurst]

20. ISIS fanatics sicken me.

I just shake my head in disgust at the latest atrocities committed by ISIS. They are a group of sociopaths who must be stopped. However that is easier said than done. How do we do this exactly? As others pointed out they move among the civilian population so to just outright attack them means a LOT of innocent civilians will be killed which will cause more hatred for the US. And I am sure they would LOVE nothing more than American boots on the ground so they could say this was a holy war against the infidels. Fighting them on their turf would bleed us dry.
So the other solution is to arm those who are fighting ISIS---the Kurds, the Shiites, etc. However there is no way of knowing whether this will lead to a genocide against ALL Sunni's---since ISIS is a Sunni lead fighter group. So if the people we are arming to fight ISIS turn out to be homicidal maniacs what do we do then? Arm the Sunnis?
Of course we could always let the Arab nations in the region fight ISIS. The Saudis, the Jordanians, the Lebanese, etc. But that poses problems too like what if ISIS starts kicking their asses? Then what do we do?
There is no easy solution to this. I for one would not want that decision on my shoulders. Those on the Right who are calling for military action are just morons in my opinion. They don't think things through. No matter what happens it won't be pretty.

[OKNancy]

21. Locking - duplicate topic - Note this happened several days ago

Here is the oler thread on the same subject: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141016369