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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,584 posts)
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 04:54 PM Feb 2015

South Carolina college bans homosexuality after two volleyball players come out as gay

Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

By Marissa Payne February 27 at 1:26 PM
@marissapayne

Erskine College in Due West, South Carolina, describes itself as a “liberal arts” institution, but as far as that freedom applies to the hearts and minds of its students, it seems limited. In response to two male athletes on its volleyball team coming out in an article published on OutSports.com last year, the college, which is aligned with the Associate Reformed Presbyterian tradition, has chosen to ban homosexuality from its campus. The policy, which was submitted by the Student Services and Athletic Committee and adopted by the board of trustees last Friday, reads:

{snip}

The so-called “Statement on Human Sexuality” will now be added to the school’s official manuals and used to further make procedural rulings, according to an article posted to Erskine’s official Web site on Thursday.

“The release of this statement makes me disappointed because I have never received anything but kind treatment from everyone at this school, and my sexual orientation is no secret. So it took me by surprise,” Juan Varona, who along with Drew Davis, was one of the two volleyball players who came out, said via OutSports.com. “I understand the religious stand on adultery, which is part of the Ten Commandments in the Bible, and that would apply to heterosexual and homosexual people. But when I saw the mention of sexual orientation being an issue, it just made me sad and worried for other gay people who might be struggling with confidence to come out.”

Reaction from those outside the college has been mostly negative, with many taking to Twitter to denounce what they see as a step in the wrong direction in a state that has already legalized gay marriage.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/02/27/south-carolina-college-bans-homosexuality-after-two-volleyball-players-come-out-as-gay/



The Washington Post is a day behind Outsports:

South Carolina college with two out gay athletes bans homosexuality in the name of God

ETA: Also, see posts #18 and #25. There may be some clarification needed. The college has issued a statement saying that it has not "banned" anything. Rather, it has issued a “Statement on Human Sexuality.” Thanks, riversedge and passiveporcupine.

ETA some more: I checked the Washington Post on Saturday afternoon to see if it had changed the headline, and indeed it had. The headline is now "South Carolina college denounces homosexuality after two volleyball players come out as gay."

I don't know if LBN rules permit a change at this date.
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South Carolina college bans homosexuality after two volleyball players come out as gay (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 OP
what century is this again? niyad Feb 2015 #1
it is obviously the dark ages in South Carolina. olddad56 Feb 2015 #34
Fuck South Carolina romanic Feb 2015 #2
It's the church denomination's position, not South Carolina's. n/t ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #4
You're right. romanic Feb 2015 #8
I understand. No blood, no foul. ColesCountyDem Feb 2015 #21
Makes about as much sense as banning baldness. Jeeze Louise! nt 7962 Feb 2015 #3
Baldness is a choice. Just ask Donald Trump. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #5
It's Adam and Eve. christx30 Feb 2015 #12
Gov Scott Walker, a few months ago actually his bald spot was from hitting riversedge Feb 2015 #13
Another WTF moment. In_The_Wind Feb 2015 #6
Reminds me of the passage in "Jane Eyre" in which the puritanical headmaster Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2015 #7
Not really specializing in education are they? TNNurse Feb 2015 #9
That'll work! Quantess Feb 2015 #10
What would they say ... GeorgeGist Feb 2015 #11
We know they won't ever accept that fact. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #17
Or that he never existed. n/t Gore1FL Feb 2015 #23
You can't "ban" homosexuality. Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #14
What a f/cking joke this "school" is. blkmusclmachine Feb 2015 #15
South Carolina is in Russia??? Who knew! nt procon Feb 2015 #16
This statement says it does not BAN homosexuality.... riversedge Feb 2015 #18
thank you passiveporcupine Feb 2015 #25
that is just damage control Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #30
The Washington Post changed the headline. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2015 #35
Here's what the college says about the so called 'ban': sinkingfeeling Feb 2015 #19
weasel words.nt. Warren Stupidity Feb 2015 #31
Back and fill, back and fill, back and fill . . . hatrack Feb 2015 #32
Sounds like its time to get the NCAA involved imo and ban the colleges team from cstanleytech Feb 2015 #20
Not SC!!! Gamecock Lefty Feb 2015 #22
I was thinking of going on vacation there. lark Feb 2015 #24
that'll teach 'em Skittles Feb 2015 #26
Idiots, complete idiots. These people are scary. And I mean 'Nazi' scary. YOHABLO Feb 2015 #27
Is bisexuality only half banned? AlbertCat Feb 2015 #28
What the college did is despicable and beneath contempt . . . markpkessinger Feb 2015 #29
Many years ago, Pres. Gerald Ford created "WIN," in a misguided, ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #33

romanic

(2,841 posts)
8. You're right.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:04 PM
Feb 2015

I'm just so used to crossing off places that treat gay people like the plague that it just comes as a reflex. Sorry.

riversedge

(70,282 posts)
13. Gov Scott Walker, a few months ago actually his bald spot was from hitting
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:10 PM
Feb 2015

his head on a kitchen cupboard he was fixing. Lots of jollies over that one. He has definite male pattern baldness setting in--yet he publicly made that announcement out of the blue one day.


I know this changes the subject--but just had to jump in on that one.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
7. Reminds me of the passage in "Jane Eyre" in which the puritanical headmaster
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:03 PM
Feb 2015

of the boarding school gets angry at one of the girls for having naturally curly hair.

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
9. Not really specializing in education are they?
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:05 PM
Feb 2015

I hope graduates send their diplomas back. I hope students transfer in huge numbers.

Do they have any kind of accreditation? Pretty sure that should be gone, too.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
14. You can't "ban" homosexuality.
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:10 PM
Feb 2015

All you can do is force it back into the closet. I wish all gay, bi, transgendered, etc. people would withdraw from that school. It would be nice to see their enrollment plummet within a 4 year period, as everyone starts to boycott them. That'll teach 'em.

riversedge

(70,282 posts)
18. This statement says it does not BAN homosexuality....
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:17 PM
Feb 2015

But I can understand that gays may not feel all that welcome by some.




This link came up when I clicked the Policy highlighted word in the OP:

http://news.erskine.edu/context-for-erskines-statement-on-human-sexuality/


Context for Erskine’s Statement on Human Sexuality

Posted on February 27, 2015

download-1The recent coverage of Erskine’s Statement on Human Sexuality has generated considerable confusion based on an inaccurate understanding of the nature of the statement and its intent.

This statement describes a position. It does not prescribe a policy and does not ‘ban’ any individual or class of individuals from attending Erskine. No students have been asked to leave Erskine based on this statement.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
25. thank you
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:57 PM
Feb 2015

While this policy change is very disturbing for a college (even though this is a religious based college), especially when SC is trying to accept gay marriage, this is not a BAN, and I wish to hell newspapers would quit doing this. Especially news sources with a left wing bias. This makes us all look bad.

Most people won't check out the story...they just run with what they read in the headlines.

what gets me though is they also say they are against sex outside of marriage. At a college. Good luck with that one.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
30. that is just damage control
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:51 AM
Feb 2015


In Action We believe the Bible teaches that all sexual activity outside the covenant of marriage is sinful and therefore ultimately destructive to the parties involved. As a Christian academic community, and in light of our institutional mission, members of the Erskine community are expected to follow the teachings of scripture concerning matters of human sexuality and institutional decisions will be made in light of this position.


Seems quite clear to me, no matter how much bullshit they toss out for damage control, what the policy is.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,584 posts)
35. The Washington Post changed the headline.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 03:57 PM
Feb 2015

Last edited Sat Feb 28, 2015, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

I checked the Washington Post on Saturday afternoon to see if it had changed the headline, and indeed it had. The headline is now South Carolina college denounces homosexuality after two volleyball players come out as gay. The article contains these paragraphs:

The statement will now be added to the school’s official manuals and used to further make procedural rulings, according to an article posted to Erskine’s official Web site on Thursday.

It is unclear how the newly adopted statement will affect student life going forward, however, Erskine said in a followup statement on Friday that the new language “does not ‘ban’ any individual or class of individuals from attending Erskine.” It will, however, make students who identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT), including Juan Varona, who along with Drew Davis, was one of the two volleyball players who came out last year, feel unwelcome and disappointed.

I don't know if LBN rules permit a change at this date. I think I have to go with what it said originally.

Thank you, riversedge, passiveporcupine, and sinkingfeeling, for noting the inaccuracy in the original headline.

sinkingfeeling

(51,470 posts)
19. Here's what the college says about the so called 'ban':
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:22 PM
Feb 2015

"This statement describes a position. It does not prescribe a policy and does not ‘ban’ any individual or class of individuals from attending Erskine. No students have been asked to leave Erskine based on this statement."

"Our conduct policies do not stipulate any minimum mandatory sanctions (such as expulsion) for any behavior or belief. "

"Erskine recognizes the complexity of current issues regarding sexual morality, marriage, and other expressions of human sexuality such as same-sex attraction, gender identity, and sex outside the covenant of marriage. Therefore, the Erskine community is advised to practice humility and prayerfulness when engaging in any conversations or other actions related to these topics. Erskine’s conduct policies and procedures seek to uphold biblical standards, promote repentance and grace, and point people to Jesus Christ."

http://news.erskine.edu/context-for-erskines-statement-on-human-sexuality/

cstanleytech

(26,317 posts)
20. Sounds like its time to get the NCAA involved imo and ban the colleges team from
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

participating in NCAA games.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
22. Not SC!!!
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 06:15 PM
Feb 2015

Geez, Erskine, how do you ban homosexuality on campus? As a Carolina graduate (and gay man) in my home state of SC I must say this surprises me about Erskine. I am not surprised by the likes of ‘institutions’ like Bob Jones, but Erskine – I am surprised.

Come on down to Carolina in Columbia – we’ll gladly take you!

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
29. What the college did is despicable and beneath contempt . . .
Fri Feb 27, 2015, 11:28 PM
Feb 2015

. . . but the author of the article should really look up the meaning of the term "liberal arts," which really has nothing at all to do with relative degrees of liberalism, social or political.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
33. Many years ago, Pres. Gerald Ford created "WIN," in a misguided,
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 11:03 AM
Feb 2015

poorly designed, and utterly worthless effort to stop hyperinflation in the US (which was basically oil driven). WIN stood for Whip Inflation Now. Although some S&M folks got a kick out of the Whip part, the rest of the world yawned, and wondered if the US would ever develop non-petroleum energy sources, which would have been a far more beneficial and productive approach.

This move strikes me as impotent and useless as Ford's.

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