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Omaha Steve

(99,708 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 07:31 AM Apr 2015

Video: Islamic State group destroys ancient ruins of Nimrud

Source: AP-Excite

By SINAN SALAHEDDIN

BAGHDAD (AP) — Islamic State militants hammered, bulldozed and ultimately blew up parts of the ancient Iraqi Assyrian city of Nimrud, destroying a site dating back to the 13th century B.C., an online militant video purportedly shows.

The destruction at Nimrud, located near the militant-held city of Mosul, came amid other attacks on antiquity carried out by the group now holding a third of Iraq and neighboring Syria in its self-declared caliphate. The attacks have horrified archaeologists and U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who last month called the destruction at Nimrud "a war crime."

The seven-minute video, posted late Saturday, shows bearded militants using sledgehammers, jackhammers and saws to take down huge alabaster reliefs depicting Assyrian kings and deities. A bulldozer brings down walls, while militants fill barrels with explosives and later destroy three separate areas of the site in massive explosions.

"God has honored us in the Islamic State to remove all of these idols and statutes worshipped instead of Allah in the past days," one militant says in the video. Another militant vows that "whenever we seize a piece of land, we will remove signs of idolatry and spread monotheism."

FULL story at link.



In this image made from video posted on a militant social media account affiliated with the Islamic State group late Saturday, April 11, 2015, purports to show militants destroying the ancient Iraqi Assyrian city of Nimrud, a site dating back to the 13th century B.C., near the militant-held city of Mosul, Iraq. The destruction at Nimrud, follows other attacks on antiquity carried out by the group now holding a third of Iraq and neighboring Syria in its self-declared caliphate. The attacks have horrified archaeologists and U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who last month called the destruction at Nimrud "a war crime.&quot militant video via AP)


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20150412/ml--islamic_state-2aecb1191c.html

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Video: Islamic State group destroys ancient ruins of Nimrud (Original Post) Omaha Steve Apr 2015 OP
Wal-Mart destroys Indian mound and replaces it with Sam's Club Downwinder Apr 2015 #1
That's the fanaticism or fascism we need to worry about . orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #2
Anything to try to minimize the fucking fundies destroying history eh? snooper2 Apr 2015 #22
Who is minimizeing? Downwinder Apr 2015 #24
It's unreal. So far in this thread we have.. melman Apr 2015 #29
The mound is not man-made Lipss Apr 2015 #28
Here is the video of the Islamic terrorists destroying the city seveneyes Apr 2015 #3
Well. Now the world is much poorer and more ignorant. Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #8
These statues, ancient cities, and other signs of "idolarty" existed while Mohommed bloomington-lib Apr 2015 #4
Thank you Dick Cheney, Rummy, w, and others for your war that helped to make ISIS Botany Apr 2015 #5
Smoke looks the same as when white folks attacked and destroyed the black community jtuck004 Apr 2015 #6
Nimrud disproves the RW fundie myth that Earth is only 6000 years old -well not anymore Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #12
They can destroy all they want - those ancient ruins are well known, have been researched and jwirr Apr 2015 #7
Nihilism. CJCRANE Apr 2015 #9
Christians did the same thing to ancient Greek temples. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #10
Religions are like infectious diseases. Lionel Mandrake Apr 2015 #13
Good point. Like psychopaths, they mellow out with age. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #14
While I don't disagree that it happened bighart Apr 2015 #19
You "don't disagree"? Larry Engels Apr 2015 #21
I read your post and my question stands bighart Apr 2015 #26
Because human history goes back further than 5 minutes ago. closeupready Apr 2015 #25
It's sad to see so much human history being destroyed rainmaker21 Apr 2015 #11
Also there's the aesthetic value. Larry Engels Apr 2015 #27
I'm just curious... gregcrawford Apr 2015 #15
Assholes. NuclearDem Apr 2015 #16
I blame Bu$h. roamer65 Apr 2015 #17
Saddam would have lived forever if not for us? FrodosPet Apr 2015 #18
IS will use modern weapons of war LibertyLover Apr 2015 #20
So fucking sad- none of this can ever be replaced Marrah_G Apr 2015 #23
 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
2. That's the fanaticism or fascism we need to worry about .
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 07:57 AM
Apr 2015

We found Sadam in a hole ,but no one can stop these guys,,Hmmmm

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
8. Well. Now the world is much poorer and more ignorant.
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:26 AM
Apr 2015

How low can humanity go? Wait, don't answer that.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
4. These statues, ancient cities, and other signs of "idolarty" existed while Mohommed
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 09:01 AM
Apr 2015

was came and went. Why didn't he demand their destruction back then if it was so important to do so?

Botany

(70,581 posts)
5. Thank you Dick Cheney, Rummy, w, and others for your war that helped to make ISIS
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:40 AM
Apr 2015

And yet Cheney can go talk shows and tell people "how bad" a job President Obama is doing.



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/12/09/170606/-Bush-did-NOT-know-there-was-difference-between-Sunni-amp-Shiite-Muslims-until-Jan-03#


THU DEC 08, 2005 AT 06:52 PM PST
Bush did NOT know there was difference between Sunni & Shiite Muslims until Jan '03


In case you missed it like me, here's more proof our president is in over his head, a national security risk. According to Peter Galbraith former U.S. diplomat on a Channel 4 special aired Nov 21, Bush didn't know there was a difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims as late as January 2003. The report (link to video at the Dossier below) has a lot more ...here's the part where Bush shows again how in over his head he really is.

Oborne: I traveled to Boston to meet a former U.S. diplomat who had been a leading authority on Iraq for over a decade. A chance remark made just two months before the war, hinted at how the complexities of Iraq had bewildered Americans at the highest levels.

Peter Galbraith - former U.S. diplomat: January 2003 the President invited three members of the Iraqi opposition to join him to watch the Super Bowl. In the course of the conversation the Iraqis realized that the President was not aware that there was a difference between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. He looked at them and said, "You mean...they're not, you know, there, there's this difference. What is it about?"

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. Smoke looks the same as when white folks attacked and destroyed the black community
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 10:55 AM
Apr 2015

of Greenwood, near Tulsa, OK, in 1921.

Some things never change,,,

Pooka Fey

(3,496 posts)
12. Nimrud disproves the RW fundie myth that Earth is only 6000 years old -well not anymore
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 01:01 PM
Apr 2015

since it's been wiped off the map by Islamic State.

To talk in depth about your addition to the thread, Greenwood OK still exists. The city was not blown up, nor completely destroyed by the white mobs of the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. Troops were sent in by the government to quell the riots.

Greenwood is a neighborhood in Tulsa, Oklahoma. As one of the most successful and wealthiest African American communities in the United States during the early 20th Century, it was popularly known as America's "Black Wall Street" until the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921. The invasion was one of the most devastating massacres in the history of US race relations, destroying the once thriving Greenwood community.


The City of Tulsa submitted an application to the U.S. Department of the Interior, for the "Greenwood Historic District" on September 29, 2011. On August 8, 2012, the Coordinator of the National Register Program wrote the Tulsa Preservation Commission that the proposed District would be renamed as the Tulsa Race Riot of 1921.[19] As of November 2014, the proposed Historic District had not been implemented.

The John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park, originally funded by the State of Oklahoma, City of Tulsa and private donors, iis now owned by the city and managed by the non-profit corporation, John Hope Franklin Center for Reconciliation.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood_%28Tulsa%29

Nevertheless, to get back to the OP, I'm having trouble tying this episode of American 20th century violence and racism against the African American community to the recent destruction of Nimrud, a 15,000 year old city in Asia which survived the passage of both the Prophet Mohammed and Saladin, considered to be THE MOST IMPORTANT archeological site on Earth, but was destroyed by the radical Islamic State who believe that artwork depicting ancient pagan gods are idolatry and must be destroyed.

Maybe you should start an OP about the Tulsa Race Riots, and leave this thread for discussing Omaha Steve's OP?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
7. They can destroy all they want - those ancient ruins are well known, have been researched and
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 11:14 AM
Apr 2015

documented for years. They are the losers - the world has all the videos etc so those "idols" are here to stay.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
13. Religions are like infectious diseases.
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 02:01 PM
Apr 2015

Younger ones tend to be virulent. They damage or kill their hosts. Older ones tend to be less destructive.

bighart

(1,565 posts)
19. While I don't disagree that it happened
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:12 AM
Apr 2015

I am wondering why something that happened 1700 years ago seems relevant to you today.

I am saddened and outraged at the destruction of art and culture that is occurring today and don't need to point my fingers back 1700 years and say "well others did too".

These acts by this group in this time are disgusting and heartbreaking. I get just as pissed when I hear of artifacts being stolen and sold on the black market. All of these ancient sites and items are irreplaceable cultural history.

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
21. You "don't disagree"?
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 10:54 AM
Apr 2015

And you want to know my motives? Re-read my post. I am not going to repeat myself.

bighart

(1,565 posts)
26. I read your post and my question stands
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 03:07 PM
Apr 2015

My point was, and I obviously didn't communicate it well, that nothing can be done about something that happened 1700 years ago but we sure could do something about what's going on today. I don't care if it's being done by religious fanatics like ISIL or by greedy bastards that are stealing artifacts and selling them for a profit it needs to be stopped.

There is no acceptable or excusable reason for either and we need to figure out how to stop it. It's heartbreaking whatever century it's being done in

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
25. Because human history goes back further than 5 minutes ago.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 01:49 PM
Apr 2015

That's why something that happened 1700 years ago is relevant to this story - our knowledge of human history informs us that stupid shit happening five minutes ago is, in some ways, not much different than what happened 1700 years ago.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
15. I'm just curious...
Sun Apr 12, 2015, 04:49 PM
Apr 2015

... have these putrid piles of pig shit bothered to offer a reason for this wanton destruction of their OWN history?

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
17. I blame Bu$h.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:03 AM
Apr 2015

He's the a$$hole who went in and removed Saddam. Removing Saddam started this whole shitstorm and it likely will end up in a very large regional ME war.

FrodosPet

(5,169 posts)
18. Saddam would have lived forever if not for us?
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:26 AM
Apr 2015

Not to defend Bush... I am sure his policies sped up the timetable... but this was bound to happen in some form. The first WTC attack, the embassy bombings in Kenya and Sudan... all that happened before Shrub got to office.

His degenerate sons would have likely ended up fighting each other when pops was gone, which would have left a power vacuum filled by who? Iran or ISIL?

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
20. IS will use modern weapons of war
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 09:37 AM
Apr 2015

the more modern the better in fact, but they destroy a major world historic site because it's pre-Islamic and pagan. Can we say "hypocrites" boys and girls? Every once in a while a group comes along that just begs to be eradicated and for me, holding a degree in Ancient Near Eastern History and Culture, ISIL is one of those groups.

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