Two fatally shot after van strikes toddler in Milwaukee

[Novara]

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - A Milwaukee driver was fatally shot, along with a teenager at the scene, after he hit a toddler who had run into the street, police said on Monday.

The 41-year-old driver struck a 2-year-old on the city's northwest side at about 5 p.m. local time on Sunday, a police spokesman said.

The man was shot and killed when he got out of his van to check on the child, who died at the scene, according to authorities. Police said they believe the alleged shooter was provoked by the toddler being struck.

A 15-year-old boy, who was the toddler's brother, was also shot at the scene during the incident. It is unclear whether the teenager, who later died, was a passenger in the van or a bystander, according to police.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/13/us-usa-wisconsin-crime-idUSKBN0N418120150413?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

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Because an armed society is such a polite society, you know.

[Lunabell]

1. Oh God

The easy access to guns in this country is appalling. So sad for all involved.

[HassleCat]

2. NRA is right

There should have been more armed citizens on scene. That way, everybody could have shot each other, and we wouldn't have to have all sorts of complicated inquires into who was responsible, etc. As long as the fire department arrives quickly and hoses away the blood before it gets all sticky.

[Arugula Latte]

7. The fire department is socialistic, though.

I don't want my taxes going to blood washing and fire drenching and the like. Those taxes should be going straight to Halliburton execs.

[Plucketeer]

18. Not juust armed

There needs to be a good guy with a gun. This would ensure justice. They (the good guys) should be required to wear white hats so's we could easily recognize them during any incidents of gunfire.

[samsingh]

3. this is the result of the nra and gun lovers wet dream. anyone can pull a weapon and shoot anyone

through in florida and say it's all self defense.

[lark]

4. No, not anyone.

In the state of FL, only white males are allowed to kill anyone with impunity. Woman and minorities go to jail if they do that.

[samsingh]

8. good point

[valerief]

5. Maybe they had to die, but at least the FREEDUMB and LIBERTEA to be armed

was protected.



FFS, what is wrong with people??????????

[samsingh]

9. nra, proliferation of guns, dirty harry mentality

[PatrynXX]

6. so man who's no hit and run gets out and killed for it

that should encourage more hit and runs smh

[Shadowflash]

11. Yup.

The lesson here is that, if you strike someone with a car, keep going because you never know who is armed.

[tridim]

15. And if your brother gets struck, you get shot for it...

Because guns!!!!11

It's the NRA's wet dream.

[XemaSab]

19. Looks like this is more common than one would think

https://www.google.com/search?q=driver+beaten+after+hitting+child&oq=driver+beaten+a&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.4870j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8

[Jerry442]

10. It is clear the shooter(s) aren't responsible gun owners.

How can we know this? Because they were involved in a shooting where somebody not on the approved victim list ended up being shot (as far as we know).

Now, if we just had a way to identify those irresponsible gun owners before they shoot someone, without inconveniencing those heroic, upright, responsible gun owners who would never use their firearms in a dangerous way.

[840high]

12. Where were the parents of the 2 year old?

[surrealAmerican]

25. Was the 15-year-old brother babysitting?

There aren't enough details yet to make sense of this.

[Buzz Clik]

13. If the driver had been armed this wouldn't have happened. Ditto the toddler and the teen.

The answer to this tragedy is the same as the answer to all needless deaths by firearms: More guns!

[Arugula Latte]

17. Yes. We must destroy the country in order to save it

from the terrible gun shortage we're suffering from.

[romanic]

14. I think there's more to this story here.

Maybe there was heated words exchanged after the hit-run and led to the gunfire.

[Yo_Mama]

22. Given the casualty list, how will we ever find out??

That's not intended to be a smart aleck remark, either. It's kind of a scorched-street story.

[tabasco]

23. Just makin' shit up

for some reason.

[840high]

26. Do you know the full story?

[tabasco]

27. Nope, and not makin' shit up.

Thanks for playing.

[tabasco]

36. Imagine that. Turns out you're wrong.

Just a crazed gun nut assassinating two innocent people.

A toddler that no one was watching ran into the street and was struck and killed. The man whose van hit the boy got out, upset, and tried to help. A teenager from a nearby house also tried to help. Both were suddenly shot on the spot.

The driver, Archie Brown, Jr., was shot in the head and died immediately. Brown, the father of four, was on his way to Home Depot with a friend. A witness from a neighboring home, Barbara Sprewer, estimated he was traveling only 25-30 miles an hour when the toddler darted in front of him. She said: "Nobody was watching the baby."

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/04/14/man-reacts-to-accidental-death-of-toddler-by-shooting-and-killing-two-video/

Maybe you should stop imagining fantasies to warp reality to fit your world view. That's definitive stupidity.

[KansDem]

16. Everyday is "OK Corral Day" in the USA

Or, at least, it becoming that way...

[dolphinsandtuna]

20. crazy, how crazy is that

not only the driver but the brother. God, some people have no brain cells at all, just enough to keep themselves breathing.

[samsingh]

21. notice how silent gun lovers are on threads that show the brutal murder guns are capable of

[ManiacJoe]

24. They are not silent.

The roar of laughter at the comments in this thread is quite loud.

[Skittles]

31. yeah, we KNOW what upsets them what does not

FUCK THEM ALL

[samsingh]

32. innocent death should not lead to roars of laughter. maybe that's the problem.

[ManiacJoe]

35. Rest assured that it is not the innocent death that is being laughed at.

[samsingh]

37. you might as well be laughing at their deaths

[ManiacJoe]

38. Sad that you think so.

[samsingh]

39. i don't support gun related deaths and then laugh at people who try to find solutions

[ManiacJoe]

40. Lucky for both of us that

none of what you describe has happened in this thread. (No support nor solutions.)

[samsingh]

46. you must be new to DU then.

[ManiacJoe]

49. Well, if you think 10 years is new....

I will say that your reading comprehension needs work as none of what you suggest has happened in this thread.

[samsingh]

53. i didn't say it did - funny how you jump to conclusions

and what were you saying about reading comprehension.

I've been here since the site opened.

[ManiacJoe]

54. Your words: "you must be new to DU then"

Yes, you have been here way long enough to know better.


I am done with this subthread. You can have the last word if you want it.

[Skittles]

30. they are COWARDS

ABSOLUTE COWARDS

[pipoman]

28. This sounds like something that would happen in a rough neighborhood...

Sounds like the reaction of a longtime criminal...

[Skittles]

29. thanks a lot you GUN HUMPING PIECES OF SHIT

you won, and THIS IS THE PRICE

[samsingh]

33. and they don't care - they continue with their petty comments and

don't touch my guns regardless of who gets killed brainwashed ideology.

[Darb]

34. MOAR GUNZ!!!!

Where are all the resident gun humpers? You know, the ones who seemingly only post to defend gun ownership of any type or shape or kind. The ones constantly nit picking our vernacular?

Where the fuck are you?

Typical cowardly gun worshippers.

[Darb]

41. What, no snarky gun humper shit?

Where the fuck are you? You know who you are asshats. WTF?

[hack89]

43. I suspect they are sitting back shaking their heads

at the emotional infantile meltdown some are having on this thread and wondering if a rational discussion on gun control is even possible on DU. I imagine that is what they are thinking.

[Oktober]

44. What's to wonder about?

[hack89]

45. True

guns and IP have both reached the point where both sides are talking past each other.

[Darb]

56. As fucking if,

like having a reasonable discussion with a two year old who won't let go of his toy.

Find a mirror and look into it.

[Oktober]

60. Whoa there Ms Cranky Pants...

You can take your post and put it on the pile of 'proof that I'm right'...

Thanks...

[hack89]

62. You just broke my irony meter. nt

[Darb]

55. There you are.

What, were you at an NRA meeting that prohibited you from being first reply with some condescending gun humper cliche'?

How's Ted Nugent?

[hack89]

61. Thanks for reinforcing my point.

I bet you and I agree on most gun control issues - we are more in agreement then disagreement. But we will never discuss common ground and how we can solve gun violence because you would rather fight the cultural war and throw insults instead of engaging in constructive dialog.

[warrant46]

42. For those of you who are from Milwaukee like me

This type of self help "justice" is prevalent in the 53206

almost everyone here has a gun

http://www.city-data.com/zips/53206.html

[ileus]

47. Odd story...who did the shooting? Who was the toddler with?

Who shot the 15yo? was he the caretaker of the baby at the time?

The 15yo was the babies brother and was also shot? One would assume the shooter would be a parent of the child, and wouldn't harm the brother?

[EL34x4]

48. More details here...

Yes, I know it's Fox.

http://fox6now.com/2015/04/14/they-do-not-condone-the-violence-family-of-young-boys-killed-in-crash-shooting-sad-over-loss-of-archie-brown/

Accused shooter, a convicted felon, was the boys' uncle. He is still at large. The 15-year old brother was hit by a stray bullet.

[Archae]

51. Not anymore.

The guy killed himself in Chicago.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141069076

[Skittles]

57. the shooter killed himself

dreadful story

[alphafemale]

59. Yes. Tragic. The shooter may have almost instantly regretted what he did.

But had reacted out of shock and rage and anguish to the accident. A gun was readily available to him and the tragedy compounded.

[ManiacJoe]

50. Shooter commits suicide before cops arrest him.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/suspect-kills-himself-after-double-homicide-that-followed-crash-b99482763z1-300108161.html

15-year-old was the nephew of the shooter, presumably shot by mistake.

[geomon666]

52. .