New Book, ‘Clinton Cash,’ Questions Foreign Donations to Foundation

[bajamary]

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Source: New York Times

Oh gee, this isn't good.

New Book, ‘Clinton Cash,’ Questions Foreign Donations to Foundation

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/20/us/politics/book-questions-clinton-donations.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=second-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


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[leftofcool]

1. Hashed and rehashed!

[QuestionAlways]

18. What exactly does the Clinton foundation do

I though it was a health related charity. How can anybody attack Hillary for being part of a charity.

[Purveyor]

22. We shall soon find out... eom

[Buzz Clik]

2. This will be the first of dozens from the right.

The first casualty will be the truth; good luck finding it.

[arcane1]

8. I wonder who'll be the first group to buy them in bulk to boost the sales.

Those billions in SuperPAC dollars have to go somewhere!

[Brother Buzz]

34. Three of four of those will be published by World Nut Daily

Bank on it. I bet Joseph Farah is pissed because he probably had one in the works on this same angle and got scooped.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

37. News Corp is the parent company of the publisher.

Rupert Murdoch owns News Corp. Of course that isn't dispositive as he "owns everything" but it is disturbing

[Brother Buzz]

40. Understood, but World Nut Daily really, really wants to be the big kid on the block

These 'swiftboat' attack books are Joseph Farah's stock in trade.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

41. Reminds me of my salesman days...

Throw enough shit against the wall and hope some of it sticks...


But they have been throwing shit at the Clintons for twenty five years and all they got was a consensual blow job.

[Brother Buzz]

42. Funny, I was going to mention the shit throwing....

and how Joseph Farah will pump shit books until one sticks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Small correction

Clinton got the consensual blow job. Maybe if his pursuers got one they wouldn't be so unpleasant.


Thank goodness we're in the internet stage or all the trees that would have to die in the service of nothing.

[freshwest]

44. Well, there it is! n/t

[Sancho]

3. Benghazi! Whitewater! Foundation!

[AuntPatsy]

4. It's going to be a loonnngg 18 months...

[NYC_SKP]

5. I guess this is what Rand Paul was referring to over the weekend.

Color me surprised.

[leftofcool]

6. This was the super secret info he had? Someone else's book?

[jalan48]

23. I think it fits his ongoing pattern of stealing ideas from others.

[Mr.Bill]

7. I'm sure none of the Republican

candidates past or present ever had any dealings or business relationships with anyone in foreign countries. Both Bushes and Romney come to mind. And those didn't exactly involve a charitable foundation.

[bigdarryl]

48. Two word: Christ Christie

[cynzke]

50. International Business Hardball.

Have to play it if you want to succeed. It won't be as bad as they try to spin it. Only their right wing base will get into a tizzy over this. Fox must be in an orgasmic state with the impending release of this book. Most voters won't care one way or another. The GOP who screws us DAILY will look ridiculous trying to attack the Clintons while conducting their own sleazy behavior.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. Republicans have such a limited intelligence....

They figure they can use the same talking points they used all through the 90s during their witch hunt of the Clintons.

In this case, it's the classic "unanswered questions" which have been answered repeatedly.

Someone needs to do a poll and find out how many Republicans believe the impeachment was a total success and Clinton was found guilty and forced from office.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. There have been pre-sales of this book on Amazon for weeks...

More post hoc ergo propter hoc logical fallacy bullshit.


Weak sauce,

[DeSwiss]

12. ''The rooster crows immediately before sunrise, therefore the rooster causes the sun to rise.''

The above is a correct example of post hoc ergo propter hoc. Not:

His examples include a free-trade agreement in Colombia that benefited a major foundation donor’s natural resource investments in the South American nation, development projects in the aftermath of the Haitian earthquake in 2010, and more than $1 million in payments to Mr. Clinton by a Canadian bank and major shareholder in the Keystone XL oil pipeline around the time the project was being debated in the State Department.

- That seems a little different than a rooster making the sun come up. Your mileage may vary.......

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. My mileage is just fine. If you think Mr. or Ms. Clinton Broke the law.

Here's the Attorney General's address to report them:

The Honorable Eric Holder
U.S. Department of Justice
950 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20530-0001


It's your duty as a citizen.

[pnwmom]

11. How are they being personally enriched through donations to the Charitable Foundation? n/t

[DeSwiss]

17. Why they're absolutely great for:

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[jwirr]

25. I am not a supporter but I think you have just asked the right question. This is an international

charity and as such should not be expected to be limited in this way. I wonder if any one ever asks the Ford Foundation who they are supported by?

[Iliyah]

13. Oh my gawd, it will be non-stop viral bashing from the right

on anything that is not pertaining to the USA economy, civil rights, voting right healthcare, et al.

[jmowreader]

14. Peter Schweizer's resume isn't good

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schweizer

He is:
President of right-wing think tank Government Accountability Institute

Author of all these books:
Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets, 2013 (ISBN 978-0544103344)

Throw Them All Out: How Politicians and Their Friends Get Rich off Insider Stock Tips, Land Deals, and Cronyism That Would Send the Rest of Us to Prison, 2011 (ISBN 978-0547573144)

Architects of Ruin: How a Gang of Radical Activists and Liberal Politicians Destroyed Trillions of Dollars in Wealth in the Pursuit of Social Justice, 2009 (ISBN 0-061-95334-2)

Makers and Takers: Why conservatives work harder, feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less … and even hug their children more than liberals, 2008 (ISBN 0-385-51350-X)

Do as I Say (Not as I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy, 2005 (ISBN 0-385-51349-6)

The Bushes : portrait of a dynasty, 2004, co-authored with Rochelle Schweizer (ISBN 0-385-49863-2)

Reagan's War: The Epic Story of His Forty Year Struggle and Final Triumph Over Communism, 2002 (ISBN 0-385-50471-3)

Disney the Mouse Betrayed, 1998 (ISBN 0-89526-387-4)

Victory: The Reagan Administration's Secret Strategy That Hastened the Collapse of the Soviet Union, 1994 (ISBN 0-87113-567-1)

Friendly Spies: How America's Allies Are Using Economic Espionage to Steal Our Secrets, 1992 (ISBN 0-87113-497-7)

He has also been hired as a foreign policy advisor to Sarah Palin.

I'm going to Frist the book (evaluate without reading it, like the way Bill Frist diagnosed Terri Schiavo without ever examining her) and proclaim "Clinton Cash" to be a right-wing hatchet job on a reasonably decent person.

[zeemike]

15. None of it will matter to the Hillary supporters.

Because they are committed.
And the GOP will believe anything bad they hear.
The ones that it will effect are the ones in the middle and when the GOP with the help of the media unpack her luggage for her it will indeed look bad.

Jeb will look like a moderate to some of them and the rest probably will not even vote.
Makeing people disgusted with politics is a strategy the GOP can win with.

[Iliyah]

19. It matters as a HRC supporter and who will volunteer

In my personal opinion and seeing how the GOP/RWers/Libertarians operate, it doesn't matter who their final opponent is. If Senator Warren decided to run and won the Democratic primary, all their venom would be focused on her and everything thing from her family past, her birth, and thereon will be brought front and center with non-facts and would be stated as fact by the corporate media, hate radio, and RW social media.

It does not "matter" who it is, the GOP will do their best (and they are good at it) to trash anyone who is not pure as a GOP.

Like Pres O, HRC is not the perfect Liberal candidate. She far from it. But I truly think she will stand with the American people.

[winstars]

24. +1,000,000,000

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. My fervent hope is that the right wing scandal machine ...

My fervent hope is that the right wing scandal machine does the same thing for Hill that it did for Bill:

[unblock]

16. republicans know to use anonymous donations to secret superpacs to avoid such problems.

of course, bill clinton's global initiative foundation doesn't contribute to political campaigns, so accepting foreign money isn't at all a problem....

[whereisjustice]

20. Her posse will be so busy deflecting away the bad shit that has

become a defining element of the Clinton dynasty, that they won't notice the fatigue induced by the general public.

The Clintons are hell bent on setting the Democratic Party back another 10 years or so. Again.

And then they wonder why a handful of us don't want to get onboard with this shit.

Along with, you know, stupid right wing smears like saying she continues to support her decision on the Iraq war. And drones. And citizen surveillance, etc.

All true, of course, but an inconvenient smear when brought up for an examination of qualifications.

The conservatives in the Dem Party are going to drag us all down the shit hole with Clinton.

Say goodbye to progress and reform, it's the Clinton show.

History repeats itself.


Thanks to the grammar police who can't seen to tolerate dissent about Clinton, I made some corrections and added one clarification - the word "Again".

[840high]

26. +1

[truthisfreedom]

30. You mean Clintons. Using an apostrophe to indicate the plural form on a proper noun

shows a lack of grammatical skills.

Clinton is my candidate and I'm immediately suspicious of anyone on DU who attacks or denigrates our most likely winner.

This board really needs to be cleaned up. It's full of those who want to instill doubt in our party's best hope.

[whereisjustice]

31. lol - you mean no matter how unscrupulous the candidate's behavior, we should ditch the primary

and just appoint her the nominee? As for the stern warning on grammar, your concern is noted.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

32. Don't know about the grammar but the right has been hounding Bill Clinton for twenty five years...

Don't know about the grammar but the right has been hounding Bill Clinton for twenty five years and he remains America's most popular living president, ergo:






God or whomever willing, they will do the same for Ms. Clinton

[pnwmom]

36. Please explain how donations to a licensed, regulated, Charitable Foundation

are enriching the Clinton's personal bank accounts.

The history that I see repeating itself is people attempting to smear the Clintons.

[candelista]

27. Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk is the largest individual contributor to the Clinton Foundation

Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, 54, has courted the Clintons for at least nine years – in the United States, the Alps and Ukraine.

Earlier this year, he was confirmed as the largest individual contributor to the Clinton Foundation, whose aims include the creation of “economic opportunity and growth”. He also has links to the Tony Blair Foundation and represented its biggest single donor in 2013.

The fourth richest man in Ukraine, Pinchuk owns Interpipe Group, a Cyprus-incorporated manufacturer of seamless pipes used in oil and gas sectors.

Newsweek has seen declarations and documents from Ukraine that show a series of shipments from Interpipe to Iran in 2011 and 2012, including railway parts and products commonly used in the oil and gas sectors.

Among a number of high-value invoices for products related to rail or oil and gas, one shipment for $1.8m (1.7m) in May 2012 was for “seamless hot-worked steel pipes for pipelines” and destined for a city near the Caspian Sea.

Both the rail and oil and gas sectors are sanctioned by the US, which specifically prohibits any single invoice to the Iranian petrochemical industry worth more than $1m.

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/hillary-clinton-runs-white-house-and-row-over-ukrainian-benefactors-trade-322253.html

[pnwmom]

38. That would matter if the money were going to Clintons personally -- instead of to the licensed, regulated

Charitable Foundation.

[reddread]

28. shocked i tell you

I expect the Clinton machinery to cop a few licks from the Rove oeuvre.
Nonsensical scandals like Benghazi and the email kerfluffle strike me as
weak tea distractions, substitutes for scrutiny and great in between content for
advertising purposes. Even possibly suitable for inoculating the public with a certain
necessary indifference. If the real dirt behind any of these politicians at the top of the
food chain came to light, we wouldnt hear about domestically.

Why anyone follows a lying media escapes the fuck out of me.
HEY, did you hear what Rush said to Ann Coulter, and what she said then?
Im so angry I cant stop watching or start thinking.
darn those conservatives!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. I like the cut of your jib, sir or madame.

Kudos

[NBachers]

39. From the Jerome Corsi / Lucianne Goldberg school of journalism

[freshwest]

46. Oh, no. World Nut Daily is a BFD. Look at their regular commentator list:

http://www.wnd.com/commentators/

A veritable glittering galaxy of batshit RWNJs.



I sooo appreciate RW smear jobs being posted here at DU, don't you? C'mon now, don't you?

[quadrature]

45. is the Obama Foundation, going to do the same? ...nt

[Bigredhunk]

47. Oh please!

Just look at all the bullshit conservative books re: Hill & Bill on Amazon when you type "Hillary Clinton" under the book search.

Half of them are by these wingnuts with their imaginary conspiracies like Whitewater, Travelgate, etc... Peter Schweitzer, Peggy Noonan, Barbar Olsen, Edward Klein, Bob Thiel and so on. Holy shit are there going to be a lot of bullshit anti-Clinton books and stories out over the next couple of years! Of course they'll all just be preaching to the knuckle-dragging Faux watchers and will all end up in the bargain section for $5 after the bulk sales dry up.

[eringer]

49. Wow! 186 Pages! My Son Reads Comic Books Longer Than That!

Being a front-runner this early is not without its perils. Hillary will do fine, but its tough road.

I would prefer another candidate to Hillary but only because I believe that he would be a great President as well and is "baggage-free". His name is Martin O'Malley. Liberal Irish Catholic. Former Governor of Maryland and Mayor of Baltimore. Very progressive and smart as heck. Look at this clip when he dismantles VA Govenor Bob Mcdonnell on Meet the Press in 2012. Amazing how he makes it look so effortless.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/meet-the-press/48716788#48716788

[DonViejo]

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