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Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:03 PM Apr 2015

Judge Rules MTA Must Run ‘Killing Jews Is Worship’ Ad on Buses, Subways

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Source: Mediaite.com

A New York judge ruled today that the Metropolitan Transit Authority — a.k.a. NYC’s public transit — must run a pro-Israel group’s controversial ads, widely considered to be anti-Jihad, that could allegedly incite violence against Jewish people.

According to the New York Times, Judge John G. Koeltl said that the ad, commissioned by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, was protected speech and could therefore run on MTA property (as long as the MTA does not appeal). “While the court is sensitive to the M.T.A.’s security concerns, the defendants have not presented any objective evidence that the ‘Killing Jews advertisement’ would be likely to incite imminent violence,” he wrote.



“The defendants underestimate the tolerant quality of New Yorkers, and overestimate the potential impact of these fleeting advertisements,” he added.

Ah, right. The ads in question, which will be displayed on buses and in subway stops, will look like this:



Ad saying 'Killing Jews is worship' will not be banned from New York buses: http://t.co/o7rVOxcuOc pic.twitter.com/GJ067FZBls

— Christian Today (@ChristianToday) April 22, 2015

Read more: http://www.mediaite.com/online/judge-rules-mta-must-run-killing-jews-is-worship-ad-on-buses-subways/



First Amendment absurdity. Such incendiary language would NEVER be allowed in French public spaces.

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Judge Rules MTA Must Run ‘Killing Jews Is Worship’ Ad on Buses, Subways (Original Post) Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 OP
The absurdity is not the First Amendment jberryhill Apr 2015 #1
Or, give equal billing to ISIS...recruiting for Jihad, for example. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
"They need the revenue" jberryhill Apr 2015 #7
Which is what makes America superior to France Telcontar Apr 2015 #3
Well, aren't we feeling our patriotic oats today? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #5
Creating an even more charged and tense public square. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #6
Locking... DonViejo Apr 2015 #8
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. The absurdity is not the First Amendment
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:14 PM
Apr 2015

The absurdity is debasing these public resources for selling advertising space in the first place.

If the government is going to say "pay us to put your message here", then the government cannot make choices between what messages they will or will not put there.

So, what happens, as with lotteries and other government funding gimmicks, is that the public transit system takes in revenue for running ads, and then their subsidy is cut by as much as they take in.

The simple solution is to stop running advertisements on public property. Otherwise, there is no way around this sort of thing.
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
2. Or, give equal billing to ISIS...recruiting for Jihad, for example.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:27 PM
Apr 2015

'The simple solution is to stop running advertisements on public property.'

They need the revenue.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
7. "They need the revenue"
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:46 PM
Apr 2015

No they do not "need the revenue". That is bullshit. They want the revenue, and the people of New York lack the political will to adequately subsidize public transportation. The "need" is entirely artificial.

In the city of New York, small condominiums go for millions of dollars, and yet there is no money to be found there? Nonsense.

You do not seem to understand what I said about how these things work. It is the same thing that happens with lotteries. They are sold to the states as "free money" and earmarked for things like "education" or "senior services". Then, the general appropriations for those things are cut by the amount of revenue generated by the lottery, at which point they can say "Oh, but we 'need' the revenue."

Solicitation for criminal acts - your examples, are themselves illegal acts.

So, kindly provide the list of things the government should allow people to say and not say, so that we might keep a handy list of them for the "MTA Office Of What People Are Allowed To Say."

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
3. Which is what makes America superior to France
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:29 PM
Apr 2015
 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
4. Well, aren't we feeling our patriotic oats today?
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:31 PM
Apr 2015

'Murca!!!!!!!!! Fuck, yeah.......

Response to Surya Gayatri (Original post)

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
6. Creating an even more charged and tense public square.
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:37 PM
Apr 2015

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
8. Locking...
Wed Apr 22, 2015, 01:55 PM
Apr 2015

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