Atlanta officers shoot black woman in patrol car in gunfight: police

[Novara]

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Atlanta police shot and killed a handcuffed black woman on Thursday after she fired on two officers from inside a patrol car, the city's police department said.

The woman had been arrested and was in the back of the vehicle in downtown Atlanta around 5 p.m. local time, Atlanta Police Sergeant Gregory Lyon said in an email.

She then fired on the officers, who were also black, sitting in the front of the car, Lyon said. The officers returned fire. The woman was taken to a local hospital where she later died, he said.

The shooting comes as protests reignite in cities around the United States over police use of lethal force against minorities, especially of unarmed black men.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/01/us-usa-georgia-police-idUSKBN0NM32V20150501?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

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Oh come on! Handcuffed? Where'd she get the gun?

They're not even trying to lie plausibly anymore.

[madaboutharry]

1. This does not make sense.

How could she have had access to a gun?

[Hoppy]

12. I guess you haven't seen the new 3D printers where you can make a plastic gun.

The 3d guns can get past airport screeners. So don't blame the cops. There may have been a printer in the back seat of the cruiser.

Like everyone else, cops deserve to be considered not guilty until the prosecutors finish finding no cause for action.

[beevul]

31. This is nonsense.

"The 3d guns can get past airport screeners."

No, they really can't.


Someones been pulling your leg.

[rock]

36. I strongly suspect Hoppy is being sarcastic

Even though he forgot the SARCASM tag.

[Hoppy]

41. If you're female and cute, you can pull my leg.

[chillfactor]

2. because they know that lying...

will give them the "go home" free card...

[Hoyt]

3. Watched on news. It happened right in front of police precinct.

I don't get the same feeling of police brutality, but certainly bad police work. I think there were a lot of witnesses, and probably some cameras. We'll see.

[xfundy]

4. Her hands were behind her back

but she could still aim a gun, which she would have been patted down to find.

[jschurchin]

5. Wait, wait, wait. Are you fucking kidding me.

Both the officers should be fired, for placing a person into a car without searching her. Or did they search her and not find the weapon? Either way, if they are that incompetent they need too get back to their life's work flipping burgers, because being a cop is not it.
Truly unbelievable!!!

[leveymg]

26. This one^^^^

[uppityperson]

27. ++++++

[underpants]

32. Explanation (?) they were waiting on a female officer to search her ???

I am just asking

[jschurchin]

35. How about we drop the political correct bullshit and search her ass.

There are more than a few you tube video's of women searching men. I have no issue with it, or vice versa. She's searching for a weapon, not if I have a dick. He's searching her for a weapon, not if she has a vagina.

[Calista241]

39. Until you get crazy perv man who gets his jollies off being "extra thorough"

Have same sex searches is a prudent policy the VAST majority of the time.

[underpants]

40. Exactly. It's a liability problem.

The accusation alone costs PD's lots of money in investigations and attorney costs.

A lot of businesses have even stopped drug testing because having someone, same sex obviously, watching someone else go to the bathroom is too much risk to take on.

[Novara]

6. Yeah, I don't think cops make a habit of putting armed people in the back of cruisers

Reminds me of the guy who supposedly shot himself while handcuffed in the back of a cop car. I didn't buy their explanation there either.

[blackspade]

7. Here we go again.....

It sounds very like that case.
Where the handcuffed man committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest.

This is about as plausible.

[Enthusiast]

8. Same thing came to my mind. The ridiculous alleged suicide while being handcuffed.

We are supposed to accept any lame convoluted explanation these days. Not buying it.

[SCVDem]

9. Do we have to guess

where the gun was hidden?

EEWWWW!

[brush]

10. Still implausible — how would she access it with hands cuffed behind her back? nt

[SunSeeker]

11. No way could she reach up any orifice if her hands were handcuffed behind her back.

This. Is beyond stupid. It's murder.

[ellenrr]

13. they NEVER put a suspect in the cop car without

searching for a gun.

(they searched me before they put me in the car. I was searched by male officers, and learned later I could have sued them, cuz they were supposed to have a female officer do it.)

[happyslug]

15. You MUST be searched by someone of your own sex

Except under extraordinary conditions (like the nearest female is DAYS away), males should NEVER search a female. A male can search her purse, her coat or jacket once she had removed it from her body, he may do a visual search, but no touching. It is a big NO NO.

[underpants]

33. I asked if that was a possible explanation above

Of course we don't know what their specific policy and procedure is but I find it surprising that they put her in the car.

[ellenrr]

14. i wonder if journalists have to get high to report these things with a straight face. ...nt

[Dont call me Shirley]

16. Woman...

[happyslug]

17. Bra Gun???

When I first read this story, that is what came to mind, the infamous "Bra Gun", a gun built into the bra of a woman. First used in a 1960s era movie that I can not remember the name of (and probably best forgotten) but is popular among shooting games.

On the other hand, I suspect the woman was handcuffed with her hands to her back. Women have something call "Curves" which make a lot of women disliking packing a pistol on their side like a man, instead a lot of woman, who pack a pistol, carry them in the waist band in the rear. This officer may have just handcuffed so her hands were right by her pistol, she pulled it and opened fire. Shooting instead of aiming for the pistol was in her hands, but her hands were still handcuffed together at her back.

Photo of a rear holster:



While looking for a photo of the above I ran across a photo of the infamous bra gun of the 1960s (Through this is from was the post 2000 Austin Powers movie)

[blackspade]

18. That is a stretch.

[d_legendary1]

21. The Bra or the gun?

[blackspade]

29. Yes

[d_legendary1]

19. From the Atlanta Journal

"It all began when a woman who police believed had stolen a car was put into the back of a patrol car, Atlanta police said Thursday night. But somehow, and it wasn’t known how, the woman had a gun and fired shots at two officers, Major Darin Schierbaum said. Officers returned fire, striking the woman at least twice, Schierbaum said. No officers were injured."

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/shots-fired-in-downtown-atlanta/nk6jp/


Sounds like bullshit to me.

[Novara]

20. Just think about how stupid it would be - even supposing she somehow had a gun....

....how very stupid it would be to open fire on cops once you're in the back of a patrol car. You know you're at a tactical disadvantage and that they'll kill you. Yeah, people are fucking stupid, but are they THAT stupid? I'm not buying it.

[d_legendary1]

28. Neither am I

But some folks will believe anything the police tell them.

[malthaussen]

22. They want us to channel Tertullian ...

Credo quia impossibile est.

-- Mal

[Fred Sanders]

23. So gunfights are still news in a nation with more guns than people? How is this strange at all?

[GoneFishin]

24. Bullshit.

[BlueJazz]

25. Maybe they put her in the seat backwards.

[jwirr]

30. Either this is a lie or these are the worst police officers in the world as far as training is

concerned.

[SwankyXomb]

34. It could be both

Kops aren't selected for their intelligence these days, just their willingness to enforce the edicts of the 0.01%.

[samsingh]

37. i don't believe anything the police say anymore.

[olddots]

38. we make jokes about this stuff

because it happens so much lately that all we can do is try to humor ourselves into not realizing how serious things are .

I used to believe that only law enforcement should have guns but now things have turned around .

[RebelOne]

42. She slipped out of the handcuffs and has done it before in a past arrest.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/chief-woman-police-shootout-slipped-out-handcuffs/nk7LH/

I spoke to someone who has been arrested before and she said it is easy for a woman with small hands to slip the cuffs.

[lostnfound]

43. Atlanta journal article a bit more plausible

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/woman-killed-in-shootout-with-atlanta-police-ident/nk65N/

They screwed up by not searching her but it sounds somewhat believable. Compared to so many other murders out there.. On the other hand, she was being arrested for selling marijuana.

[jmowreader]

44. That was an earlier bust

This time she was picked up on suspicion of auto theft.