Freddie Gray's death ruled a homicide
Source: AP
BALTIMORE -- Baltimore's top prosecutor announced criminal charges Friday against all six officers suspended after a man suffered a fatal spinal injury in police custody, saying "no one is above the law."
"Mr. Gray's death was a homicide," State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby declared. His arrest was illegal and his treatment in custody amounted to murder and manslaughter, she said.
The announcement came after nearly two weeks of growing anger over Freddie Gray's death, and only hours after State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby received the results of a police investigation.
Mosby announced the stiffest charge -- second-degree "depraved heart" murder -- against the driver of the police van. Other officers face charges of involuntary manslaughter, assault and illegal arrest.
Read more: http://abc7news.com/news/freddie-grays-death-ruled-a-homicide/690829/
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/594152984927444992
https://twitter.com/AFP/status/594154468083630080
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,157 posts)There's no justifiable homicide when the victim is chained up in the back of a police van. No self-defense or defense of others.
Charge their asses. Either manslaughter or 2nd Degree murder.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)liberal from boston
(856 posts)The State Attorney stated that Warrants were issued for their arrests. So relieved that these police officers will be held accountable.
asharpwone
(27 posts)As per the news conference.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)PADemD
(4,482 posts)me b zola
(19,053 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)that the legal definition of 'depraved heart' is something like, 'a callous disregard for life'.
christx30
(6,241 posts)Too often, cops will pull the "nickle ride" BS to administer extra judicial punishment to people they feel deserve it.
Looks like this time it blew up in their faces. Hopefully an example can be made of these cops and encourage others to just do their jobs without getting "creative".
When someone is in your custody, with their hands bound, their safety is 100% your responsibility. That's why you bind their hands, to force them to comply. For your safety, and theirs.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)no bolts should protrude into the compartment they should be flat surfaced (carriage) bolts.
Initech
(100,054 posts)malthaussen
(17,183 posts)Some interesting things going on in the city administration, methinks.
-- Mal
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)the old boy's network.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)now let's see where this leads....anyone's guess.....
calimary
(81,179 posts)in her legal crosshairs. I wouldn't want her prosecuting a case against me.
Wow - finally charges against the police perpetrators. LOTS of charges against each of the six. How 'bout that. I'm no legal expert but it sounds like she's throwing the book at 'em!
Judi Lynn
(160,505 posts)and it was riveting hearing her condemning the police who had attempted to leak material out before her office was ready to release information.
Sophiegirl
(2,338 posts)She has a great future ahead of her.
Judi Lynn
(160,505 posts)Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Gemini Cat
(2,820 posts)lamp_shade
(14,824 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,505 posts)She mentioned it at least twice, and said it was NOT a "switchblade."
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)From that place that shall not be named:
so a black mayor, a black police chief, and now a black atty, all flaming libs, are now starting a trial as the evidence unravels before them. Life in a liberal city: Soviet style show trials. Let the jury tampering begin.
Poor knuckledraggers. Want to kill with impugnity, but the law keeps getting in the way.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,157 posts)Yep.... the fact that so many freepers the other day were jumping all over the story that he broke his own neck and crushed his own windpipe does not speak well for us.
Chortle.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)... and not just there.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I found an article that gave the names of the six police officers, but I've not seen anything that indicates whether they are all white. One is female.
I'm not disputing your info; just wondering where I missed the information.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)I think he was the van driver.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Van driver charged with murder is black.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/6-baltimore-police-charged-in-freddie-gray-death-released-on-bail-1.3057248
7962
(11,841 posts)Amishman
(5,554 posts)Otherwise they were rewarded with a lengthy paid vacation.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)For everyone else out there preyed upon by cops that are in action indistinguishable from the Klan.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)What is the difference between murder and heart murder?
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)Moses and King David were technically murderers, and I'm afraid David's heart was temporarily depraved by an adulterous lust, when he arranged for Uriah the Hittite to be killed in battle, but such depravity on his part was so uncharacteristic of him that God described him as a man after his own heart.
Nevertheless, it was particularly sad, because though a heathen Hittite, Uriah had the noblest of characters, refusingto go in his house to sleep with his wife, while his fellow soldiers were in the thick of battle, preferring to doss down by the gate of his house. Just the sort of thing that David might normally have done.
There is something of a parallel, when David and some of his champions are holed up in the cave of Odollam, overlooking Bethlehem. One of them said to the others, 'How's about we go down and get some of that water from the well at Bethlehem, the Old Man raves about so much? After David had been presented it, and probably after his champions had kipped down for the night, David offered it up to God, saying he couldn't drink it, since the lads had risked their lives to get it.
The heart has long been held to be the the seat of the emotions, and for that matter, of the will/volition. Also, wisdom. The human soul comprises the memory, the will, and the understanding. Mankind is much wiser than the intelligentsia in spiritual matters, matters of the greatest importance. Indeed for the intelligence of the worldly-wise to thrive, it must be directed to the common good, not mere self -aggrandisement. Without it, even common sense is lacking.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)herding cats
(19,558 posts)"Intent-to-kill murder"
"Grievous-bodily-harm murder" - Killing someone in an attack intended to cause them grievous bodily harm. For example, if a person fatally stabbed someone, even if she only intended to wound her victim, she could still be executed.
"Felony-murder" - Killing someone while in the process of committing a felony. Note that at common law, there were few felonies, and all carried the death penalty. For example, at common law, robbery was a felony. So if a robber accidentally killed someone during a robbery, the robber could be executed.
"Depraved heart murder" - Killing someone in a way that demonstrates a callous disregard for the value of human life. For example, if a person intentionally fires a gun into a crowded room, and someone dies, the person could be convicted of depraved heart murder.
These definitions are valuable because they inform subsequent reforms of American murder law.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/murder
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)herding cats
(19,558 posts)I think it could have been charged as grievous-bodily-harm murder, but I can see how depraved heart murder might be easier to get a conviction on.
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)of the driving force behind what black, American males have been suffering at the hands of their public servants.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)underpants
(182,720 posts)Lucky them
ananda
(28,854 posts)Also, some of the charges are interesting.
I didn't know what depraved heart murder was till today.
Sounds like a good call.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)They took that mans life.
Fuck the police.
AuntPatsy
(9,904 posts)mopinko
(70,067 posts)i havent the slightest doubt that peaceful protests would not have brought this result.
Hekate
(90,616 posts)KnR
NBachers
(17,096 posts)"Warrants have been issued for their arrest."
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)but I'm worried about them being overcharged. The cops didn't MEAN to kill him. So it's going to be difficult to prove intent. I would have gone for manslaughter, with depraved indifference under color of law. That'd put them away for a while, and be easier to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)All the officers could reasonable have known that an already injured prisoner (legs clearly injured in video) in their care was likely to die if left unbuckled in the back of that van. And, as soon as that female police officer found him face down, unresponsive and still unbuckled, all reasonable doubt that he already had, or would soon likely receive, life threatening injuries if he continued to be left in that van went out the window
christx30
(6,241 posts)I hope this is handled carefully, and all the facts come out. But if things are even half as bad for the cops as they look now, they should be convicted.
ariesgem
(1,634 posts)This is HOW to do it.
cascadiance
(19,537 posts)They should be included in the charges in being complicit in trying to cover up this homicide and be charged with murder themselves. Maybe if that were to happen we'd get rid of this modern day American Gestapo tactic if they're afraid of being charged with the same crimes of the cops they are trying to cover for!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026600465
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)Can anyone confirm?
BALTIMORE The highest-ranking Baltimore police officer in the arrest that led to Freddie Gray's death was hospitalized in April 2012 over mental health concerns for an unknown duration and had his guns confiscated by local sheriff's deputies, according to records from the sheriff's office and court obtained by The Associated Press.
Here's the link:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/30/police-officer-in-freddie-gray-arrest-once-hospitalized-over-mental-health/
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)K&R!
Butterbean
(1,014 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)Or do they have the option to convict on a lesser charge such as manslaughter?
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I wouldn't want to be Mosby right now.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)headed. The ambulance driver got the toughest charge?????? Yeah, sure. He is the key to finding out the truth if there is more to this story than what we now know.
This is, I believe, a serious prosecution.
I am not saying that charges will be upgraded or that there is more to the story than the prosecutor stated in the charges. But . . . . . . if there is, I think this prosecutor may well find it.
Though it's sad were "celebrating", Gray should not have died in the first place. He had a rap sheet and should have been tried by the law instead of it's enforcement carrying out a death sentence. That is not the job of an LEO! I hope the charges lead to sweeping reform in law enforcement; you are to keep the peace and arrest threats to society, not prey on innocents or carry out the death penalty.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)that's still doesn't give the cops probable cause to do anything to him. He was not doing anything wrong. Check your bias at the door.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Grays' past dealings with the law have absolutely no bearing on his manslaughter while in police custody...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)CullenBohannon
(64 posts)Though it might be easier to prove a fed civil rights violation.