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DeathToTheOil

(1,124 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:03 PM Dec 2011

Canada quietly shipping bomb-grade uranium to U.S.

Weapons-grade uranium is quietly being transported within Canada, and into the United States, in shipments the country's nuclear watchdog wants to keep cloaked in secrecy.

A confidential federal memo obtained through the Access to Information Act says at least one payload of spent, U.S.-origin highly enriched uranium fuel has already been moved stateside under a new Canada-U.S. deal.

The shipments stem from the highly publicized agreement signed last year by Prime Minister Stephen Harper and U.S. President Barack Obama, amid fears that nuclear-bomb-making material could fall into the hands of terrorists.

The Canadian stash gradually being shipped from Chalk River, Ont., contains hundreds of kilograms of highly enriched uranium -- large enough to make several Hiroshima-sized nuclear bombs.

But even as the radioactive freight travels toward the U.S. border, the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has no plans to hold public hearings or disclose which communities lie along the delivery route.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/12/27/pol-canada-shipping-bomb-grade-uranium.html



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Canada quietly shipping bomb-grade uranium to U.S. (Original Post) DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 OP
Fortunately, weapons grade uranium is pretty harmless outside a weapon. TheWraith Dec 2011 #1
Beginning of 4th paragraph: DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #2
Any decent size Hospital is receiving radioactive freight ... BOHICA12 Dec 2011 #3
It's tracer materials, like technetium-99m for MRIs and other tests. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #20
Why would it be? TheWraith Dec 2011 #4
I'm not being argumentative DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #5
I associate it with bananas. boppers Dec 2011 #14
I have to concur. nt MADem Dec 2011 #25
Does this mean Iran would be justified in attacking Canada? Hugabear Dec 2011 #6
Depends on Canada's ambitions towards ethnic cleansing genocide vminfla Dec 2011 #7
They already tried it once. boppers Dec 2011 #15
Beats me, Maybe Iran should start flying drones over U.S....NT Devil_Fish Dec 2011 #9
Did you expect them to do this, um, loudly? Taverner Dec 2011 #8
Like we need it. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #10
We don't - this is a security measure hack89 Dec 2011 #18
"Weapons-grade uranium is quietly being transported..." unkachuck Dec 2011 #11
That's wonderful news slackmaster Dec 2011 #12
So? McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #13
This is spent reactor fuel that contains enriched Uranium. formercia Dec 2011 #16
This thread is almost as good JTFrog Dec 2011 #17
He's a nuclear scientist, too??? DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #19
No, I just read the thread. formercia Dec 2011 #22
Sno' nuff, ex-spook DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #24
THAT'S the big deal. Many of those pools are full. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #21
Depending on the purity it could be used for Naval Nuclear propulsion. Sirveri Dec 2011 #23

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
1. Fortunately, weapons grade uranium is pretty harmless outside a weapon.
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:15 PM
Dec 2011

Unlike, say, plutonium, uranium isn't a very large producer of neutron flux (and therefore secondary activation in surrounding materials).

Can't say I'm really overly shocked though that Canada had weapons grade HEU sitting around. File them along with Japan under countries proudly claiming to be non-nuclear while also being able to assemble a bomb in about as much time as it takes to pick up a pizza.

 

DeathToTheOil

(1,124 posts)
2. Beginning of 4th paragraph:
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:20 PM
Dec 2011

"But even as the radioactive freight travels toward the U.S. border..."

Isn't that just as bad?

 

BOHICA12

(471 posts)
3. Any decent size Hospital is receiving radioactive freight ...
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:29 PM
Dec 2011

the genie is out of the bottle, so us not in the business have to hope those in the business know what they are doing. Best not to ponder too much or the head explodes.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
20. It's tracer materials, like technetium-99m for MRIs and other tests.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 10:40 AM
Dec 2011

The idea of getting injected with radioactive shit that has a half-life never really thrilled me, but it does light up the images for the techs.

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
4. Why would it be?
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:30 PM
Dec 2011

The entire point is it's being taken somewhere that it can be, at the very least, reliably secured. If not downmixed into reactor fuel--that's what we've been doing with the weapons grade material freed up from decommissioned US and Russian nuclear weapons, remixing it for use in power plants.

Either way, I'm infinitely happier with the stuff being somewhere safe.

 

DeathToTheOil

(1,124 posts)
5. I'm not being argumentative
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:35 PM
Dec 2011

It's just that, as a child of the Cold War, I associate radioactivity with

 

vminfla

(1,367 posts)
7. Depends on Canada's ambitions towards ethnic cleansing genocide
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 07:32 PM
Dec 2011

Has Canada threatened to annihilate any of its neighbors?

hack89

(39,181 posts)
18. We don't - this is a security measure
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 10:25 AM
Dec 2011

to consolidate as much as possible in fewer, more secure locations.

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
11. "Weapons-grade uranium is quietly being transported..."
Tue Dec 27, 2011, 10:56 PM
Dec 2011

....whether it's North Korea, Iran, Pakistan, United States or a multitude of other countries, the desire for nuclear weapons is growing....they haven't found practical use on the battlefield (yet) but everyone knows, nothing but nothing deters like a nuclear bomb....

....the main difference in our action concerning Iraq and North Korea is nuclear....we've placed an extreme premium on having nuclear weapons for countries that rub us the wrong way....

....ssshhhh...."Weapons-grade uranium is quietly being transported..."

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
12. That's wonderful news
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 12:21 AM
Dec 2011

We certainly can't trust the Great White North to respect our national security.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
16. This is spent reactor fuel that contains enriched Uranium.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 07:51 AM
Dec 2011

It would be quite the chore to extract enough fissile material to make a weapon.

I don't see what the big deal is. There are pools of spent fuel all over the US.

 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
21. THAT'S the big deal. Many of those pools are full.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 10:42 AM
Dec 2011

Nobody really knows what to do with the stuff in the pools as it is. They want to bury it underground, but transporting it is a major risk.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
23. Depending on the purity it could be used for Naval Nuclear propulsion.
Wed Dec 28, 2011, 11:36 AM
Dec 2011

Even if not pure enough they could have out sourced the initial enrichment and are finishing up the remaining out at Oak Ridge.

Considering that we're still building nuclear powered ships and refueling our nuclear powered carrier fleet, that's probably what it's for.

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