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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:38 PM May 2015

18-cent spike in L.A. drives gas prices over $4 a gallon

Source: Los Angeles Times

For the first time in nearly a year, Los Angeles motorists on average are now shelling out more than $4 for a gallon of gas. The average for regular has shot up 18 cents in the last week, a surge analysts attribute to a series of problems at the state’s refineries.

Following a February explosion, production still hasn’t returned to normal at Exxon Mobil Corp.'s Torrance refinery, said Allison Mac, an analyst with price tracking website GasBuddy. And in recent weeks, other refineries have trimmed output for planned and unplanned maintenance, she said.

Experts say California drivers are highly susceptible to such disruptions because the state is a relative island when it comes to gasoline production. California's special cleaner-burning blend is expensive for outsiders to make and deliver, causing most production to occur within the state.

And the state’s refineries often produce gasoline at near capacity, leaving little margin for supply disruptions.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-gas-prices-20150515-story.html

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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
1. It's gone from 2.75 to 3.55 in a few weeks where I live in Northern California.
Fri May 15, 2015, 12:47 PM
May 2015

Nobody bats an eye. No public uproar. Hardly a mention.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
3. If these price spikes are related to "supply"
Fri May 15, 2015, 01:30 PM
May 2015

it must mean that with the bidding going on over the shrinking "pool" of gasoline, there must be at least a few stations that can't get any fuel at all. Anyone heard of any stations not having gas cause they couldn't afford to get in on the bidding???

This is contrived bullshit from the Corporations that are helping to write the TPP that our esteemed president says is gonna be a real boon to U.S. citizens.

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
14. It is an island.
Fri May 15, 2015, 08:16 PM
May 2015

California is a “fuel island” and has no pipelines linking it to petroleum or crude oil supplies, but instead must import an increasing share of fuel from shrinking domestic and distant international sources. California has regulations that require special blends of gasoline that no other state requires.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
17. 40 million customers is a lot
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:08 PM
May 2015

It strikes me as a market failure, that a market that size can't be reliably supplied from within. It is bigger than most countries.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
21. There should be enough plants to reliably supply a market of that size
Thu May 21, 2015, 06:45 PM
May 2015

As long as we are using petroleum as a society. With time, we have to convert to renewables, but that is a separate issue.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
7. The Memorial day price hike
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:05 PM
May 2015

Happens every year no matter what. Prices alway ago up right before everyone hits the road on Memorial day, then aging before the 4th of July, and again before Labor day. Not really sure how they can justify this crap, but it happens. We still have a huge supply glut of oil. Speculators are still manipulating prices higher for oil, and even though oil is about half the price it was a year ago, somehow they can find a way to rip off the public by raising prices at the pump.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
19. Because they have to convert from the cheaper
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:54 PM
May 2015

winter blend to the more expensive, purer summer blend. Winter blend contains butane, which is cheaper to make.

"The difference between summer- and winter-blend gasoline involves the Reid Vapor Pressure (RVP) of the fuel. RVP is a measure of how easily the fuel evaporates at a given temperature. The more volatile a gasoline (higher RVP), the easier it evaporates.

Winter-blend fuel has a higher RVP because the fuel must be able to evaporate at low temperatures for the engine to operate properly, especially when the engine is cold. If the RVP is too low on a frigid day, the vehicle will be hard to start and once started, will run rough.

Summer-blend gasoline has a lower RVP to prevent excessive evaporation when outside temperatures rise. Reducing the volatility of summer gas decreases emissions that can contribute to unhealthy ozone and smog levels. A lower RVP also helps prevent drivability problems such as vapor lock on hot days, especially in older vehicles."


more info: http://newsroom.aaa.com/2013/06/what-is-the-difference-between-summer-and-winter-blend-gasoline/

And since california's fuel requirements are different from other states, it can only be made in certain plants. Less processing capacity. And when equipment breaks down, accidents happen, that further reduces capacity.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
8. Funny I was in Maui earlier this week paid $3.07 per gallon at Costco
Fri May 15, 2015, 02:30 PM
May 2015

This is outright gouging going on by the oil companies in California, trying to hep their republican politicians take over the state. I can see the ads the rethugs blaming democrats for pollution free fuel standards we have in the state.

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
9. Has gone up to 3.39 in N. NV
Fri May 15, 2015, 04:47 PM
May 2015

Where are the politicians speaking out ---- never mind we know in the pockets of whomever is making big profits.

Why is it these refineries have so many fires - any other industry and they would be out of business, but hey isn't it convenient when they have to close a refinery here or there to clean or because of a fire?

As for the excuse about CA's blend that is 24K bs.

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