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PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:12 AM May 2015

US special forces kill Isis commander and capture wife in Syria raid

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Source: The Guardian

White House says Abu Sayyaf killed and wife Umm Sayyaf captured
Defense secretary Carter calls operation a ‘significant blow to Isis’

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/16/us-special-forces-kill-isis-commander-wife-syria

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US special forces kill Isis commander and capture wife in Syria raid (Original Post) PumpkinAle May 2015 OP
The "top" commander meme. I'm sure ISIS is writing their statement of surrender ... whereisjustice May 2015 #1
+10000 onecaliberal May 2015 #2
...^ that 840high May 2015 #4
Have you submitted a course of action to the WH that better deals with ISIS? blm May 2015 #5
The Kingpin Strategy: Assassination as US Policy and How It Failed, From 1990-2015 bemildred May 2015 #3
Locking as a duplicate topic OKNancy May 2015 #6

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
1. The "top" commander meme. I'm sure ISIS is writing their statement of surrender ...
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:21 AM
May 2015

I guess if the White House didn't feed us these carefully produced scripts every now and then, we'd lose interest and spend money on something else, like jobs, health care, etc.

onecaliberal

(32,090 posts)
2. +10000
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:22 AM
May 2015
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
4. ...^ that
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
May 2015

blm

(112,749 posts)
5. Have you submitted a course of action to the WH that better deals with ISIS?
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
May 2015

I'd be anxious to hear it.

Personally, I always thought the terror issue post 9-11 attack SHOULD be one of law enforcement with backup from specially trained teams of military ops.

Republicans want it dealt with as full-scale wars.

What would your plan be?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. The Kingpin Strategy: Assassination as US Policy and How It Failed, From 1990-2015
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:29 AM
May 2015

As the war on terror nears its 14th anniversary -- a war we seem to be losing, given jihadist advances in Iraq, Syria, and Yemen -- the U.S. sticks stolidly to its strategy of “high-value targeting,” our preferred euphemism for assassination. Secretary of State John Kerry has proudly cited the elimination of “fifty percent” of the Islamic State’s “top commanders” as a recent indication of progress. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi himself, “Caliph” of the Islamic State, was reportedly seriously wounded in a March airstrike and thereby removed from day-to-day control of the organization. In January, as the White House belatedly admitted, a strike targeting al-Qaeda leadership in Pakistan also managed to kill an American, Warren Weinstein, and his fellow hostage, Giovanni Lo Porto.

More recently in Yemen, even as al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula took control of a key airport, an American drone strike killed Ibrahim Suleiman al-Rubaish, allegedly an important figure in the group’s hierarchy. Meanwhile, the Saudi news channel al-Arabiya has featured a deck of cards bearing pictures of that country’s principal enemies in Yemen in emulation of the infamous cards issued by the U.S. military prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq as an aid to targeting its leaders. (Saddam Hussein was the ace of spades.)

Whatever the euphemism -- the Israelis prefer to call it “focused prevention” -- assassination has clearly been Washington’s favored strategy in the twenty-first century. Methods of implementation, including drones, cruise missiles, and Special Operations forces hunter-killer teams, may vary, but the core notion that the path to success lies in directly attacking and taking out your enemy’s leadership has become deeply embedded. As then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton put it in 2010, “We believe that the use of intelligence-driven, precision-targeted operations against high-value insurgents and their networks is a key component” of U.S. strategy.

Analyses of this policy often refer, correctly, to the blood-drenched precedent of the CIA’s Vietnam-era Phoenix Program -- at least 20,000 “neutralized.” But there was a more recent and far more direct, if less noted, source of inspiration for the contemporary American program of murder in the Greater Middle East and Africa, the “kingpin strategy” of Washington’s drug wars of the 1990s. As a former senior White House counterterrorism official confirmed to me in a 2013 interview, “The idea had its origins in the drug war. So that precedent was already in the system as a shaper of our thinking. We had a high degree of confidence in the utility of targeted killing. There was a strong sense that this was a tool to be used.”

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/30482-the-kingpin-strategy-assassination-as-policy-in-washington-and-how-it-failed-from-1990-2015

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. Locking as a duplicate topic
Sat May 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
May 2015
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