Fla. rep on estranged wife: 'Gold diggers gotta dig'
Source: The Hill
The saga between Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) and his estranged wife took another turn after an agreement on terms for their divorce fell apart.
"I'll sum it up for you. Gold diggers gotta dig. That's all I gotta say," he told local ABC affiliate WFTV on Monday after leaving the courtroom, accusing Lolita Grayson of reneging on an agreement.
His estranged wife of 25 years, Lolita, filed for divorce early last year. The House member and former telecom company co-founder has sought an annulment on the basis of bigamy, and they appeared to reach terms last month on an annulment, which would not require equal division of $30 million in assets.
She also said last October that she and her four kids were living in a moldy house after he didn't pay for repairs, and that her husband had cut off her credit cards.
Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/242470-fla-rep-on-estranged-wife-gold-diggers-gotta-dig
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)He's been embarrassing himself in everything he does in relation to his ex.
Kingofalldems
(38,361 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)I'm glad the Democratic party down there already endorsed Murphy.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)avoid paying taxes. Could it be the this is why his money is out of the country? It would make sense. I went through an ugly divorce and one should not make judgments on what is claimed by either side. They are gaming each other.
MADem
(135,425 posts)You are not a public figure. He is, and his children will be affected by the public excoriation of their mother--who has been their primary caregiver for the majority of their lives.
There's a thing called the high road, and he should have taken it.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)appalachiablue
(41,056 posts)Last edited Tue May 19, 2015, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)
ubiquitous, 'we grew apart", or 'we will always care for and support each other, it was a mutual decision" and everything's ok. Lolita was not truthful in telling him that she was divorced from her 1st husband which was discovered many years and children later. I don't know that both of them aren't marital monsters, but Grayson's blunt remark doesn't surprise me, as unpleasant and highly unusual as it is.
ETA: Looking at what John Edward's did and said about wife Eliz. Edwards- that he wasn't involved with Rielle Hunter (Lisa Jo Druck) while Elizabeth was ill...what a saint, he. She was actually in an interim chemo free period at the time. In view of Newt, Arnold S., Bob Packwood of Oregon years ago, and the serial behavior of that famous saxophone player from Arkansas, Grayson's actions seem tame. There's something else about him going on perhaps.
MADem
(135,425 posts)In fact, he never called her any names. He apologized, and asked her forgiveness, and the forgiveness of the nation.
A guy who can get so nasty about the mother of his five kids has problems. That's not "bluntness," that's pisspoor judgment, unreasonable anger, a willingness to humiliate his own children in order to be perceived as "winning." And we've heard "winning" before.
They're personal, his problems, and they're serious, and they are likely impacting his judgment and performance across the board. He needs help.
appalachiablue
(41,056 posts)How about when an ex-mistress says very personal things alleged about a spouse, still not say anything, keep quiet? Generally what the offender does, not says is key to me as stated.
MADem
(135,425 posts)and hand it to you?
You're not gonna get that.
FWIW, your "saxaphone player" is not divorced, and his child didn't have to accept welfare in order to get by. Grayson can't say the same about his five children.
Here's the bottom line--people are responsible for what THEY say. Not what "ex-mistresses" might or might not say.
America is a nation of second chances. Grayson--by HIS conduct--is shutting the door on a second chance. He needs to be quiet and try to resolve this matter, not call the mother of his FIVE children who has spent a QUARTER CENTURY of her life raising them names.
The saxaphone player you're whining about is still married and has earned the forgiveness of his family and pretty much anyone who didn't hate him in the first place. He didn't make disparaging statements about his wife, unlike this unhinged fellow who probably doesn't realize that his career is self-destructing before his eyes.
When in doubt, "No comment" is the best tactic--Grayson has disgraced himself, not his spouse, with his comments, and he has embarrassed his children, who carry his name and will be subjected to scrutiny as a consequence of his intemperate remarks.
appalachiablue
(41,056 posts)for the sake of his wife, daughter, marriage and the country. And he alone is responsible for bringing the pain, the shame and mistresses into the family's personal matters. But crown him Husband of the Year for all I care. I'm done with him for 10+ years anyway.
So Grayson is the fiend of all time? nah. He is divorcing his wife Lolita who is still married to another man, his wife who lied to him that she was divorced and kept it secret for decades and through 5 children. Now Lolita is one smart, cunning person sans emotion.
MADem
(135,425 posts)What's with the hyper-dramatic "fiend of all time" hyperbole? Who ever said that? Answer: No one, not ever. And calling a woman who raised five children a "smart, cunning person sans emotion" sounds mysogynistic to my ear. Because, ya know, raising five kids alone is SUCH a party and all....
He's acting like an ass, and unless he does some enormous damage control quick, he is screwing HIMSELF. All by himself.
Your "two wrongs make a right" justification is pathetic. Lolita wasn't partying, she was giving birth to/raising five children, mostly alone because he was off in DC, having a fine old time. And apparently, she was only a bigamist for four years, technically, because the first husband eventually did obtain a proper divorce.
Of course, there's no "common law" in FL, so she's screwed. If she were a real gold digger, she would have made sure to visit a common law state with her name-calling partner--some of them only require cohabitation for a day or so to claim the status.
tblue37
(64,982 posts)asjr
(10,479 posts)or a divorce. If the 4 children are his he will have to pay. His attitude works well when it concerns politics but this just might be his undoing.
Xithras
(16,191 posts)Which gives him grounds for an annulment. Marriages are annulled for that reason fairly routinely, and only the length of time to the petition makes this one unusual.
As for the kids, it also gives him grounds to petition for paternity testing if he suspects that any of them may not be his. If they're married, the law automatically assigns him paternity, even if they were the result of her infidelity. Even DNA tests won't clear him of liability for them. If the marriage is annulled, automatic paternity laws won't apply and he can potentially get off the hook for any children that aren't his. I don't know if that's an actual concern in this case, but it's a common reason why some pursue annulment over divorce. Annulment doesn't automatically void the assumption of paternity, but it does give the man grounds to challenge it.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)That would be a smart move, and he's made his share of smart moves.
asjr
(10,479 posts)a mess that is. I agree an annulment seems more likely.
MADem
(135,425 posts)She has political ambitions, her name is Dena Minning.
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)He should have said "No comment."
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Lisa D
(1,532 posts)Does Grayson think he'll win over (or keep) voters with that kind of remark? Sad.
appalachiablue
(41,056 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,705 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)What in hell is the matter with that guy? Even if they disagree on distribution of assets, even if their relationship has irretrievably broken down, that is a shitty thing to say about someone who stuck by him for 25 years. What does it say about HIM that he would a) Marry a "gold digger," and b) Have not one, not two, not three, not four, but FiVE kids with the little "tramp?" Jury--that's some Heavy, HEAVY for the irony impaired, there....
He has dragged the MOTHER of his children through the mud. He has made a spectacle of her--and himself. The term is sexist. He should check HIS judgment when it comes to whom he decides to associate--for a quarter frigging century--rather than toss shitbombs like "gold digger." Of course, "gold diggers" only go after hideous, ugly cretinous guys with money, so perhaps he's saying more about himself than his spouse when he throws bombs like that.
He tried to tout his girlfriend to the DHCC as a viable candidate for his seat so he could run for the Senate (all that went over like the proverbial lead balloon--the DSCC won't back him in his run).
He didn't fix the septic system in the family home, either--and there were pictures to prove it. That's what was causing all the mold.
He's behaving disgracefully. He looks bloated, slovenly, unkempt. Middle-aged crazy. He needs to shut up about his personal life, and try to behave in a gentlemanly way--it's probably too late for that. He provided so poorly for his family that his spouse was able to apply for welfare assistance--and I'm quite sure they double-checked how much money was coming in, too.
What we are seeing here is the self-destruction of a person who up to now has been a reliable Democratic vote in Congress. It's a crying shame.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)If he had kept all this quiet, given her 50% or whatever is equitable and provided decently for his kids and her, he might have had a chance in the political world. The way he's been so dumb, to put it kindly, his future career is in doubt, at the minimum. I would not be surprised if he's toast.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Without the wild hair.
He was always a treat on the floor of the House.
"Beam me up, Scotty"
I do like his positions, I dont like much how this affair is being handled. Show some class dude!
Shut the f up for the kids sake.
Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)But he should do better on resisting the temptation to take snipes publicly because it can not help him in any way.
MADem
(135,425 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)How do you know this?
Do you know this woman, personally?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)What the fuck?
MADem
(135,425 posts)raising this guy's children, mostly alone, is a "gold digger?" "What the fuck" yourself!! I'm quoting YOU, there.
A smart gold digger (and that is a nasty, insulting and sexist term--it refers to a young and beautiful woman who latches on to an ugly, smelly old rich guy, usually, for the purposes of bilking him out of his money) gets out before having to do all that birthing and child rearing. The nerve of this fifty five year old "gold digger" to want the septic system in the house repaired! How dare she want enough money to pay the bills and put food on the table!!
How long before he calls his new girlfriend a gold digger? The second he doesn't get his way?
The mother of his five children is not a gold digger. But he is an ass to talk about his children's mom--who they know better than him--that way, in public, to reporters. Real liberals don't do that kind of shit. He should be ashamed of himself.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)and it really is none of our business IMO.
MADem
(135,425 posts)no one would notice. He makes it our business when he uses his fame to disparage a woman who is a private citizen.
Never mind that we do know that something has gone on between them--at least five times over a quarter century. Those children are victims, too.
tblue37
(64,982 posts)the woman he was married to for, what, 20 or 25 years? He should be ashamed--but of corse he is proud of what he considers to be a clever, witty one-liner.
secondvariety
(1,245 posts)And I'll vote for him if he runs statewide.
Judi Lynn
(160,219 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)marble falls
(56,361 posts)JI7
(89,182 posts)The way he talks about her is disgusting.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Fairly dividing the marital assets is "gold digging."
MADem
(135,425 posts)He didn't do the heavy lifting--he got to spend a lot of time away from home, in Washington DC. She was as alone as a military spouse whose partner was deployed much of the time.
Fifty five years old--and she's being thrown over for a new edition. A much younger one, too....
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)but if they were never legally married, then there has to be some legitimate question concerning what qualifies as a marital asset.
Big_Mike
(509 posts)I expected the article to be about Rep. Grayson. I believe he is one scoop short of a box of Fruit Loops.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)Thank you.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)PeteSelman
(1,508 posts)He would know far better than any of us.