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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Tue May 19, 2015, 10:55 AM May 2015

Fla. rep on estranged wife: 'Gold diggers gotta dig'

Source: The Hill

The saga between Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) and his estranged wife took another turn after an agreement on terms for their divorce fell apart.

"I'll sum it up for you. Gold diggers gotta dig. That's all I gotta say," he told local ABC affiliate WFTV on Monday after leaving the courtroom, accusing Lolita Grayson of reneging on an agreement.

His estranged wife of 25 years, Lolita, filed for divorce early last year. The House member and former telecom company co-founder has sought an annulment on the basis of bigamy, and they appeared to reach terms last month on an annulment, which would not require equal division of $30 million in assets.

She also said last October that she and her four kids were living in a moldy house after he didn't pay for repairs, and that her husband had cut off her credit cards.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/242470-fla-rep-on-estranged-wife-gold-diggers-gotta-dig

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Fla. rep on estranged wife: 'Gold diggers gotta dig' (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs May 2015 OP
Sad, just sad. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #1
Fail. Kingofalldems May 2015 #2
Is the company that Grayson co-founded the same company that Howard Jonas co-founded? George II May 2015 #3
What an ass leftynyc May 2015 #4
Just a thought: Last week there was the big article about how he was off shoring his money to jwirr May 2015 #5
Yes, of course it is--it can't be counted if it's not here. MADem May 2015 #17
Of course. What I was doing was questioning the tax evation story. jwirr May 2015 #19
Postscript~ Grayson's known for directness, and in this case he went all out rather than the appalachiablue May 2015 #6
The "saxaphone player" never called his wife a gold digger. MADem May 2015 #15
If you don't say anything foul but lie & continue secretive behavior it's ok & you don't need help. appalachiablue May 2015 #20
He admitted he was a fuckup, and he apologized. You want him to rip out his beating heart MADem May 2015 #22
I don't want anything from him, never did. Would have been nice if he'd stopped his ways appalachiablue May 2015 #25
Well, that didn't happen--unless you have a time machine, you can't change the course of events. MADem May 2015 #29
+1 million!. nt tblue37 May 2015 #31
After 25 years why now seek to get an annulment asjr May 2015 #7
She was already married when she married him. Xithras May 2015 #16
Oh he should absolutely get paternity testing on his kids. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #23
Thank you for the information. I had no idea what asjr May 2015 #38
He has a new girlfriend now. MADem May 2015 #24
isnt this a personal matter that we should be staying out of Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #8
Yes, it is. Lisa D May 2015 #11
He seems to have an inability to say that phrase Freddie Stubbs May 2015 #13
That's what he should have said. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #12
Agree. closeupready May 2015 #28
Not smart Lisa D May 2015 #9
He may not be smart about this but Lolita is. She lied & has kept this secret for decades. appalachiablue May 2015 #21
I don't think these remarks are helpful to his political ambitions./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #10
+1. No matter how truthful they are. closeupready May 2015 #27
"Gold digger?" After a quarter CENTURY and FIVE kids? MADem May 2015 #14
have to agree with you as usual steve2470 May 2015 #42
He reminds me of Rep. Traficante. 7wo7rees May 2015 #50
Well, he's a major fucking asshole. Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #18
+1 darkangel218 May 2015 #54
I'll defer to him. She seems that way to me from what I've read here. closeupready May 2015 #26
Seems what way? nt MADem May 2015 #32
Dishonest. closeupready May 2015 #33
You know that dishonesty, and not fear from screwing up, is what was in her heart? MADem May 2015 #34
Wow. Why are you so vested in implying he's lying about her? closeupready May 2015 #35
Why are you so vested in supporting the POV that a woman who has spent 25 years MADem May 2015 #43
None of us know what has gone on between them Mojorabbit May 2015 #46
Maybe the representative shouldn't share his characterizations with the media then, and MADem May 2015 #47
That is disgusting. He just destroyed his own reputation by smearing *the mother of his children*, tblue37 May 2015 #30
I still like him. secondvariety May 2015 #36
It's good to hear it, although it will tick off the trolls. More power to you. n/t Judi Lynn May 2015 #37
Are "the trolls" people who think Grayson shows no class when talking about the mother of his kids? Cha May 2015 #49
A great Congressman with a cringeworthy "private" life. Sad. marble falls May 2015 #39
they were together for decades and have many children together JI7 May 2015 #40
so typical treestar May 2015 #41
Well, all that birthing and child - rearing has no value according to this guy. MADem May 2015 #44
Not a Grayson fan... NaturalHigh May 2015 #45
As soon as I saw the title Big_Mike May 2015 #48
Beautiful!!! One scoop short... LOL!! 7wo7rees May 2015 #52
25 years and he calls her that. What an asshole. CBGLuthier May 2015 #51
Sometimes things just are what they are. PeteSelman May 2015 #53

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
5. Just a thought: Last week there was the big article about how he was off shoring his money to
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:08 AM
May 2015

avoid paying taxes. Could it be the this is why his money is out of the country? It would make sense. I went through an ugly divorce and one should not make judgments on what is claimed by either side. They are gaming each other.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Yes, of course it is--it can't be counted if it's not here.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:05 PM
May 2015

You are not a public figure. He is, and his children will be affected by the public excoriation of their mother--who has been their primary caregiver for the majority of their lives.

There's a thing called the high road, and he should have taken it.

appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
6. Postscript~ Grayson's known for directness, and in this case he went all out rather than the
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:09 AM
May 2015

Last edited Tue May 19, 2015, 11:43 AM - Edit history (1)

ubiquitous, 'we grew apart", or 'we will always care for and support each other, it was a mutual decision" and everything's ok. Lolita was not truthful in telling him that she was divorced from her 1st husband which was discovered many years and children later. I don't know that both of them aren't marital monsters, but Grayson's blunt remark doesn't surprise me, as unpleasant and highly unusual as it is.

ETA: Looking at what John Edward's did and said about wife Eliz. Edwards- that he wasn't involved with Rielle Hunter (Lisa Jo Druck) while Elizabeth was ill...what a saint, he. She was actually in an interim chemo free period at the time. In view of Newt, Arnold S., Bob Packwood of Oregon years ago, and the serial behavior of that famous saxophone player from Arkansas, Grayson's actions seem tame. There's something else about him going on perhaps.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. The "saxaphone player" never called his wife a gold digger.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:53 AM
May 2015

In fact, he never called her any names. He apologized, and asked her forgiveness, and the forgiveness of the nation.

A guy who can get so nasty about the mother of his five kids has problems. That's not "bluntness," that's pisspoor judgment, unreasonable anger, a willingness to humiliate his own children in order to be perceived as "winning." And we've heard "winning" before.

They're personal, his problems, and they're serious, and they are likely impacting his judgment and performance across the board. He needs help.

appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
20. If you don't say anything foul but lie & continue secretive behavior it's ok & you don't need help.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
May 2015

How about when an ex-mistress says very personal things alleged about a spouse, still not say anything, keep quiet? Generally what the offender does, not says is key to me as stated.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. He admitted he was a fuckup, and he apologized. You want him to rip out his beating heart
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:28 PM
May 2015

and hand it to you?

You're not gonna get that.

FWIW, your "saxaphone player" is not divorced, and his child didn't have to accept welfare in order to get by. Grayson can't say the same about his five children.


Here's the bottom line--people are responsible for what THEY say. Not what "ex-mistresses" might or might not say.

America is a nation of second chances. Grayson--by HIS conduct--is shutting the door on a second chance. He needs to be quiet and try to resolve this matter, not call the mother of his FIVE children who has spent a QUARTER CENTURY of her life raising them names.


The saxaphone player you're whining about is still married and has earned the forgiveness of his family and pretty much anyone who didn't hate him in the first place. He didn't make disparaging statements about his wife, unlike this unhinged fellow who probably doesn't realize that his career is self-destructing before his eyes.


When in doubt, "No comment" is the best tactic--Grayson has disgraced himself, not his spouse, with his comments, and he has embarrassed his children, who carry his name and will be subjected to scrutiny as a consequence of his intemperate remarks.

appalachiablue

(41,056 posts)
25. I don't want anything from him, never did. Would have been nice if he'd stopped his ways
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:50 PM
May 2015

for the sake of his wife, daughter, marriage and the country. And he alone is responsible for bringing the pain, the shame and mistresses into the family's personal matters. But crown him Husband of the Year for all I care. I'm done with him for 10+ years anyway.

So Grayson is the fiend of all time? nah. He is divorcing his wife Lolita who is still married to another man, his wife who lied to him that she was divorced and kept it secret for decades and through 5 children. Now Lolita is one smart, cunning person sans emotion.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Well, that didn't happen--unless you have a time machine, you can't change the course of events.
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:08 PM
May 2015

What's with the hyper-dramatic "fiend of all time" hyperbole? Who ever said that? Answer: No one, not ever. And calling a woman who raised five children a "smart, cunning person sans emotion" sounds mysogynistic to my ear. Because, ya know, raising five kids alone is SUCH a party and all....

He's acting like an ass, and unless he does some enormous damage control quick, he is screwing HIMSELF. All by himself.

Your "two wrongs make a right" justification is pathetic. Lolita wasn't partying, she was giving birth to/raising five children, mostly alone because he was off in DC, having a fine old time. And apparently, she was only a bigamist for four years, technically, because the first husband eventually did obtain a proper divorce.

Of course, there's no "common law" in FL, so she's screwed. If she were a real gold digger, she would have made sure to visit a common law state with her name-calling partner--some of them only require cohabitation for a day or so to claim the status.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
7. After 25 years why now seek to get an annulment
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:11 AM
May 2015

or a divorce. If the 4 children are his he will have to pay. His attitude works well when it concerns politics but this just might be his undoing.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
16. She was already married when she married him.
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:56 AM
May 2015

Which gives him grounds for an annulment. Marriages are annulled for that reason fairly routinely, and only the length of time to the petition makes this one unusual.

As for the kids, it also gives him grounds to petition for paternity testing if he suspects that any of them may not be his. If they're married, the law automatically assigns him paternity, even if they were the result of her infidelity. Even DNA tests won't clear him of liability for them. If the marriage is annulled, automatic paternity laws won't apply and he can potentially get off the hook for any children that aren't his. I don't know if that's an actual concern in this case, but it's a common reason why some pursue annulment over divorce. Annulment doesn't automatically void the assumption of paternity, but it does give the man grounds to challenge it.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
23. Oh he should absolutely get paternity testing on his kids.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:35 PM
May 2015

That would be a smart move, and he's made his share of smart moves.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
38. Thank you for the information. I had no idea what
Tue May 19, 2015, 04:32 PM
May 2015

a mess that is. I agree an annulment seems more likely.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
14. "Gold digger?" After a quarter CENTURY and FIVE kids?
Tue May 19, 2015, 11:47 AM
May 2015

What in hell is the matter with that guy? Even if they disagree on distribution of assets, even if their relationship has irretrievably broken down, that is a shitty thing to say about someone who stuck by him for 25 years. What does it say about HIM that he would a) Marry a "gold digger," and b) Have not one, not two, not three, not four, but FiVE kids with the little "tramp?" Jury--that's some Heavy, HEAVY for the irony impaired, there....

He has dragged the MOTHER of his children through the mud. He has made a spectacle of her--and himself. The term is sexist. He should check HIS judgment when it comes to whom he decides to associate--for a quarter frigging century--rather than toss shitbombs like "gold digger." Of course, "gold diggers" only go after hideous, ugly cretinous guys with money, so perhaps he's saying more about himself than his spouse when he throws bombs like that.

He tried to tout his girlfriend to the DHCC as a viable candidate for his seat so he could run for the Senate (all that went over like the proverbial lead balloon--the DSCC won't back him in his run).

He didn't fix the septic system in the family home, either--and there were pictures to prove it. That's what was causing all the mold.

He's behaving disgracefully. He looks bloated, slovenly, unkempt. Middle-aged crazy. He needs to shut up about his personal life, and try to behave in a gentlemanly way--it's probably too late for that. He provided so poorly for his family that his spouse was able to apply for welfare assistance--and I'm quite sure they double-checked how much money was coming in, too.

What we are seeing here is the self-destruction of a person who up to now has been a reliable Democratic vote in Congress. It's a crying shame.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
42. have to agree with you as usual
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:27 PM
May 2015

If he had kept all this quiet, given her 50% or whatever is equitable and provided decently for his kids and her, he might have had a chance in the political world. The way he's been so dumb, to put it kindly, his future career is in doubt, at the minimum. I would not be surprised if he's toast.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
50. He reminds me of Rep. Traficante.
Wed May 20, 2015, 03:07 AM
May 2015

Without the wild hair.

He was always a treat on the floor of the House.
"Beam me up, Scotty"

I do like his positions, I dont like much how this affair is being handled. Show some class dude!
Shut the f up for the kids sake.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
26. I'll defer to him. She seems that way to me from what I've read here.
Tue May 19, 2015, 12:59 PM
May 2015

But he should do better on resisting the temptation to take snipes publicly because it can not help him in any way.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. You know that dishonesty, and not fear from screwing up, is what was in her heart?
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:34 PM
May 2015

How do you know this?

Do you know this woman, personally?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. Why are you so vested in supporting the POV that a woman who has spent 25 years
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:41 PM
May 2015

raising this guy's children, mostly alone, is a "gold digger?" "What the fuck" yourself!! I'm quoting YOU, there.

A smart gold digger (and that is a nasty, insulting and sexist term--it refers to a young and beautiful woman who latches on to an ugly, smelly old rich guy, usually, for the purposes of bilking him out of his money) gets out before having to do all that birthing and child rearing. The nerve of this fifty five year old "gold digger" to want the septic system in the house repaired! How dare she want enough money to pay the bills and put food on the table!!

How long before he calls his new girlfriend a gold digger? The second he doesn't get his way?

The mother of his five children is not a gold digger. But he is an ass to talk about his children's mom--who they know better than him--that way, in public, to reporters. Real liberals don't do that kind of shit. He should be ashamed of himself.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. Maybe the representative shouldn't share his characterizations with the media then, and
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:39 PM
May 2015

no one would notice. He makes it our business when he uses his fame to disparage a woman who is a private citizen.

Never mind that we do know that something has gone on between them--at least five times over a quarter century. Those children are victims, too.

tblue37

(64,982 posts)
30. That is disgusting. He just destroyed his own reputation by smearing *the mother of his children*,
Tue May 19, 2015, 01:09 PM
May 2015

the woman he was married to for, what, 20 or 25 years? He should be ashamed--but of corse he is proud of what he considers to be a clever, witty one-liner.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
49. Are "the trolls" people who think Grayson shows no class when talking about the mother of his kids?
Wed May 20, 2015, 12:00 AM
May 2015

JI7

(89,182 posts)
40. they were together for decades and have many children together
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:17 PM
May 2015

The way he talks about her is disgusting.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
44. Well, all that birthing and child - rearing has no value according to this guy.
Tue May 19, 2015, 05:49 PM
May 2015

He didn't do the heavy lifting--he got to spend a lot of time away from home, in Washington DC. She was as alone as a military spouse whose partner was deployed much of the time.

Fifty five years old--and she's being thrown over for a new edition. A much younger one, too....

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
45. Not a Grayson fan...
Tue May 19, 2015, 08:44 PM
May 2015

but if they were never legally married, then there has to be some legitimate question concerning what qualifies as a marital asset.

Big_Mike

(509 posts)
48. As soon as I saw the title
Tue May 19, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

I expected the article to be about Rep. Grayson. I believe he is one scoop short of a box of Fruit Loops.

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