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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sat May 23, 2015, 11:41 AM May 2015

Top US Commander Says IS Actively Recruiting In Afghanistan

Source: Associated Press

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- The commander of international forces in Afghanistan says the Islamic State group is actively recruiting in Afghanistan but is not yet operational there.

General John F. Campbell said on Saturday the group's sophisticated social media campaign is attracting Taliban fighters in Afghanistan and Pakistan who are disgruntled with the lack of progress in more than 10 years of fighting to overthrow the Kabul government.

He says many are pledging allegiance to the Islamic State group, which controls about a third of Syria and Iraq.

"It is absolutely a concern" Campbell says, though his statement contradicts some Afghan officials who have said the group is fighting in a number of regions in Afghanistan.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_AFGHANISTAN_ISLAMIC_STATE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-05-23-10-58-13

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Top US Commander Says IS Actively Recruiting In Afghanistan (Original Post) Purveyor May 2015 OP
Religious craziness is contagious. Fournier May 2015 #1
Be afraid! Be very afraid! Human101948 May 2015 #2
The men and women of the US military that, at the end of the day will be called upon to fight these Purveyor May 2015 #3
And after we lose another 4,000 we will find out that ISIS was a CIA creation... Human101948 May 2015 #5
Actually, Isis will become an issue if they take over a country with nukes Marrah_G May 2015 #13
A lot of moderate civilians whose daughters and wives will be raped cosmicone May 2015 #4
So that justifies massive US intervention? Human101948 May 2015 #6
Why do lines on a map determine who does or does not deserve compassion? n/t Psephos May 2015 #9
Pussy footing around ISIS is stupid cosmicone May 2015 #7
I heard they were dumping babies out of incubators! Human101948 May 2015 #8
It is insensitive to compare a fake story with cosmicone May 2015 #12
Brutality is happening all over the world... Human101948 May 2015 #16
No worries, they're just the "Junior Varsity." n/t Psephos May 2015 #10
Only because Al Qaeda isn't scary enough anymore.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #14
"Exterminated"? Larry Engels May 2015 #15
Same here. Disgusted, repulsed immediately upon seeing it. Loathesome. n/t Judi Lynn May 2015 #17
We are not talking about innocent, peaceful human beings cosmicone May 2015 #28
To be honest romanic May 2015 #22
Obama calls it "Daesh" now.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #11
Rebranding, an advertiser's answer to every problem daleo May 2015 #21
Diet Cherry al Qaeda. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #23
Duh? merrily May 2015 #18
Yeah, it's like it is spreading or something. bemildred May 2015 #19
Imagine...we kill people for killing people and make more enemies and the next group is more angry libdem4life May 2015 #20
Right wingers are pissed because we pulled out in the middle of their surge.... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #24
Yes, now they are making fun of them for not "pushing back" hard enough. More blame the victim. libdem4life May 2015 #25
What's funny is the reports of the Bush trained Iraqi army pulling the Holy Grail "Run away!" bit. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #26
Truth is stranger than fiction...what a week in the RW Republican news stories. libdem4life May 2015 #27
Taliban -- IS JonLP24 May 2015 #29
 

Fournier

(42 posts)
1. Religious craziness is contagious.
Sat May 23, 2015, 11:51 AM
May 2015

ISIS is also very well organized. Not all forms of craziness are chaotic.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
3. The men and women of the US military that, at the end of the day will be called upon to fight these
Sat May 23, 2015, 11:58 AM
May 2015

bastards...

ISIS isn't going away be itself.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
5. And after we lose another 4,000 we will find out that ISIS was a CIA creation...
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:08 PM
May 2015

The best thing would be to not worry about them.

Who cares if it doesn't go away by itself?

This concern about ISIS is another excuse for fulfilling neocon wet dreams of world domination. Can we not learn from past mistakes?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
13. Actually, Isis will become an issue if they take over a country with nukes
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:47 PM
May 2015

Like Pakistan. Not as much of a problem for us as it will be for the Middle East and Asia, especially India.

I do think we need to get out of there and I do think that the rest of the Islamic countries in the area need to step up and stop them before they get too big to stop.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
4. A lot of moderate civilians whose daughters and wives will be raped
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:07 PM
May 2015

and sons killed. They will then be subjected to harsh and brutal existence, killed if they are educated.

They do give a shit.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
6. So that justifies massive US intervention?
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

You are being sucked into the propaganda.

There is brutality taking place in virtually every corner of the globe. Why is it we are only concerned about the Middle East? Oil perhaps?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
7. Pussy footing around ISIS is stupid
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:10 PM
May 2015

It is a much bigger threat than Russia, China or Al Q'aeda.

ISIS sympathizers, supporters, funders, recruiters and priests should all be exterminated no matter how many. Massive firepower to annihilate this vermin is needed.

If we don't do this, hundreds of thousands of women will be raped and enslaved and lots of moderate muslims subjected to a genocide.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
12. It is insensitive to compare a fake story with
Sat May 23, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

real brutality faced by the Yazidi women, the Kurds and the Christians of Iraq.

You want to try to crack a joke about beheadings as well or have you lost your head?

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
16. Brutality is happening all over the world...
Sat May 23, 2015, 05:20 PM
May 2015

why is this instance so important?

"If, however, you took a step out of the overwrought American universe of terror threats for thirty seconds, it couldn’t have been clearer that everyone in the grim netherworld of the Middle East now seemed to have our number. The beheading videos of the Islamic State had clearly been meant to cause hysteria on the cheap in this country—and they worked. Those first two videos somehow committed us to a war now predicted to last for years, and a never-ending bombing campaign that we know perfectly well will establish the global credentials of the Islamic State and its mad caliph in jihadist circles. (In fact, the evidence is already in. From North Africa to Afghanistan to Pakistan, the group is suddenly a brand name, its black flag something to hoist and its style of beheading something to be imitated.)"

http://www.thenation.com/article/181880/no-isis-not-threat-us

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. Only because Al Qaeda isn't scary enough anymore....
Sat May 23, 2015, 02:16 PM
May 2015

Americans don't care about a bunch of guys driving around in Toyota pickup trucks from the 80s.

Worry when the population greets them as liberators. They are universally despised by the population for their fanaticism.

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
15. "Exterminated"?
Sat May 23, 2015, 04:19 PM
May 2015

I find the use of that word in connection with human beings deeply offensive. "Extermination" of people is what Hitler did to Jews.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
28. We are not talking about innocent, peaceful human beings
Sun May 24, 2015, 10:34 PM
May 2015

We are talking about murderers, rapists, kidnappers, beheaders, slave masters, people holding others for ransom and generally extremely violent people.

Exterminate means "destroy completely" and no need to invoke Godwin's law. You are not serious when you're equating European Jews with ISIS people are you?

Would you have liked "extirpate" or "eradicate" better than exterminate?

romanic

(2,841 posts)
22. To be honest
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:21 PM
May 2015

I'm beginning to agree, ISIS needs to be stopped dead in it's tracks before it embroils the Middle East into complete chaos.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Obama calls it "Daesh" now....
Sat May 23, 2015, 12:59 PM
May 2015

"Daesh" (dash) is the pronunciation of the acronym for ISIS in Arabic but it also sounds like the Arabic word "daes" which means to crush something under one's foot which is a major insult to them.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
21. Rebranding, an advertiser's answer to every problem
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:19 PM
May 2015

Maybe we will get Daesh and ISIS Classic eventually.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
20. Imagine...we kill people for killing people and make more enemies and the next group is more angry
Sun May 24, 2015, 01:26 PM
May 2015

than the last six and will continue to grow. It's the Hydra Effect...cut of one head or tentacle, and two arise. Sorry, Obama is no Hercules.

And if we don't want Pakistan to get or use The Bomb, then we go get it from them...not invoke their holy name when justifying more futile and very expensive tentacle-chopping with our best and brightest young men and woman getting killed, maimed, PTSD. Not in my name.

I refuse to call them "Boots on the Ground" ... they are our human legacy. Beware Empire...they always fall.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
24. Right wingers are pissed because we pulled out in the middle of their surge....
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:27 PM
May 2015

Then we made them sleep in the wet spot.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
25. Yes, now they are making fun of them for not "pushing back" hard enough. More blame the victim.
Sun May 24, 2015, 09:37 PM
May 2015

Seems to be a national obsession.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
29. Taliban -- IS
Sun May 24, 2015, 11:08 PM
May 2015

Same thing basically, they do the same thing over areas they have control over and I don't doubt same groups are in charge of both.

Pakistan was also one of only three countries, along with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), which recognised the Taliban when they were in power in Afghanistan from the mid-1990s until 2001.

It was also the last country to break diplomatic ties with the Taliban.

Although Pakistan has in recent years adopted a harder line against Taliban militants carrying out attacks on its soil, new Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif - who was elected in May - has said talking to the militants is one of his priorities.

In recent months at least three key leaders of the Pakistani Taliban have been killed in US drone strikes. Mullah Nazir was killed in January and Waliur Rehman was killed in May.

In November 2013, the group's leader in Pakistan, Hakimullah Mehsud, was reported killed in a drone strike.

But despite these setbacks for the militants, there is evidence that their influence in Karachi has significantly increased.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-south-asia-11451718

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