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alp227

(32,019 posts)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:48 PM Apr 2012

Opry owner, Wisconsin company sue over Nashville floods

Source: CNN

The owner of country music's Grand Ole Opry sued the U.S. government on Monday, accusing two federal agencies of turning the 2010 flood that struck Nashville into a man-made catastrophe.

Gaylord Entertainment was joined in the lawsuit by A.O. Smith, the Wisconsin-based water-heater manufacturer that saw one of its plants along the Cumberland River inundated in the May 2010 flood. Their lawsuit names the Army Corps of Engineers and the National Weather Service, which have acknowledged that a lack of communication undercut flood warnings.

"It is a simple fact that we incurred millions of dollars in damages because the Corps released so much water into the Cumberland River that it rose above the 100-year flood plain," the companies said in a joint statement. "We have a fiduciary responsibility to our shareholders to seek remuneration for the losses we sustained as a result of this negligence, and also to ensure that both parties make significant process improvements to prevent a man-made disaster from occurring in any future flood event."

The Cumberland eventually crested at nearly 52 feet in downtown Nashville, almost 12 feet over flood stage and about 10 feet higher than forecast. The flooding killed 11 people in the city and inflicted more than $2 billion in damage, with an additional 15 people killed in the surrounding region.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/30/us/tennessee-flood-lawsuit/index.html

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Opry owner, Wisconsin company sue over Nashville floods (Original Post) alp227 Apr 2012 OP
What a bizarre article... Hard to make sense of it... but, K&R..hopefully KoKo Apr 2012 #1
So, let me see if I understand this correctly. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #2
Exactly correct.... Tippy May 2012 #8
Exactly incorrect obamanut2012 May 2012 #10
Well thats what a jury is for to decide that though cstanleytech May 2012 #18
AND because the government cuts they are always screaming for Doctor_J May 2012 #14
Sued who cin63 May 2012 #3
All run by republicans, no doubt, who are against OTHER PEOPLE being loudsue May 2012 #4
Nope. Nashville is a blue county. TNDemo May 2012 #6
Yes - The Gaylords are rabid right wing Republicans from Oklahoma. DURHAM D May 2012 #19
Yep, the ass-wipes bought Opryland and closed it to build a frickin shopping mall, Uncle Joe May 2012 #23
Wrong assumption.... 4_TN_TITANS May 2012 #24
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #5
"gap-toothed banjo pickers" and "hillbillies" obamanut2012 May 2012 #9
Bigotry is alive and well. TNDemo May 2012 #12
Their complaint is the lack of communication from the corps. TNDemo May 2012 #7
Correct -- I wish people would read teh article obamanut2012 May 2012 #11
The corps warned authorities but TN auhtorities failed to pass on the warning? nanabugg May 2012 #13
I haven't heard that but who knows. TNDemo May 2012 #15
that's the right wingers for you Doctor_J May 2012 #16
NASHVILLE IS A BLUE COUNTY. TNDemo May 2012 #17
I am conflicted. DURHAM D May 2012 #21
And TN is a red state, and the Gaylords are right-wing Republicans Doctor_J May 2012 #22
I have to say... Neoma May 2012 #20

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
1. What a bizarre article... Hard to make sense of it... but, K&R..hopefully
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:36 PM
Apr 2012

more info will be forthcoming.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
2. So, let me see if I understand this correctly.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:08 PM
Apr 2012

They are in essence complaining because the building they built on a flood plain was damaged in a flood? Is that about right?

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
10. Exactly incorrect
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:05 AM
May 2012

They are, rightly, suing because they were not told the Army was opening the dam, even after they called and asked. After the dam was opened, WITH NO ADVANCE WARNING, the flooding was horrific. Residents had no time to save anything, and many lost everything they owned. Luckily, the manager of the convention center was proactive, and evacuated guests under his care. They could have been enormous loss of life from opening the dam WITH NO ADVANCE WARNING. It wasl uck this didn't happen.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
18. Well thats what a jury is for to decide that though
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:38 AM
May 2012

I will point out building on a flood plain and complaining when you get flooded kinda is dumb regardless of how sudden or unexpected said flood was. Why? Because its a flood plain.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. AND because the government cuts they are always screaming for
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:21 AM
May 2012

actually have consequences, besides lower taxes. Fucking right-wing hypocrites.

cin63

(37 posts)
3. Sued who
Tue May 1, 2012, 12:24 AM
May 2012

Are they gonna sue God for letting it rain so much? Pretty soon they'll be suing cause they don't have enough water.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
4. All run by republicans, no doubt, who are against OTHER PEOPLE being
Tue May 1, 2012, 01:02 AM
May 2012

able to sue in court for damage incurred....like, uh, fracking and stuff?

Just a wild guess. Nashville tends to be MIGHTY republican.

Uncle Joe

(58,354 posts)
23. Yep, the ass-wipes bought Opryland and closed it to build a frickin shopping mall,
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:16 AM
May 2012

as if we needed another shopping mall.

Growing up in Nashville, I had great memories of Opryland until Gaylord screwed it.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
24. Wrong assumption....
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:28 AM
May 2012

Nashville is very blue, like Memphis. About from where I'm at - Eastern Middle TN - all the way East to NC is where the Red shit stain is. However, I have seen plenty of Obama stickers and signs in Cookeville, but not a single one for Rmoney. For what it's worth, our local politics is very blue in a nationally red county. Go figure...

Response to alp227 (Original post)

TNDemo

(3,452 posts)
7. Their complaint is the lack of communication from the corps.
Tue May 1, 2012, 07:51 AM
May 2012

They did not tell anyone they were going to open the dam and subdivisions were suddenly flooded with no advance warning. Opryland Hotel had called the corps and were told there was no danger of flooding. The manager took it upon himself to evacuate the place, a huge undertaking, and it is a good thing because when the corps opened the dam they never gave them warning. Thousands of people lost everything with no chance to save anything because the corps gave no notice.

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
11. Correct -- I wish people would read teh article
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:08 AM
May 2012

A friend is from Nashville, and said the damage was just horrific. I've seen photos, but that's never enough.

There was no excuse for The Corps inaction and bungling.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
13. The corps warned authorities but TN auhtorities failed to pass on the warning?
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:18 AM
May 2012

that's what my cousin told me....just asking?

TNDemo

(3,452 posts)
15. I haven't heard that but who knows.
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:23 AM
May 2012

I do know there was a lot of coverage at the time that direct calls to the corps resulted in assurances there would be no flooding and then they opened the dams. If authorities were told that is news but I'm sure it will come out in the trial. My end of town flooded horribly but no one is suing because it was just due to the rain. The corps has called it a 1000 year flood but I'm not sure how they would know that.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
16. that's the right wingers for you
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:25 AM
May 2012

they scream that the government is too oppressive, and costs too much, and that there are too many lawyers and law suits, until an act of God hits, at which time they blame the government and sue.

I hate Republicans.

TNDemo

(3,452 posts)
17. NASHVILLE IS A BLUE COUNTY.
Tue May 1, 2012, 09:34 AM
May 2012

Most of TN is red, but not Nashville. They aren't suing over the act of God, but over the lack of communication from the corps. Could they not have given at least a ten minute warning? Oh, yeah, we are opening the gates and there is about to be ten feet of water in your house. At least give them time to get in the car and drive out of there.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
21. I am conflicted.
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:05 AM
May 2012

The Gaylords are rightwing hate mongers. Real hard for me to feel sorry for them.

On the other hand the Opry is important to the local economy.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
22. And TN is a red state, and the Gaylords are right-wing Republicans
Tue May 1, 2012, 11:08 AM
May 2012

Think of the outcry that would have arisen on Hate Radio if the NOLA 9th ward had sued George Bush over the Katrina floods, where thousands did die because of the Bush's dereliction.

Wake up. Right-wingers - all of them - are devout liars, hypocrites, and partisans. These people would not be suing if Bush was still in the white House. If you side with them you are part of the problem.

Neoma

(10,039 posts)
20. I have to say...
Tue May 1, 2012, 10:33 AM
May 2012

Isn't this the flood where it flooded places that simply don't flood? Seriously. It was a 1,000 year flood. Anyone who got out of that without damages was lucky.

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