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Judi Lynn

(160,591 posts)
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:39 PM Jun 2015

Argentine police didn't use gloves in dead prosecutor's home

Source: Associated Press

Argentine police didn't use gloves in dead prosecutor's home
Jun 1, 6:05 PM EDT

By ALMUDENA CALATRAVA
Associated Press

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) -- The lead investigator in the mysterious death of a prosecutor who had accused Argentina's president of wrongdoing came under sharp criticism Monday for a video showing police working without latex gloves where Alberto Nisman's body was found.

Ernesto Duronto, vice president of Argentina's association of forensic experts, said many irregularities are seen in the video, which was shot by federal police and obtained by Canal 13.

The video "shows how things should not be done," Duronto said, saying it was paramount for forensic investigators to preserve the cleanliness of a crime scene.

. . .

In the video, an officer is seen removing articles from Nisman's safe without gloves. Officers are also seen picking up Nisman's cellphone without gloves and cleaning the gun found at the scene with toilet paper.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/L/LT_ARGENTINA_PROSECUTOR_KILLED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-01-16-58-42

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Argentine police didn't use gloves in dead prosecutor's home (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2015 OP
"cleaning the gun found at the scene with toilet paper" bemildred Jun 2015 #1
It was dirty..nt Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #6
You want the crime scene neat for when the Inspector comes. nt bemildred Jun 2015 #7
The officers who killed him came back to investigate cosmicone Jun 2015 #2
Bingo Wilms Jun 2015 #3
lesson: Don't mess with Iran's proxies in Argentina Bill USA Jun 2015 #4
Don't assume conspiracy when Stupidity will suffice. happyslug Jun 2015 #5
If the video shows cops cleaning a gun with toilet paper, JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2015 #8
It sounds like what they had to get the number happyslug Jun 2015 #10
Not everyone watches our crime shows dembotoz Jun 2015 #9
That's Some Mighty Fine Police Work There, Lou Freddie Stubbs Jun 2015 #11
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
2. The officers who killed him came back to investigate
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jun 2015

so they don't have to explain their fingerprints and DNA at the crime scene!

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
5. Don't assume conspiracy when Stupidity will suffice.
Mon Jun 1, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jun 2015

If you are surprised by the lack of use of latex gloves here, you should see US investigations. If you are being taped you tend to follow what is expected of you, and I would not be surprised that no gloves in standard procedure in Argentina (And I suspect it is also standard procedure in the US, for the same reason, the Camera could be used for other things other then reviewing a crime scene, but where you may use plastic gloves is limited and as such had a camera but no latex gloves)

Lead prosecutor Viviana Fein defended her investigation. She acknowledged what the video captured but said it had no impact on the case.

"The crime scene was not contaminated. It was diligently preserved," Fein told Vorterix radio statio


Sorry, sounds like incompetency not a cover-up, a cover-up would make sure there would be no tape recording of the investigation.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,362 posts)
8. If the video shows cops cleaning a gun with toilet paper,
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 07:11 AM
Jun 2015

"stupidity" and "incompetence" are insufficient.

There's something more.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
10. It sounds like what they had to get the number
Tue Jun 2, 2015, 12:31 PM
Jun 2015

Remember the Police wanted to trace the Gun and to do that you need the Serial number. In fact if a murder had occurred, that number is more important then any fingerprint (i.e. you can find the owner of the gun and determine from that point who had the gun at the time of the Killing).

Sorry, as another poster say, if you are going by what they show on TV as Normal, you are living in a fantasy land. It looks good on TV, but it just does NOT occur in the real world. Going without gloves and doing what you can to read a serial number off a weapon is real world police work. 99% of the time, the serial number off the weapon is more important than any fingerprint. Worse, where serial numbers ARE, there are rarely fingerprints. Serial numbers are put in places where they can be read even when holding a weapon in your hands as if to shoot it. Thus rarely are serial numbers covered by fingerprints, and when they are, they can be days or even weeks old (and depending on when the weapon was last cleans years old), as oppose to fingerprints on the pistol grip and trigger.

Even the trigger is questionable, most triggers are to small to get a print with enough "points" to show who last pulled the trigger. Thus the key is the grip, and no one touched that part of the weapon.

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