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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:55 PM Jun 2015

Turkey's Erdogan: 'Jewish capital' is behind New York Times

Source: Ha'aretz

Turkey's President Recep Tayyip Erdogan lashed out at foreign media on Saturday, saying "Jewish capital" was behind the New York Times and that the British Guardian should "know its limits."

Erdogan's statements were made during a campaign rally for his AK Party, one day before the Turkish national elections, which could pave the way for the expansion of Erdogan's executive powers.

This prospect was viewed with concern by the New York Times and the Guardian in recently published editorials, titled "Dark clouds over Turkey" and "Growing autocracy threatens a crucial country," respectively.

Addressing the crowd at the eastern province of Ardahan on Saturday, Erdogan slammed the NYT, accusing it of a consistent stance against Turkey's leaders dating back to the days of the Ottoman Empire. "It's clear who their patrons are. There is Jewish capital behind it, unfortunately," Erdogan told the crowds, AFP reported.


Read more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.659931

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Turkey's Erdogan: 'Jewish capital' is behind New York Times (Original Post) oberliner Jun 2015 OP
Wow! this is the first time I've heard this accusation PCIntern Jun 2015 #1
After 62 years, I can guarantee you MurrayDelph Jun 2015 #8
We're the exact same age! PCIntern Jun 2015 #9
I thought the secret tax was hart burn R Merm Jun 2015 #12
You obviously have not seen the obscene food and beverage minimums at Jewish country clubs AngryAmish Jun 2015 #15
He is becoming more and more strident. potone Jun 2015 #2
When a national leader starts talking like that, his countrymen should grab their wallets amd purses Jack Rabbit Jun 2015 #3
When all else fails, blame "The Jews..." Archae Jun 2015 #4
It's a SECRET conspiracy DavidDvorkin Jun 2015 #20
Sadly this is hardly surprising iandhr Jun 2015 #5
So sad. Istanbul was known as a haven for Jews mainer Jun 2015 #6
Anti-Semitism looms over Turkey’s last Jews oberliner Jun 2015 #11
How long before Turkey has another military coup? Crowman1979 Jun 2015 #7
Nope. Erogan has neutered the army. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #16
Erdogan is getting more and more authoritarian LeftishBrit Jun 2015 #10
Authoritarian, weird conspiracy theory ridden, corruption that would make FIFA blush Bosonic Jun 2015 #13
I guess the Koch brothers were spying on him there. The Walls Have Ears! n/t freshwest Jun 2015 #14
No conspiracy is too weird for Turkey. AngryAmish Jun 2015 #17
Turkey is more like Saudi Arabia or Syria geek tragedy Jun 2015 #18
Turkey is a member of NATO...so, no, not even close. Fred Sanders Jun 2015 #19
Ah, a golden oldie! Behind the Aegis Jun 2015 #21

PCIntern

(25,568 posts)
1. Wow! this is the first time I've heard this accusation
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 03:58 PM
Jun 2015

since lunch today!!

Yup...No doubt. also the "Secret Jewish Tax On Food" which reminds me...I haven't received my check this month for the millions! gotta go check the mailbox!

potone

(1,701 posts)
2. He is becoming more and more strident.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:09 PM
Jun 2015

I think he must be afraid that the pro-Kurdish party will make the 10% threshold to get into Parliament and thus foil his plan to change the constitution. I certainly hope that they do; otherwise it will be disastrous.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
3. When a national leader starts talking like that, his countrymen should grab their wallets amd purses
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jun 2015

. . . and hide their draft age children in case he tries to create a distraction with a neighboring country.

Archae

(46,340 posts)
4. When all else fails, blame "The Jews..."
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jun 2015

I was arguing with a relative once, who was blaming "the Jews" for just about everything.

I floored him with a simple question:

"Which Jews?"

Because without an actual name or names, all they have is a faceless "enemy" they made up out of whole cloth.

That makes their arguments about "the Jews controlling everything" meaningless.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
6. So sad. Istanbul was known as a haven for Jews
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:30 PM
Jun 2015

Now Turkey has to deal with this crazy guy.

Turkey is a bit like the red state/blue state divide in the US. The western part despises Erdogan; the eastern part voted him in.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Anti-Semitism looms over Turkey’s last Jews
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:43 PM
Jun 2015

ISTANBUL – Neve Shalom Synagogue is tucked into a nondescript side street in what was once Istanbul’s lively Jewish neighborhood. Its façade is barely noticeable, dotted with black-suited security guards speaking into earpieces as they survey the perimeter.

“They try to keep a low profile,” said a security coordinator.

The synagogue was the scene of a number of terror attacks – most recently in 2003, when car bombs exploded here and at another Istanbul synagogue, claiming 27 lives.

Foreigners must submit their passport, pass through a security detector and walk through a maze of vault-like corridors before entering an almost empty prayer hall, where men pray powerfully to fill the thick silence.

Lara Hillel, a 26-year-old Istanbul native, recalls that attending services as a young girl at Neve Shalom, the city’s largest synagogue, was “always full of children and joy.” But on Yom Kippur this year, no more than a few dozen mostly white-haired worshippers were expected.

“For the Jewish people there is no life in Istanbul, but also I feel very Turkish and I want to live here all my life if it’s possible,” says Hillel, who was one of only three women at services on the eve of Rosh Hashanah.

Her ancestors, like most of Turkey’s Jews, sought refuge in the Ottoman Empire after expulsion from Spain in 1492. For centuries Turkey was a safe haven for Sephardic Jews, who thrived as merchants and traders.

“I think 500 years ago Turkey was more modern,” she says.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/.premium-1.618888

LeftishBrit

(41,208 posts)
10. Erdogan is getting more and more authoritarian
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/turkey-election-it-s-all-about-erdogan-and-expanding-his-power-1.3101860

And he is getting more and more blatant about it: attacking the media in other countries as well as his own; and expressing more and more brazen bigotry. This isn't the first time he's been anti-Semitic, but it's one of the nuttiest statements from him on those lines.

And he doesn't seem to like women much more than he likes Jews or foreigners:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/24/turkeys-president-recep-tayyip-erdogan-women-not-equal-men

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
13. Authoritarian, weird conspiracy theory ridden, corruption that would make FIFA blush
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 05:00 PM
Jun 2015

Turkey is in a nose-dive.

Cockroaches made me want new $615 mn palace: Turkey's Erdogan

Istanbul (AFP) - If cockroaches infest someone's house or office, they might put down some poison or maybe call in the pest-controllers.

But President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey had a more radical solution. The presence of cockroaches in his old offices, he revealed in an interview, were the reason why he needed a vast new presidential palace outside Ankara.

Erdogan's new $615 million presidential palace in the outskirts of Ankara has been ridiculed by the opposition as the tasteless and needless extravagance of an increasingly authoritarian leader.

But in an interview with A-Haber television broadcast late Friday, Erdogan said his reasons for needing the 1,150-room palace were much more mundane.He said his old offices when he was prime minister from 2003-2014 were infested with cockroaches.

http://news.yahoo.com/cockroaches-made-want-palace-says-turkeys-erdogan-150049344.html
 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
17. No conspiracy is too weird for Turkey.
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:01 PM
Jun 2015

Before there was Turkey there was the Ottoman Empire. And before them? Byzantium. And what word do we use to describe complex politics? Byzantine.

Erogan got into power mostly through the influence of the Gulen Movement. Ever hear of the Gulen Movement? They are a semisecret Turkish cult who happens to run the largest network of charter schools in the US. And Gulen lives in the Poconos (why he is not expelled as an undesireable alien is beside me, but he is connected to some US deep state interests also).

Gulen became a power by running a series of cram schools for the Turkish University System. He recruited smart and loyal students for decades and placed them into the government- police, secret services, prosecutors, tax authorities etc.

The Gulenists helped bring down the government before Erogan, exposing that sides endemic corruption. Erogan got in, they went after the generals, put some in jail and nuetered the rest.

Gulen and Erigan had a falling out in 2013. Erigan's corruption was revealed but Erogan was able to have a purge of a lot of Gulenists.

When Erogan said by cockroaches was a metaphor for the Gulenists in the building, plus their listening devices. A new one is to be built
With only loyalists in the building and hopefully without Gulenist listening devices.

The Republic of Turkey was founded by a conspiracy out of Masonic Lodges. Really.

Turkey is complez and weird. Conspiracies are everywhere.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
18. Turkey is more like Saudi Arabia or Syria
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 08:30 PM
Jun 2015

than it is like Germany or France.

Unless one looks back to the 1930's.

Behind the Aegis

(53,965 posts)
21. Ah, a golden oldie!
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 01:44 AM
Jun 2015

Some things never go out of vogue. It is a commonly held belief there and in many other groups.

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