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Omaha Steve

(99,635 posts)
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 05:57 PM Jun 2015

Spotted owl numbers not only down but also at faster rate

Source: AP

By TIM FOUGHT

PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Scientists report that after 20 years of attempts to save the species, northern spotted owl numbers in the Northwest are still on the decline — and at a faster rate.

The threatened bird nests in old trees and is at the heart of a decades-long struggle over the fate of the region's old-growth forests.

A Forest Service spokesman, Glen Sachet (SATCH'-et), says scientists at a conference Tuesday reported that owl numbers are now dropping at an annual rate of 3.8 percent. Five years ago, the rate was 2.8 percent.

Besides losing habitat, spotted owls in recent years have been pushed out by barred owls, an aggressive invader from the Midwest.

FULL short breaking story at link. Info on the Spotted Owl Here: http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Spotted_Owl/lifehistory





Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/4182543dd1d743d49a2feedc218a4c72/spotted-owl-numbers-not-only-down-also-faster-rate



About 20 years ago Rush said something like "No owl is worth the cost of one logging job". Could somebody look it up?
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Spotted owl numbers not only down but also at faster rate (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jun 2015 OP
Spotted Owls... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2015 #1
Sorry to hear it HassleCat Jun 2015 #2
Walking through the woods in the dark with a can of live mice pscot Jun 2015 #6
Night vs. Dy HassleCat Jun 2015 #9
Off topic, but you know a good bit about birds... Contrary1 Jun 2015 #3
New one on both Marta & I Omaha Steve Jun 2015 #4
Thanks! I edited my post above to include the quote you asked about. Contrary1 Jun 2015 #5
I love Owls. bigwillq Jun 2015 #7
How convenient. If we're stupid we'll use that to log areas that couldn't be logged due to owls. Gregorian Jun 2015 #8
 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
2. Sorry to hear it
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:03 PM
Jun 2015

Back in 1992, I was a "hooter." We went out into the forest and imitated the territorial call of a male spotted owl. If there was a male present, he would get all agitated and answer us. Within a couple minutes, he would be sitting on a low branch, checking us out. We then offered him a live mouse, and watched to see what he did with it. Yes, we carried a container of live mice with us. The spotted owl is a great "indicator species" because it's a high order predator, will respond to calling, and exhibits specific behaviors that tell researchers whether or not there is a mate and young owls. I'll see if I can find an old photo.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
6. Walking through the woods in the dark with a can of live mice
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:47 PM
Jun 2015

hooting like an owl. No photo. A photo would only spoil a mental image like no other. Thank you, on behalf of owls everywhere.

 

HassleCat

(6,409 posts)
9. Night vs. Dy
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 09:26 AM
Jun 2015

We did go out at night, but stuck to the forest roads. At night, we called and made estimates about the locations of any responses. Then we went back in the daytime, trying to locate the owls we heard at night.

Contrary1

(12,629 posts)
3. Off topic, but you know a good bit about birds...
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:04 PM
Jun 2015

So, can you tell what's going on with this one's feet/claws? He was spotted in Las Vegas earlier today.

Hope you are doing well.

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On edit: Here is the quote you might be thinking of...

"I once asked a long-haired maggot-infested FM-type environmentalist wacko: “Would you say the owl has evolved to a superior position over the mouse?” He answered, “Oh yeah, man, an owl can fly, he sees at night.”
So I have the environmentalist in a corner: “So it is not the responsibility of the mouse to adapt to the potential threat of the owl?” “Oh yeah, man, but that’s nature.” Well, there you have it, I told him. If the owl can’t adapt to the superiority of humans, screw it. If a spotted owl can’t adapt, does the earth really need that particular species so much that hardship to human beings is worth enduring in the process of saving it? Thousands of species that roamed the earth are now extinct.

Of course, we do care about owls. Why isn’t it possible for both of us to coexist in harmony? There’s no reason to put the timber business out of commission just because of 2,200 pairs of one kind of owl at the expense of 30,000 jobs. That’s the wrong set of priorities."

Omaha Steve

(99,635 posts)
4. New one on both Marta & I
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jun 2015

You might call a local bird group. We are stumped. We do appreciate being asked.

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
8. How convenient. If we're stupid we'll use that to log areas that couldn't be logged due to owls.
Tue Jun 9, 2015, 07:31 PM
Jun 2015

If we're smart we'll stop fucking with their environment. I hate to see beautiful old forests all painted up and ready to be stumps, like I did today. Oh well, got to have plywood. Plywood or owls, we decide.

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