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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:30 AM May 2012

Tomblin says he's uncertain whether he'll vote for Obama

Source: Charleston Daily Mail

CHARLESTON, W.Va. - Democrat Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin said he - like Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. - does not know if he will vote for President Barack Obama or Republican Mitt Romney in the fall.

"I do not believe that either candidate has a real understanding of what is important to West Virginia," Tomblin said Tuesday.

Tomblin said in statement released by his campaign that he was a "loyal member of the Democratic Party" but was concerned by fellow Democrat Obama's "misguided policies."

Still, Tomblin is also worried about Republican measures backed by Romney that could affect Medicare and Social Security, two programs crucial to West Virginia's 300,000 residents 65 and older.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.com/News/201205010245

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Tomblin says he's uncertain whether he'll vote for Obama (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs May 2012 OP
Like Giantsfootball10 May 2012 #1
Like? Are you kidding? Go back to freeper. xtraxritical May 2012 #22
Loyal, my foot. Daniel537 May 2012 #2
Besides... AlbertCat May 2012 #11
One thing I have wondered shawn703 May 2012 #3
*cough* Black man is President *cough* Yavin4 May 2012 #8
That's exactly it... one_voice May 2012 #30
Exactly madokie May 2012 #33
During the 2008 primaries, West Virginia was one of the few states that openly Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #16
DINO. Out, damned spot. Scuba May 2012 #4
Fools! Auntie Bush May 2012 #5
flaw... RitchieRich May 2012 #28
Tomblin and Manchin can both kiss my votes goodbye Hubert Flottz May 2012 #6
I'm with you on this Hubert Champion Jack May 2012 #9
So the DM in Charleston WV is ALSO RW trash, alp227 May 2012 #25
Spay or neuter your Blue Dogs. n/t Ian David May 2012 #7
I hate to come across like a Sensible Woodchuck, but the GOP alternatives are worse. Lasher May 2012 #20
If you want a permanent Democratic minority. Otherwise, be tolerant of those who will 24601 May 2012 #43
Without Massive, and I Mean Massive, Federal Spending W. Va Would Become Haiti Over Night Yavin4 May 2012 #10
West Virginia is a beautiful state but many people there are under the control ... Botany May 2012 #13
Neither Manchin Or Tomblin Care About The People Of West Virginia..... global1 May 2012 #17
Idiots. Rmoney will ruin everyone siligut May 2012 #12
Good Riddance! LynneSin May 2012 #14
I don't always agree with you... kenfrequed May 2012 #19
So you're wishing Bill Maloney on us. Lasher May 2012 #23
What I'm saying is we don't need his support to win in 2012 LynneSin May 2012 #26
I'm glad we don't. Lasher May 2012 #42
On a dens absolutely worst day and a repulse absolutely best day LynneSin May 2012 #44
Voting for president means the better candidate to lead the 50 states and U.S. territories, not just no_hypocrisy May 2012 #15
Aren't we all happy kenfrequed May 2012 #18
Posturing to his constituents. n/t Fearless May 2012 #21
Search the internet, find bad news about Democrats. Kingofalldems May 2012 #24
So we're supposed to cover our eyes Daniel537 May 2012 #27
The first line says it all nvme May 2012 #29
Effin right!!! The FIRST WORD pissed me off. KeepItReal May 2012 #31
I really think some places are just beyond redemption right now n2doc May 2012 #32
It's all true ... scribble May 2012 #34
I live in Georgia n2doc May 2012 #35
Courting the Ku Klux Klan (NT) The Wizard May 2012 #36
You should bring back your "blue dog" sig line image. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2012 #37
Pussy Thrill May 2012 #38
"Democrat Gov"…yeah, no. NYC Liberal May 2012 #39
I hope that the Democratic Party starts punishing politicians for this kind of behavior. yardwork May 2012 #40
Stick it where the sun doesn't shine should be the party's response... 47of74 May 2012 #41
 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
22. Like? Are you kidding? Go back to freeper.
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:00 AM
May 2012

VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT give the president a Congress!

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
2. Loyal, my foot.
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:36 AM
May 2012

I disagree with some of the Pres. policies too, doesn't mean i'm going to sit home or vote for the other guy, as if Romney is actually going to do anything to help the people of WV, which isn't exactly a wealthy state. Wish more people would actually vote their interest. Its a no-brainer.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
11. Besides...
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:10 AM
May 2012

..... they aren't running for President of West Virginia.

How about the whole country?

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
3. One thing I have wondered
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:37 AM
May 2012

With the Democratic party actually moving further right, why do some of these guys like Tomblin and Manchin all of a sudden think voting for Democrats is now a bad thing? They sure aren't threatening to vote for the Green party so it can't be a gripe against them moving too far to the right. What has become so intolerable with Democratic policies now that these guys need to vote Republican, when they seemed fine with them before Obama was in office? What's different about Obama compared to any other Democratic president in recent history?

one_voice

(20,043 posts)
30. That's exactly it...
Wed May 2, 2012, 01:19 PM
May 2012

I remember back in '08 they openly admitted they weren't gonna vote for a black man. They 'weren't ready for that'. Whatever the fuck that means.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
33. Exactly
Wed May 2, 2012, 01:33 PM
May 2012

these racist bastards piss me off too. I'm mostly white and I love my black President like no other President I've lived though these last 64 years.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
16. During the 2008 primaries, West Virginia was one of the few states that openly
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:29 AM
May 2012

admitted that race plays an important factor in the decision to vote for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama.

First, the Right Wing knew this. That's why they exploited race and pitted Hillary against Obama. That's why they supported her over Obama.

Second, it was the same on the Democratic Party side. The level of racism was amazing! And West Virginia is a representation of that.

So, no, it doesn't surprise me at all that Tomblin and Manchin won't vote for Obama. They need to be relelected.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. Fools!
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:41 AM
May 2012

WV is a POOR state! If either of these guys vote for the Ryan bill and deprive it's citizens of so much aid...they can kiss their asses goodby.

RitchieRich

(292 posts)
28. flaw...
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:34 AM
May 2012

your argument assumes citizens will vote based on self-interest, not on hate / ignorance. I assume their statements are in-genuine and meant only to parrot what the populace is receptive to.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
6. Tomblin and Manchin can both kiss my votes goodbye
Wed May 2, 2012, 09:57 AM
May 2012

Along with my wife's votes...

The "Friends Of Coal" are not friends of the people of West Virginia.

Edit...the Daily Mail is a Reich Wing Rag, but I believe this story is probably true.

Lasher

(27,660 posts)
20. I hate to come across like a Sensible Woodchuck, but the GOP alternatives are worse.
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:46 AM
May 2012

I've been warning all of you that Manchin is the worst DINO in the Senate. Worse than Lieberman even, who is now an independent. Manchin voted with Senate Republicans to block extension of the Bush tax cuts that excluded incomes above $250K, then voted with them to extend the version that included the wealthy elite.

If that isn't enough to convince you, then consider this: He is the only Senate Democrat who is a member of ALEC.

Tomblin is cut from the same cloth, as you can see in the OP article. But there's just nobody better to vote for.

Right now coal miners are being laid off, mainly because of the abundance of cheap natural gas. Miners blame Obama for these layoffs. Manchin and Tomblin are distancing themselves from him, hoping they can minimize the loss of coal miner votes.

I'm not making excuses for them. I'm telling you like it is. I hate our political climate. But trust me, you don't want wingnut extremist John Raese to replace Manchin in the Senate.

24601

(3,966 posts)
43. If you want a permanent Democratic minority. Otherwise, be tolerant of those who will
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:50 PM
May 2012

agree with you some times to avoid those who disagree with you all the time.

But then again, tolerance for diversity of opinion isn't exactly our strong suit, is it?

Yavin4

(35,453 posts)
10. Without Massive, and I Mean Massive, Federal Spending W. Va Would Become Haiti Over Night
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:07 AM
May 2012

A vote for Romney is a vote for the Paul Ryan budget which would gut W. Va.

This is a prime example of the working class and poor Whites thinking that everybody else benefits from government spending, and not them, so they vote Republican. Until, they find out that they indeed BENEFIT MORE than any other racial or ethnic minority.

Botany

(70,635 posts)
13. West Virginia is a beautiful state but many people there are under the control ...
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:16 AM
May 2012

.... of "their pastors" who fill their heads w/ hate and lies. Coal is also very strong
in West Virginia and people have been filled with lies that environmentalists are the
enemy and are costing them their jobs.

global1

(25,293 posts)
17. Neither Manchin Or Tomblin Care About The People Of West Virginia.....
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:34 AM
May 2012

all they care about is keeping their jobs.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
19. I don't always agree with you...
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:40 AM
May 2012

But in this case I completely agree.

We have spent too long reqarding fair-weather conservadems that stab us in the back whenever they get half a chance. Really, we should be hammering away the repukes but these fools would rather waste time and energy and give Romney some kind of credibility. Pathetic.

Lasher

(27,660 posts)
42. I'm glad we don't.
Wed May 2, 2012, 07:42 PM
May 2012

But I don't want my state to be another Wisconsin. Maybe such a thing is inevitable, I don't know. Big money makes sure just about every viable candidate - Republican and Democratic - is to their liking.

no_hypocrisy

(46,267 posts)
15. Voting for president means the better candidate to lead the 50 states and U.S. territories, not just
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:24 AM
May 2012

West Virginia. It's not a gubernatorial election.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
18. Aren't we all happy
Wed May 2, 2012, 10:37 AM
May 2012

That we supported such loyal Blue dog-shit. Seriously, these are the people that we are told again and again that we needed and once again we end up digging for the dagger in our back.

I have been intensely critical of the administrations polices and how the progressive left is being left out in an effort to appease jerks like these schmucks. The overwhelming majority of us will (despite what a few pretender trolls would have you believe) show up and vote for the president once more. But this is the kind of loyalty that the administration heaps rewards upon.

They should have taken a hard line against Evan Bayh's blue dog senate caucus back in 2009 and put them in line with a bit of executive leadership. If Rahm Emmanuel had actually been the tough guy he pretended to be he could have twisted a few arms and gotten to a progressive policy.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
27. So we're supposed to cover our eyes
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:30 AM
May 2012

and pretend stuff like this doesn't exist? Heh, i guess i prefer to live in reality.

nvme

(860 posts)
29. The first line says it all
Wed May 2, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

"Democrat Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin said he - like Sen. Joe Manchin",Obviously a Re-puke paper and reporter. If the first word of the reporters story is Democrat, then as a Democratic Party member, I realize the piece is attempt to diminish The president's re-election momentum.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
32. I really think some places are just beyond redemption right now
Wed May 2, 2012, 01:29 PM
May 2012

Most of Appalachia seems to be that way. Their hatred of blacks is so virulent that there is nothing Obama can do to gain their support. And they will continue to vote against their interests time and time again. I don't know what the answer is, but the answer is not to coddle them or pander to their interests. Ultimately if we continue to make inroads into Virginia, North Carolina, and the western states, they will be irrelevant.

scribble

(189 posts)
34. It's all true ...
Wed May 2, 2012, 01:56 PM
May 2012

West Virginians are pretty much racists. Their governor and new Senator are craven old-school Dixiecrat politicians. The Article was biased and gave away its bias in the first word in the story: "Democrat" instead of "Democratic."

But it's also true, that Obama's Republican-lite policies are not good for West Virginia; that Obama has done nothing at all in four years, to adjust his policies. It's why all of us (not just West Virginians) is still losing manufacturing jobs, still enduring a mortgage crisis, still supporting a financial industry that is preying on us, still paying too much for health care and education, still unable to unionize when we choose to.

Republicans are disgraceful, but Obama has had the hammer and he hasn't used it. I am disappointed in him.

In this case the Dixiecrat is right.

sc

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
35. I live in Georgia
Wed May 2, 2012, 02:05 PM
May 2012

So I know about dixiecrats. Here they just don't even bother with the democratic party much. And I do agree Obama hasn't done enough to help West Virginia, but I can't see Manchin voting for anything that would help, short of some sort of total cave in to coal mining interests that would boost that sector at the expense of the local and world environment. That's the real problem, as we saw with Health Care Reform, the blue dogs basically torpedoed any hope of a single payer or universal health care system.

yardwork

(61,748 posts)
40. I hope that the Democratic Party starts punishing politicians for this kind of behavior.
Wed May 2, 2012, 06:51 PM
May 2012

We would not hear a Republican governor say this about a Republican president up for reelection, or if we did, the Republican Party would come down like a ton of bricks.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
41. Stick it where the sun doesn't shine should be the party's response...
Wed May 2, 2012, 07:17 PM
May 2012

...next time Mr. Tomblin comes begging for money if that is going to be his attitude.

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