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Judi Lynn

(160,587 posts)
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 09:50 PM Jun 2015

Latest: Father of man linked to shooting says son was angry

Source: Associated Press

Latest: Father of man linked to shooting says son was angry
| June 13, 2015 | Updated: June 13, 2015 7:01pm

DALLAS (AP) — 6 p.m. (CDT)

The father of a man linked by authorities to an attack on Dallas police headquarters says his son had strong feelings against law enforcement.

Police said the suspect in the attack identified himself to them as James Boulware. The suspect was later shot and killed in his van by a police sniper. Authorities are not officially identifying the suspect pending a medical examination of the body.

The man's father, also named James, said Boulware spent several hours at the father's home in Carrollton, a Dallas suburb, a day before the shooting and talked about how well his recently-purchased van drove.

He also discussed a widely-publicized video of a police officer in McKinney, Texas pushing a black teenager to the ground and brandishing his gun at other teenagers. Boulware was angry after he lost custody of his son, now 12 or 13 years old, the father said.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/The-Latest-Dallas-PD-checking-to-see-if-suspect-6325354.php



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Latest: Father of man linked to shooting says son was angry (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2015 OP
A lot of gun nuts are like this guy. Hoyt Jun 2015 #1
Uh huh, suuure, GGJohn Jun 2015 #3
I'm preety sure ALL gun nuts are like this guy ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #6
Good point. I really don't have a problem with someone with a gun Hoyt Jun 2015 #10
Agreed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2015 #12
If there is a fire, the house burns down. Travis_0004 Jun 2015 #28
mostly correct sweetapogee Jun 2015 #31
Really? You "don't have a problem with someone with a gun"? NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #19
This shows the need for better training of gun owners... Human101948 Jun 2015 #26
I think most gun fanciers are about one bad day away from becoming Zimmerman, Dunn, Reeves, or worse Hoyt Jun 2015 #30
I don't own a gun and hope I will never have to. RiverNoord Jun 2015 #35
Anger should make you want to punch a pillow, not kill cops alboe Jun 2015 #2
+1000. eom. GGJohn Jun 2015 #4
Wow - that's some crack reporting! RiverNoord Jun 2015 #5
I had a similar thought. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #20
I suppose he could have theoretically been feeling quite calm RiverNoord Jun 2015 #34
Isn't this what we've all been taught the past several months??? ileus Jun 2015 #7
Yes, by the media and all the "fuck tha police" internet warriors. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #21
Not really JustAnotherGen Jun 2015 #27
Ironic how they try to piggy-back on black issues with cops BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #8
AKA: "White privilege" - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #24
The van was armored, and this idiot had taken precautions Calista241 Jun 2015 #29
When people become suicidal they also become homicidal vinny9698 Jun 2015 #9
Gun lovers will try to find an excuse Veldrick Jun 2015 #11
weapon licenses should be more strict johns877 Jun 2015 #13
Cool story bro. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #22
Glen beck/Alex Jones minion Doctor_J Jun 2015 #14
"soap box, ballot box, ammo box" DBoon Jun 2015 #15
This sounds like a classic case of "suicide by cop". He was angry, he went up against cops knowing peacebird Jun 2015 #16
I think that's exactly what it was. NaturalHigh Jun 2015 #23
Choked his mother and threatened schools two years ago. moondust Jun 2015 #17
I wonder moondust Jun 2015 #18
Yes, because all crazy gun nuts are from Texas snooper2 Jun 2015 #25
Texas is just an example. moondust Jun 2015 #32
I'm fucking pissed off too.. Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #33
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. Good point. I really don't have a problem with someone with a gun
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jun 2015

or two at home. A closet full, militia types, and carrying in public, are my concern.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. Agreed ...
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 10:16 AM
Jun 2015

Though, I don't even have a problem with people having 1,000s of guns ... in their home (though I would be concerned, should that house be next door to mine - I'm thinking about what if there's a fire). I have a major problem with guns in the public ... and a bigger problem with the mentality that promotes HAVING so many guns, especially when coupled with a/the need to carry them in public.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
28. If there is a fire, the house burns down.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jun 2015

There really is no problem with ammo in a fire. The noise is scary as shit. You can tell which firefighters have not experienced it before, as they are hesitant to go in. Anybody who has experienced it just goes right in like its nothing. If you were wearing a T-shirt, you could get some small bruises on your arm, but nothing that wont heal in a few days. A heavy firefighters jacket is more than enough protection. A guns barrel is designed to control the explosion and force the energy and the bullet down the barrel. A bullet in a fire just doesn't have the energy to do any harm.

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
31. mostly correct
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 02:28 PM
Jun 2015

I'm a volunteer firefighter in a semi-rural area. I would say that about half the dwelling fires we have feature some sort of ammo cook-off. It's more of an amusement than anything. What really concerns us is a roof or floor collapse or a propane tank BLEVE.

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
19. Really? You "don't have a problem with someone with a gun"?
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 07:13 AM
Jun 2015

Pretty much your entire posting history contradicts that statement.

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
26. This shows the need for better training of gun owners...
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 09:49 AM
Jun 2015

Follow the rules for safe gun use always...

When tempted to act out your anger by shooting up your home or town, always practice safe gun handling--

Put gun in mouth, gently squeeze trigger and blow your own fucking head off.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. I think most gun fanciers are about one bad day away from becoming Zimmerman, Dunn, Reeves, or worse
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jun 2015

They are all well trained, law abiding citizens right up until they are not.

For too many gun fanciers, what the look for in training is an explanation of the laws so they know when they can shoot someone, and what to say afterwards. Interestingly, right before Zimmie murdered Trayvon Martin, the Gungeon regulars had a thread going about what to do and say to keep yourself out of trouble after you shoot someone.

Too many folks go to training courses by folks like Massad Ayoob, who caters to scared white folks who think they are going to have to protect themselves from roving gangs. Gun training should be a lot more than going over the laws and shooting at targets that resemble humans. It ought to be like the driving course of old -- where you get to view photos of babies with a hole in their head, spouses shot in anger, Trayvon Martin, militia types training, etc.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
35. I don't own a gun and hope I will never have to.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 05:17 PM
Jun 2015

I did shoot a deer once as a youth, and the experience was awful. However, I have a good friend who is a major gun fancier. Interestingly, we're both very liberal and his gun hobby is something we discuss a lot. The thing is - I wouldn't have believed it until I met him, but at least one gun fancier is exceptionally smart, thoughtful, sound, sensible, friendly, and cares a great deal about the well-being of his family and friends. Not remotely racist, and he hates the NRA, but he really believes that the Second Amendment is all about protection from tyranny, which may always be on the horizon. I disagree with him on most levels of this issue, and I generally suspect that his arguments may simply provide him emotional cover to enjoy his hobby, but I also know him well enough to state with complete confidence that he'll never instigate any sort of gun violence.

This friend of mine just left a lucrative career in IT to become a HS physics teacher, which has been a dream of his for a couple of decades.

I've met more than a few gun nuts during my years as a lawyer, and, in my opinion, most of them simply assholes. However, I wouldn't extend the generalizations to the extent that you do. My experiences with gun nuts suggests otherwise.

I don't believe that the Second Amendment provides a clear individual right to own weapons. I believe that it is strongly conditioned by the 'well-organized militia' element of the Amendment. I am strongly in favor of interpretations of the Second Amendment that are more like interpretations of the First, with their distinctions between protected and unprotected speech. However, I believe that you are pretty far off base...

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
5. Wow - that's some crack reporting!
Sat Jun 13, 2015, 10:06 PM
Jun 2015

I'd call that one of the 10 most self-evident news headline titles of all time.

How about... "Fall from Sky Suspected in Airliner Crash," or maybe "Strong Indications that Child's Mother is a Female."

Sorry... Not a happy story, but the headline was a real zinger.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
34. I suppose he could have theoretically been feeling quite calm
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 05:01 PM
Jun 2015

and generally content when he set out to start a shoot-out at the local police station... That might have made a headline: "Shooter Described by Father as Happy, Laid-Back, 'Live and Let Live' Kind of Person.'

However, I'm thinking... 'angry' is a very safe bet.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
7. Isn't this what we've all been taught the past several months???
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:48 AM
Jun 2015

Aren't we all being taught by the media to hate LEOs?

JustAnotherGen

(31,834 posts)
27. Not really
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:00 AM
Jun 2015

I think depending on your American experience -

You've always had a distrust for law enforcement, the criminal justice system, etc. etc.

The media is simply reporting on people who have that mistrust/derision for the criminal justice system.

That's what's new - those voices are now being covered in the media.

If anything - I've seen for the past 2 - 2 and 1/2 years the media double down on it's protection of the status quo.

BTW - we are gun owners in my home.

BumRushDaShow

(129,228 posts)
8. Ironic how they try to piggy-back on black issues with cops
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:55 AM
Jun 2015

where after police chases like this case, blacks can get 130 shots fired into their vehicle once stopped because:

Police are trained to use deadly force to stop a suspect from using a vehicle as a weapon. They opened fire.

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/12/13_cleveland_police_officers_w.html


or they will fire at a minvan of black children... yet here, with someone with a vehicle that was essentially one big bomb, they waited almost 5 hours before shooting this guy.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
29. The van was armored, and this idiot had taken precautions
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 10:28 AM
Jun 2015

It's not like the Cops didn't shoot at him before he was killed. Their shots were just ineffective due to the countermeasures he'd taken.

They had to bring in a .50 cal sniper rifle to actually disable the van and shoot him. It's not like those grow on trees or everyone has one. The cheapest ones available cost nearly $10k.

Most police shootings are reactions to a developing situation. In those cases, the Cops are 99% likely to have the advantage in choice of arms and tactical training over their intended targets. In this case, the perp out-gunned the cops, and had armored his vehicle to reduce the chance of injuries to himself.

The fact that he was an idiot and didn't actually kill any of his intended targets is more dumb luck than anything else. African Americans are killed in greater numbers by the cops, but cops have not shown a fear of killing white people. I think most cop shootings are more of a power trip and the need to enforce their will on their subjects than anything else.

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
9. When people become suicidal they also become homicidal
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 09:11 AM
Jun 2015

This looks like a suicide by cop. He just gave up and wanted to go out with taking out the people he thought were responsible for his problems. If you look at all mass shootings, the shooters commit suicide after they inflict as much damage as they can.

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
15. "soap box, ballot box, ammo box"
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jun 2015

When the government does something you don't like, go ahead and kill them.

Watering the tree of liberty of the blood of tyrants and all that.

People who think they have been wronged by government actions are being taught to respond violently

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
16. This sounds like a classic case of "suicide by cop". He was angry, he went up against cops knowing
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 05:48 PM
Jun 2015

he would lose, and likely die.

moondust

(20,001 posts)
17. Choked his mother and threatened schools two years ago.
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 06:52 PM
Jun 2015
“We tried to get him mental help numerous times, but the system failed him, because he was declared ‘sane’,” she said in the statement. “He was very delusional. It was very obvious."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/14/dallas-police-shooting-james-boulware-mental-illness

And yet he still had plenty of guns and ammo and pipe bombs. Welcome to Texas!

moondust

(20,001 posts)
18. I wonder
Sun Jun 14, 2015, 08:14 PM
Jun 2015

if people in other states could sue Texas for endangerment? There's nothing saying these shooters have to stay in Texas to commit their crimes and Texas appears to be responsible for not stopping them.

moondust

(20,001 posts)
32. Texas is just an example.
Mon Jun 15, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jun 2015

Could possibly apply to any state that has an opportunity to take a lunatic off the streets but doesn't act and said lunatic then crosses state lines and commits a crime. Texas is a notable example because of the extreme gun culture there. Lunatics on the loose and weak or nonexistent gun control are a dangerous mix.

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