Activist Pulls Down Confederate Flag in Front of South Carolina Statehouse
Source: The Guardian
Activist pulls down Confederate flag in front of South Carolina statehouse
Police arrest unidentified woman after she climbed up the 30ft steel flagpole and removed the flag before returning to the ground
Alan Yuhas in New York
@alanyuhas
Saturday 27 June 2015 08.17 EDT Last modified on Saturday 27 June 2015 09.55 EDT
An activist in South Carolina climbed a flagpole in Columbia early on Saturday morning and removed the Confederate flag flying in front of the capitol building. The womans action came a day after President Barack Obama gave the eulogy for a black pastor who was murdered by an apparent white supremacist along with eight other people in a Charleston church last week.
A woman identified by a protest organizer as Bree Newsome, a 30-year-old youth organizer from Charlotte, North Carolina, climbed the flagpole before 6am and took down the controversial emblem of the antebellum, slaveholding south, with the assistance of another activist. Newsome was halfway up the 30ft pole when police demanded that she climb back down, but she continued upward and removed the flag.
Activist Mervyn Marcano told the Guardian that when Newsome returned to the ground she and James Ian Dyson were arrested by capitol police and taken to a detention center.
Police did not immediately respond to inquires about whether Newsome and Dyson had been charged, but CNN reported that the pair faced charges of defacing a monument.
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/27/woman-removes-confederate-flag-south-carolina-statehouse
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Seems more like "improving a monument."
wordpix
(18,652 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)She just removed it. She did not destroy the flag nor even take it. She simply moved it off the flag pole and gave it to the security. I can't imagine prosecutors getting a conviction for "defacing" on these facts. Trespass maybe, not defacing.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)She did what needed to be done. Activism is what it takes.
Defacing a monument. Ha!
sarge43
(28,941 posts)"Defacing a monument" aka displaying grace and courage that "leaders" wouldn't.
Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)monument', bringing the Carolina statehouse into disrepute.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)I will donate to their defense fund if it comes to that.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)would be burning the damned thing like is happening to black churches right now.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Michael Moore has offered to pay all costs.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 27, 2015, 11:07 AM - Edit history (2)
no lip service here...brave BREE NEWSOME!!!!!!! And James Ian Dyson
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Wah hooooooo!
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Bree Newsome:
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,593 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,124 posts)Powerful!
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)nolabear
(41,959 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)She looks dangerous, that one.
I'm thinking a super soaker loaded with corn liquor a trace down the pole and a match would be a fun way to deal with these flags.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)One person (two actually) standing up to oppression. Fighting the system the only way they can.
I so hope this goes to trial. A very public one.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)No way someone could climb that pole and carry the weight of a pair of giantic brass balls. I don't think the concrete pad holding the pole could support the weight.
I always enjoy adding people to my list of heros. Two more on the list.
BumRushDaShow
(128,881 posts)I saw malaise's GD thread and read the articles and posted still pics... as well as watched some video clips edited by the talking heads...
But this video - of just her and the audio of what she said at the top, and as she descended, was arrested, and was escorted away, literally broke me up.
I am going to honestly say that up here in Philly, I really don't see any Confederate symbols around - whether as a flag or bumper sticker or whatever, but I can see why my mother always said that she would "fly over the south" and refuse to set foot there (although we did take her to Atlanta about 15 years ago for a wedding, and got to see Ebeneezer Baptist church, the Civil Rights Museum, etc.). Here in Philly, we are "above the Mason Dixon Line" and were part of the salvation of so many who fled that evil and the symbol that more recently became the badge of honor for the evil-do-ers.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Brought tears to my eyes.
longship
(40,416 posts)She is one cool cat. The way she scaled that pole is amazing. And the way she politely refused to come down to the cops showed complete class.
I think Bree is my newest hero in a week with so damned many of them.
R&K
jwirr
(39,215 posts)the standards of treating a flag. No defacing or dragging it on the ground, etc.
longship
(40,416 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)she was so careful and then the cop walks off practically dragging it on the ground like he was holding an old dishtowel.
she was freakin awesome!!
snort
(2,334 posts)I would put it at toilet paper level. Would have been nice if they'd just burned it then and there.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)reminded me a bit of a dishtowel. i think i did read of some folks burning one in front of lee's statue....
jwirr
(39,215 posts)She is acting in the way that the people at the funeral were talking about. The black people are the peace makers in this situation. You keep the high ground when you have it in a fight.
snort
(2,334 posts)Agreed. This should be a Civil matter.
avebury
(10,952 posts)upheld in a court of law.
Attempted theft maybe, defacing a "monument" is way over reaching.
It is possible that the prosecutor may see the light of reason and drop the case. It will certainly not help South Carolina's reputation.
I respect their courage for standing up for what is right!
jwirr
(39,215 posts)enlightenment
(8,830 posts)the police were just doing their job - not that they were particularly inclined to agree with what they were doing. Their actions were casual, their treatment of the the woman and the man 'polite' (hard to say that putting someone in cuffs is polite, but they weren't cruel), and their treatment of the flag appropriate.
The Confederate Battle flag doesn't deserve standard flag etiquette - it wouldn't have bothered me if they had wiped their boots with it.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Got to hand it to her.
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gcomeau
(5,764 posts)Don't be a jackass.
TBF
(32,050 posts)Why don't you just say what you'd really like to say. Go ahead.
longship
(40,416 posts)Sheesh!
marym625
(17,997 posts)Do you only come here to be negative? Or have you posted positivity here and I just missed it?
She did not steal it so you can relax about that. They have it and can put it back up. But I am sure some other righteous person will come back and take it down again
Have a great day!
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I didn't see it touch the ground.
A helluva lot more respect than that flag deserves, too.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Volaris
(10,270 posts)People who are smart enough not to stay in the 'designated protest zone'
EvolveOrConvolve
(6,452 posts)for the closet racists to show themselves. Despicable...
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)You're a fucking idiot
frylock
(34,825 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I didn't get the hide, the other one did
heaven05
(18,124 posts)byronius
(7,394 posts)4-3? Who the fuck thought that comment was not ultra-boneheaded acid-blooded racist bullshit? What? WHAT?!?
Good lord this place weirds me out sometimes.
But not you. Good on you. Tell it.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)She was not doing it because she wanted that flag. Obvious.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)This is what democracy looks like in an age of tyranny.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Novara
(5,841 posts)Fuck you, Nikki Haley. This woman has a hell of a lot more guts than you do.
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)sarge43
(28,941 posts)The SC ledge can blame her now. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hoping for this, but she fooled them. She wasn't violent enough. As pointed out, she treated that rag with more respect than it deserves.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)or don't you understand that it will(it is back on the flagpole) or would have stayed up on some legal technicality like being a part of "southern pride" in the valor of their soldiers serving a treasonous and hateful system that kept people in bondage and tried to destroy the then united states in an effort to perpetuate that slavery..
candelista
(1,986 posts)Achieves nothing.
Hekate
(90,646 posts)candelista
(1,986 posts)No.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)a despised racist symbol from a flagpole?
SwankyXomb
(2,030 posts)is one less Dixie Swastika.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)All change, every revolution begins with one person saying "Enough!".
heaven05
(18,124 posts)showed courage and defiance in the face of state sanctioned racism and race inspired hate. What's been done in your neck of the woods to defeat racist hate, symbolically or otherwise? geez the nerve of some people when judging true active courage, not just armchair quarter backing.
BumRushDaShow
(128,881 posts)The virulent racism on DU is breathtaking.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,881 posts)Hekate
(90,646 posts)Makes me wonder why some people are here
Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Faux pas
(14,668 posts)totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)opportunity to put the issue behind them and once it was taken down by this brave woman just leave it down. But oh no, those idiots could not do the most prudent and logical thing so they hoisted that racist symbol back up again. Disgusting.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)so much for that kind of logical thinking
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)they deliberately made it a lot harder to get rid of it.
Novara
(5,841 posts)It would have been amazing if the groundskeepers - or whoever is in charge of that rag - refuse to put it back up. En masse. If all of the people who are responsible for the thing refuse to put it back up, would they really fire all of them?
candelista
(1,986 posts)It achieves nothing.
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Lets hope others consider such actions in a safe manner. Hope they tape it too.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)The next hurricane will finish the job.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)Check out her web page here
http://www.breenewsome.com/
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)This area can be so embarrassing...
alp227
(32,018 posts)This is why I disagree with the "take down the flag" activists. Great symbolism to take down the flag, but it won't change many minds in reality.
Charlie Brown
(2,797 posts)'"The flag was replaced with a new flag within about an hour and no further damage was done," the statement from officials said.'
all the trouble & technical issues we were told about lowering the flag like the others last week did not seem to be an issue after this happening. I think some of those guards were afraid it might not be put back if they didn't act fast.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)She didn't hurt their precious flag of hate--she gave it to cops when she came down off the pole.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)You can see the cops dragging it around like a painters drop cloth, and wadding it up like trash.
None of that is on Bree though.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)I kept thinking that someone should do exactly that. My plan was show up with a torch and down it comes.
I am glad she waited so the pot could come to a full boil.
Rough week to be on the right.
starroute
(12,977 posts)Friends of @BreeNewsome - I will pay her bail money or any legal fees she has. Please let her know this. #Charleston #TakeDownTheFlag
JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)For the rest of my life.
Demit
(11,238 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,813 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)to raise bail for Bree and James. So far zero has been donated.
http://dm2.gofund.me/y06wks
JustinL
(722 posts)$37,000+ raised so far
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/bail-for-bree-newsome/#/story
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)*"Activist Bree Newsome climbed a flagpole in front of the Columbia, South Carolina capitol building early on Saturday, June 27, 2015 and removed the Confederate flag flying in front of the building."*
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bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Jury nullification is a fine thing.
Her lawyer will have to work hard to keep white good old boys off of her jury.
stage left
(2,961 posts)VA_Jill
(9,965 posts)than Nimrata Haley showed. The governor could have ordered the flag taken down, even though the law says the legislature has to pass legislation for that. She doesn't even have the backbone to make that *symbolic* gesture...which, of course, does not surprise me in the least. She is little more than a cardboard cutout of a governor anyway.
madville
(7,408 posts)The law I looked up says a fine of no more than $100 and/or a sentence of no more than 30 days.
If anything she'll probably just get a small fine at the most, well worth it.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)cstanleytech
(26,284 posts)A day that would probably be remembered by more than a few is when the people who live in South Carolina (and not people who live in North Carolina like Bree according to the article.) vote on if they want the flag to remain where is as part of the states history or have it removed.
Edit: Though to be honest I dont care if they leave or if they take it down and shred it because much like the american flag its really just a piece of cloth in the end.
Novara
(5,841 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,881 posts)http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/27/south-carolina-confederate-flag-remove-activist-ferguson-action/29383973/
Jessie Jackson tweeted -
We thank God that @BreeNewsome had the courage to take the flag down! #KeepItDown #FreeBree
https://twitter.com/RevJJackson/status/614789669260148736
And another tweet on his feed is classic!
@RevJJackson "with BREEDOM & Justice for All..."
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I love all the voices saying "Ma'am. Ma'am? Ma'am!" as they realize what she's up there to do. Badass!
byronius
(7,394 posts)Really moving event.