Illinois governor: Shutdown worth pain if it brings change

[47of74]

Source: Telegraph Herald / Associated Press

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. — Gov. Bruce Rauner says a partial state government shutdown is worth the pain if it brings fundamental change to business and politics in Illinois.

The Republican told reporters this morning that "change is hard ... but we need to have change." Rauner addressed workers at the Illinois Emergency Management Agency one day before the state begins a new fiscal year without a budget agreement.

Rauner insists on changes he says will make it cheaper to do business and to free politics from corruption before agreeing with the Democratic-controlled legislature. Democrats say it's more important to have a budget in place so state services aren't interrupted.

Read more: http://www.thonline.com/news/iowa-illinois-wisconsin/article_a697eb30-1f3b-11e5-9ec3-03fdd370ab77.html

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In other words Rauner's going to do the political equivalent of spinning on his back in the Wally World parking lot.

[BumRushDaShow]

1. We are sortof going through that here in PA but in reverse

A (somewhat) teabagger state legislature and a Democratic governor with a budget that expires at midnight. Wolf has the option to veto the whole thing (which would mean shutdown) or do a line-item (which would keep services going). Last I saw, he hadn't decided yet.

[truebrit71]

2. Fuck Rauner

I despise that Richie Rich bullshit artist...

[AKing]

3. Rauner let a temporary tax increase expire after he took office. So in effect he cut taxes...

at the worst possible time. We wouldn't be in this mess if he hadn't done this. He's treating Ill like one of his venture capitalist businesses that eventually went bankrupt

[Chicago1980]

9. The democratic majority allowed it.

[CreekDog]

14. you're saying the Democrats have a veto-proof margin?

[former9thward]

15. Democrats control both House and Senate.

The tax expired Jan. 1. Republican governor did not take over until Jan. 12. Democrats had all last year to extend the tax. They declined to do it.

[CreekDog]

18. I asked if they had a veto proof margin, you've stated often here that you're a lawyer

so you're expected to understand that question.

[former9thward]

21. If Democrats controlled the legislature

and the governorship why would they need a veto-proof majority? Gov. Quinn said he wanted it extended. Where was the veto going to come from? The sky? Democrats 71, Republicans 47, not that it has any relevance to the issue. Speaker Madigan did not want it extended for election reasons.

You are trying to throw a red herring into the conversation. How unusual for you....

[apnu]

16. Yes they have the votes to override anything Rauner does.

That'w why he isn't strong arming anybody like Walker did in Wisconsin.

[CreekDog]

19. No, they do not have a veto proof majority in both houses

they're stronger in Illinois than in Wisconsin, but not veto-proof.

[former9thward]

22. Why didn't they extend it last year?

The tax expired Jan. 1, 2015.

[d_legendary1]

20. You sure?

According to the Chicago Tribune Rauner let those tax cuts expire cuz he wanted lower taxes (like every other Republican)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-illinois-income-tax-rate-falls-met-20141230-story.html

Welcome to DU by the way

[former9thward]

23. They expired Jan. 1

He did not take power until Jan. 12. He did not let them expire. Quinn did.

[d_legendary1]

29. I missed that detail

Thanks for keeping me honest.

[Nitram]

4. That is the right wing mantra. No pain no gain.

But they'll change their tune the first time they fail to raise the U.S. debt ceiling and find out what the economic consequences are. In the real world.

[47of74]

5. I've got my doubts about that.

I think for many Republicans they don't care about the economic consequences to us or the world. They think this country is theirs to rule by divine right and will hurt anyone or anything to achieve that goals.

[Nitram]

6. Once they lose the business community, they will have nothing.

And they know it. For all the fuss they make to get the evangelical vote.

[valerief]

25. I agree. If they cared, they wouldn't pull this bullshit in state after state.

They want the empire to fall so their owners can usurp it.

[randys1]

26. As long as others die or suffer, they dont care, republicans are psychopaths

[Oldtimeralso]

7. He is already running what I call antiimpeachment TV ads

I think Gov. Ruiner is the worst Governor Illinois has had (pardon the pun) bar none!

[TheCount_]

8. Meh

I got tired of hearing about these shutdowns. Like little kids taking their ball home. Back to work already, and stop the political ploys.

[AlRod]

10. Another Billionaire who bought the office

who's on his power trip at the suffering of the elderly, disabled, ill, children, etc.....

Where's the media on that?

He's the worst Governor we in Illinois have ever had, and I'm in my 60's.

Rauners a real tough guy.

[City Lights]

11. As if he would understand "the pain" that would come from a shutdown.

Jagoff.

I'm still somewhat dumbfounded that this fucker was elected Governor.

[AKing]

12. Thank the idiot voters who voted for someone who never laid out his plans

[City Lights]

13. I hear ya!

I hope they're happy now. Not.

[47of74]

24. He could lay out his real plans for all to see.

He would just have to add on one of the following and the rubes would vote for him;

- "I hate the black guy (The President)!"
- "I'll ban abortion!"
- "I'll stop the gays from getting married!"

[murielm99]

17. Whose pain? Not his.

The Ruiner won't be suffering. He can go hide in one of his nine mansions.

[roamer65]

27. Do the Dems have enough votes to override his vetoes?

If they do, they should go "parliamentary" on his ass. Override everything he refuses to sign.

[47of74]

28. I think so.

It looks like they have the 60% threshold in both chambers to be able to override his vetoes.

I think Ruiner is looking at his neighbor Governors to the east (Indiana) and north (Wisconsin) and to a lesser extent the one in the west (Iowa) and feels that he has to be a big time GOP badass so he doesn't get primaried.