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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2015, 11:58 PM Jul 2015

Trump defends inflammatory comments, asks 'Who is doing the raping?'

Source: cnn

On Wednesday, Trump, who is a Republican presidential candidate, told Lemon he was pulling his facts from a Fusion article.
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"Well if you look at the statistics of people coming, you look at the statistics on rape, on crime, on everything coming in illegally into this country it's mind-boggling!" he told Lemon, in a clip previewed on CNN's "Situation Room."

"If you go to Fusion, you will see a story: About 80% of the women coming in, you know who owns Fusion? Univision! Go to Fusion and pick up the stories on rape. It's unbelievable when you look at what's going on. So all I'm doing is telling the truth," Trump said.

Lemon replied that the press stories are about women being raped, but not about criminals coming across the border.


"Well, somebody's doing the raping, Don! I mean somebody's doing it! Who's doing the raping? Who's doing the raping?" he asked

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-immigrants-raping-comments/index.html



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Trump defends inflammatory comments, asks 'Who is doing the raping?' (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 OP
Can this guy get any creepier? daleanime Jul 2015 #1
Not to me he can't passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #9
Not even if he contracted the creepiness out and hired an apprentice. marble falls Jul 2015 #16
...... daleanime Jul 2015 #21
Trump is just getting a jump on the other clowns..takin'' down asiliveandbreathe Jul 2015 #2
Ultimately Mira Jul 2015 #3
Oh good. Within 24 hours, he doubled down. His candidacy will be delicious. nt silvershadow Jul 2015 #4
Took Chief Wiggum's advise, I see 47of74 Jul 2015 #5
So The Donald is doubling down on the jackassery with "facts" pulled out of his butt Hekate Jul 2015 #6
Jackassery — nice word brush Jul 2015 #19
LOL Be my guest. I got it from my son, who used it regarding his last employers.... Hekate Jul 2015 #37
Sig line writes itself: dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #66
And he is Ann Coulter's favorite candidate this primary season. She said so on tblue37 Jul 2015 #40
Good grief. Demographics are against them both, I'm glad to say. Their constituency is dying off... Hekate Jul 2015 #43
Damn Solly Mack Jul 2015 #7
Well... DrToast Jul 2015 #8
Trump has been raping U.S. taxpayers for years with all of his bankruptcys. Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #59
Economically it's people like you Trump that are raping us. davidpdx Jul 2015 #10
Just part of the new GOP-Latino outreach hahahahahahahaha n/t cosmicone Jul 2015 #11
The gift that just keeps giving.... Hulk Jul 2015 #12
Republicans Are Talking About Rape Again bucolic_frolic Jul 2015 #13
"Stop raping people" MicaelS Jul 2015 #22
He died less than a month after that, huh? PersonNumber503602 Jul 2015 #25
Yepper, sure did. N/T MicaelS Jul 2015 #26
heh.. I noticed I said "less than a mother after this..." PersonNumber503602 Jul 2015 #36
Terrifically angry. N/T MicaelS Jul 2015 #46
The Art of the Derp Frank Cannon Jul 2015 #14
He's one of those people who has never been told "NO!". MicaelS Jul 2015 #50
I'm pretty sure rapists come in all types IronLionZion Jul 2015 #15
Keep digging, Donald! tanyev Jul 2015 #17
his daughter must be hiding her head in shame mainer Jul 2015 #18
Even I didn't think Trump was this dumb brush Jul 2015 #20
Double Down, Donald! JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #23
Remarkably, he's polling 2nd in Repblican polls currently. I never KingCharlemagne Jul 2015 #24
I would hope it's just name recognition. maddiemom Jul 2015 #32
In an open-primary I'd vote for this jackass in a New York minute ... 66 dmhlt Jul 2015 #27
Agreed... If only we could trust the fairness/legitimacy of the voting process and equipment! Nt JudyM Jul 2015 #33
Trump has already disqualified himself among republican powers that be HFRN Jul 2015 #28
No President Should Say Anything! serbbral Jul 2015 #38
Stupid runs deep in "the Donald"... Blue_Roses Jul 2015 #29
I smell bankruptcy #5 truthisfreedom Jul 2015 #30
I'm sure he doesn't mean bucolic_frolic Jul 2015 #31
The Fusion article referenced by Trump: candelista Jul 2015 #34
Coyotes?? (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2015 #45
Not like Wile E. Coyote, but the slang term for human smugglers. tclambert Jul 2015 #49
Exactly. He's twisting it into "rapists are coming here" arcane1 Jul 2015 #51
Well, rape victims and their some of their rapists are coming here. candelista Jul 2015 #58
Of course he is. Stupid question. arcane1 Jul 2015 #65
Keep up the good work-Donald Gothmog Jul 2015 #35
trump fails logic 101 - you can be stupid and still rich samsingh Jul 2015 #39
Pure comedy gold. eggplant Jul 2015 #41
Based on what I know, lark Jul 2015 #42
This guy is a total idiot. Beacool Jul 2015 #44
The Donald is number 1 Angry Dragon Jul 2015 #47
He does seem to be an expert on it rpannier Jul 2015 #55
"Who's doing the raping?" Would that be the 1% raping the whole wide world, Don? tclambert Jul 2015 #48
Forgive me, I'm not fluent in moron IrishEyes Jul 2015 #52
65% of rapists are white XemaSab Jul 2015 #53
There is no Hispanic category in that table EL34x4 Jul 2015 #68
This is for all violent crimes, from the DOJ TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #76
In a logical argument the responsibility is on the person making the assertion rpannier Jul 2015 #54
He cited Fusion Magazine. Here is their video report. candelista Jul 2015 #61
He incorrectly cites the Fusion report rpannier Jul 2015 #62
You've already lost your cred. candelista Jul 2015 #63
Base sets who the candidate is and frankly trump does well with them dembotoz Jul 2015 #56
That man is insane! Caretha Jul 2015 #57
don't they say a lot of men are addicted to internet porn? this very topic he obsesses over, someone Sunlei Jul 2015 #60
Here's what scares me about Trump. AngryOldDem Jul 2015 #64
I hope he gets the Republican nomination. We will win. yardwork Jul 2015 #67
He seems oblivious to his "negatives" TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #70
The big lie fools more often than little lies. yardwork Jul 2015 #71
Indeed. He must be a fan of Hitler TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #72
Yes, as a matter of fact. We saw that when w was president. yardwork Jul 2015 #73
Yup, highly successful psychopaths TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #74
They can go far but I think Trump blew it. yardwork Jul 2015 #75
GOP = greedy oblivious prick. nt valerief Jul 2015 #79
Who's doing the raping? BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2015 #69
Every circus needs a clown MissMillie Jul 2015 #77
There are a lot of women and children coming accros the border - are they rapists Dopey Donald? George II Jul 2015 #78
Who is doing the killing? Rich people, Donald! douggg Jul 2015 #80

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
2. Trump is just getting a jump on the other clowns..takin'' down
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015

the republican party - where do they go from heah??? But then, I really don't care..they have to live with him..we don't - fodder for the late night shows...

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
6. So The Donald is doubling down on the jackassery with "facts" pulled out of his butt
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:43 AM
Jul 2015

I don't know whether he makes some of the other candidates actually look better than they are, or just makes the whole party look gawdawful.

He's such a blustering bully I'm going with the latter.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
37. LOL Be my guest. I got it from my son, who used it regarding his last employers....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:39 PM
Jul 2015

After he got his current job, where his competence stands out. Sometimes things work out well.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,157 posts)
66. Sig line writes itself:
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 02:15 PM
Jul 2015

"Somebody is doing the raping. who's doing the raping!?"....Jack Assery

tblue37

(68,422 posts)
40. And he is Ann Coulter's favorite candidate this primary season. She said so on
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:33 PM
Jul 2015

"Real Time." The central claim of her new "book" is that Latino immigrants, especially Mexicans, are ruining this country. She also says that the GOP should forget about appealing to minorities and just focus on the white voters.

Like Trump, her career path consists of trolling for ego satisfying publicity, which also brings in money from a RW audience that loves the red meat Coulter and Trump keep tossing to them.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
43. Good grief. Demographics are against them both, I'm glad to say. Their constituency is dying off...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:36 PM
Jul 2015

I'm here to say there are a lot of white Democrats, even among people my age. Women prefer Democratic policies. Millennials are more liberal, but need to be shown the party that represents them is the Democratic Party. Minorities will soon have to be called something else because they will shortly be in the majority, and they tend to be Democratic.

That leaves how many old, bitter, white men to vote for the GOP, which looks more retrograde, racist, and loony by the day?

Now all we Dems have to do is make our policies clear, remove the many barriers to voting erected by the GOP, register Democrats, and GOTV.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
8. Well...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:10 AM
Jul 2015

Has Trump been accounted for when the raping has taken place?

Just saying...somebodies doing it!

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
59. Trump has been raping U.S. taxpayers for years with all of his bankruptcys.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:52 AM
Jul 2015

Does anyone know how much we have had to bail him out for? Where is the press on a Presidential candidate who has had to repeatedly file bankruptcy? Taxpayers have an arse the size of the Lincoln tunnel thanks to that Orangutan!

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
12. The gift that just keeps giving....
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:41 AM
Jul 2015

What a complete clown. I mean, the rest of them are "clowns" in oh so many ways. Even ted born-in-Canada cruz isn't this bat shit crazy. Close, but trump has him beat by a pretty good measure.

I LOVE this idiot. Just keep talking, donnie.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
36. heh.. I noticed I said "less than a mother after this..."
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jul 2015

At least you got what I meant. He seemed like a very angry man.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
14. The Art of the Derp
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:29 AM
Jul 2015

Has he had a stroke or something? I mean, he's always been a piss-poor businessman, but he's
always seemed somewhat savvy about public relations. Now it's like he's completely lost his mind.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
50. He's one of those people who has never been told "NO!".
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:08 PM
Jul 2015

Because of his wealth. And he does not know how to handle people doing so.

IronLionZion

(51,203 posts)
15. I'm pretty sure rapists come in all types
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 07:19 AM
Jul 2015

The problem is rape, not where someone came from, asshat

mainer

(12,549 posts)
18. his daughter must be hiding her head in shame
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:12 AM
Jul 2015

Ivanka seems like a sensible lass. Daddy's embarrassing her again.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
20. Even I didn't think Trump was this dumb
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:32 AM
Jul 2015

He's blown four business deals in a blink, one with Carlos Slim, the richest man in Mexico.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
24. Remarkably, he's polling 2nd in Repblican polls currently. I never
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:02 AM
Jul 2015

thought we'd see a worse clown than Reagan acquire gravitas, but I may have to rethink that position.

maddiemom

(5,178 posts)
32. I would hope it's just name recognition.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jul 2015

Still waiting for the absolute proof "his people" dug up (he guaranteed) about the POTUS's real birthplace. Not only is his wealth the only reason anyone pays attention to him; without it, he'd have been locked away in a mental facility long ago.

66 dmhlt

(1,941 posts)
27. In an open-primary I'd vote for this jackass in a New York minute ...
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:10 AM
Jul 2015

I'd LOVE to see "The Donald" as the Repubican candidate!

And if I can help make it happen, I will!

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
33. Agreed... If only we could trust the fairness/legitimacy of the voting process and equipment! Nt
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:48 AM
Jul 2015
 

HFRN

(1,469 posts)
28. Trump has already disqualified himself among republican powers that be
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:12 AM
Jul 2015

because I think, whatever one might think about either party, that there is at least a core in each one, that wishes to avoid getting into an *unintentional* war (Iraq was anything but)

and Trump is just too unrestrained - no president is ever free to say whatever they want, whenever they want, responsibility conflicts with that

serbbral

(333 posts)
38. No President Should Say Anything!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 01:21 PM
Jul 2015

Speaking of 'not saying everything that come to mind' and changing the subject a bit, I wonder WILL Chris Christi (msp?) hold his tongue, now that he's in the race? LOL! This race is going to be interesting!

bucolic_frolic

(55,032 posts)
31. I'm sure he doesn't mean
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 10:31 AM
Jul 2015

the financial and environmental variety

Pointing the finger is a tactic to focus attention elsewhere

The longer the bluster carries on, the less possibility someone
will comment on his hair

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
34. The Fusion article referenced by Trump:
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 11:07 AM
Jul 2015
Headlined, “Is rape the price to pay for migrant women chasing the American Dream?” the 2014 piece, written by Erin Siegal McIntyre and Deborah Bonello, found that “a staggering 80 percent of Central American girls and women crossing Mexico en route to the United States are raped along the way.” According to Fusion’s reporting, “perpetrators can be coyotes, other migrants, bandits, or even government authorities.”

The article highlights the horrific plight that female migrants face during their journeys north to the United States. The authors quote one lawyer who has worked helping women along the Mexico-Guatemala border as saying, “[These migrants] know the price to pay for getting to the United States. The price is being sexually violated.”


http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-completely-misread-fusion-article-about-immigration-and-rape/

tclambert

(11,191 posts)
49. Not like Wile E. Coyote, but the slang term for human smugglers.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 04:27 PM
Jul 2015

From wiktionary:

coyote (plural coyotes)
1. Canis latrans, a species of canine native to North America.  [quotations ▼]
2. A smuggler of illegal immigrants across the land border from Mexico into the United States of America.

Pretty sure the article means definition 2. Pretty sure. But don't tell Trump about the coyote rapists. He may want to exterminate all dogs.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
51. Exactly. He's twisting it into "rapists are coming here"
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:12 PM
Jul 2015

When the article shows it's more like "rape victims are coming here".

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
58. Well, rape victims and their some of their rapists are coming here.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 12:14 AM
Jul 2015

Is an illegal immigrant not a rapist if he rapes an illegal immigrant woman?

lark

(26,068 posts)
42. Based on what I know,
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jul 2015

college kids are doing the most raping not immigrants. Total fail, but hey, at least he's consistently 100% wrong. What a buffoon. What a joke that he's #2 in NH. Go on, GOP, nominate him, I dare you!

Beacool

(30,514 posts)
44. This guy is a total idiot.
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 02:44 PM
Jul 2015

He makes up facts and when confronted with the truth he still doubles down and insists that he is right. No matter how many people have pointed out to him that what he said was not only insensitive and racist, but not even factually correct, he continues to state that he has the truth on his side.

The fact that he has climbed to second place on the Republican polls proves once again that the GOP is populated mostly by ignorant, bigoted and racist fools.

IrishEyes

(3,275 posts)
52. Forgive me, I'm not fluent in moron
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 06:51 PM
Jul 2015

What is he talking about? What does that mean? Is he saying that immigrants are doing the raping? What...just..what?

The republicans need to stop being so unbelievably stupid. Trying to figure out their insane logic makes my brain hurt.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
68. There is no Hispanic category in that table
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jul 2015

Only white, black, American Indian and Asian. The FBI lumps Hispanics into the "White" category.

Just clarifying.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,195 posts)
76. This is for all violent crimes, from the DOJ
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:04 PM
Jul 2015


Rape is considered a violent crime, along with murder, voluntary manslaughter and aggravated assault.

Now, you really have to compare the crime statistics to our racial demographics.

White - 63.7%
Black - 12.2%
Hispanic/Latino - 16.4%
Other - 7.7%

Hispanics are committing about 10% more violent crimes than one would expect, based on their % of the population.

rpannier

(24,913 posts)
54. In a logical argument the responsibility is on the person making the assertion
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 08:29 PM
Jul 2015

not on the critic
Trump is required to supply the evidence to back up his assertion

Otherwise...
Who's doing the raping? You know so much about it, ergo it must be Trump

rpannier

(24,913 posts)
62. He incorrectly cites the Fusion report
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jul 2015

donald slump claims that the rapists are coming across into the US. The report is about women being raped on the way, not women in the US being attacked by rapists. So he still fails the logical argument

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
57. That man is insane!
Thu Jul 2, 2015, 09:21 PM
Jul 2015

Somebody needs to take that weird hair of his and comb through it for lice or alien nano bots causing severe brain damage.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
60. don't they say a lot of men are addicted to internet porn? this very topic he obsesses over, someone
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 08:01 AM
Jul 2015

should ask Trump where he has -seen- his 'facts'.

AngryOldDem

(14,180 posts)
64. Here's what scares me about Trump.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 11:30 AM
Jul 2015

And maybe I just need to be "talked down from the ledge."

It seems that with every passing day, his poll numbers are growing. I'm afraid that the more he jacks his jaw and drives sponsors and others away in droves, that will just reinforce his popularity among those who think the "lamestream media" and other "lefties" are just out to get him because he's obviously "speaking the truth".

I see him as another Palin, only difference being he is smarter in that he knows how to manipulate the spotlight to keep his ugly mug front and center. The fact that he is currently second and will most likely be at the debate is galling, and to me somewhat frightening.

I hope he fades fast, or gets bored with the whole thing and moves on. But something tells me he may be around for awhile as the sheeple rally around their new "hero".

TexasBushwhacker

(21,195 posts)
70. He seems oblivious to his "negatives"
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:22 PM
Jul 2015

In no particular order:

He's been married 3 times, to progressively younger women.

His companies have gone through Chapter 11 bankruptcy 4 times.

That ridiculous hair.

His long history of racism.

He was sent to a military school when he was 13 and graduated in 1964, which means he should have been drafted. But he got the deferments for going to college.

He lies about his net worth. Forbes says he's worth a not too shabby $4 Billion. But The Donald says he's worth twice that. He was also investigated by the SEC and settled out of court.

He's a litigious asshole. He sued Bill Maher for saying his father was an orangutan. Now he says he's going to sue Univision for $500 Million even though the contract was only worth $13 Million.

He says "China is our enemy" but all of his Trump line of clothes at Macy's were made overseas, including China. He also imported Chinese building materials like drywall to build his casinos and other real estate developments, because it saved him money.

And those are just the things that I can think of off the top of my head.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,195 posts)
72. Indeed. He must be a fan of Hitler
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:39 PM
Jul 2015

From the OSS psychological profile of Hitler:

"His primary rules were: never allow the public to cool off; never admit a fault or wrong; never concede that there may be some good in your enemy; never leave room for alternatives;never accept blame; concentrate on one enemy at a time and blame him for everything that goes wrong; people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it."

Can you imagine what the rest of the world would think of the U.S. if we elected a bufoon like Trump (or Cruz or anyone else in the clown car)?

TexasBushwhacker

(21,195 posts)
74. Yup, highly successful psychopaths
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:53 PM
Jul 2015

Glibness and superficial charm

Grandiose sense of self-worth

Pathological lying

Cunning/manipulative

Lack of remorse

Emotional shallowness, callousness and lack of empathy

Unwillingness to accept responsibility for actions

A tendency to boredom

A parasitic lifestyle

A lack of realistic long-term goals

Impulsivity, irresponsibility, lack of behavioural control, behavioural problems in early life, juvenile delinquency, criminal versatility, a history of “revocation of conditional release” (ie broken parole)

Multiple marriages, and promiscuous sexual behaviour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/books/10737827/Psychopaths-how-can-you-spot-one.html

I think Trump outwardly shows more psychopathy than Bush, which really scares me when they say he's #2 in the polls.

yardwork

(69,304 posts)
75. They can go far but I think Trump blew it.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:56 PM
Jul 2015

Latinos are a powerful group.

Lol! I'm here at my in-law's for July 4. Very patriotic successful family. Conservative. Hispanic heritage. Not going to be impressed with Trump. 😉

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
69. Who's doing the raping?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jul 2015

Ummm....men.

Think Trumpet-ass will address that? Naw, I'd bet he's against the Violence Against Women Act.

George II

(67,782 posts)
78. There are a lot of women and children coming accros the border - are they rapists Dopey Donald?
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 06:05 PM
Jul 2015
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