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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:31 PM Jul 2015

Former Disney Chief Michael Eisner: A Woman Who Is Funny and Beautiful Is "Impossible to Find"

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by TexasTowelie (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Hollywood reporter

"In the history of the motion-picture business, the number of beautiful, really beautiful women — a Lucille Ball — that are funny, is impossible to find."

Michael Eisner thinks that funny, beautiful women are hard to find.

That's what the former Disney CEO told an audience Thursday at the Aspen Ideas Festival, according to The Atlantic.

During an onstage conversation with Goldie Hawn, he theorized on why she'd been so successful: "From my position, the hardest artist to find is a beautiful, funny woman. By far. They usually—boy am I going to get in trouble, I know this goes online—but usually, unbelievably beautiful women, you being an exception, are not funny."


Read more: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-chief-michael-eisner-a-806748

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Former Disney Chief Michael Eisner: A Woman Who Is Funny and Beautiful Is "Impossible to Find" (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 OP
My ex beamoans the fact that this funny and beautiful woman divorced him. msanthrope Jul 2015 #1
Same here. Warpy Jul 2015 #2
picture and proof of humor wilt the stilt Jul 2015 #9
What a maroon... peacebird Jul 2015 #3
he is getting big backlash on intertubes Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #4
Now that's what I call fucking goofy. Orrex Jul 2015 #5
isn't that why wendylaroux Jul 2015 #14
It was Mickey in divorce court jberryhill Jul 2015 #23
Love it!!! nt wendylaroux Jul 2015 #28
Ok Flatpicker Jul 2015 #6
He does come from the funniest cultural group wilt the stilt Jul 2015 #7
A stereotype is a stereotype even if it is not insulting. R Merm Jul 2015 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Jul 2015 #8
I've also heard that about CEOs Evergreen Emerald Jul 2015 #10
and you would know that because? wilt the stilt Jul 2015 #13
umm how is this news? sounds like lounge material to me nt msongs Jul 2015 #11
You are right, either that or the general forum at the least davidpdx Jul 2015 #27
Depends on the humor. Never cared for the Lucille Ball/Jerry Lewis/3 stooges type of humor. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #12
It's hard to find a "Lucille Ball" tazkcmo Jul 2015 #15
Marilyn Monroe, anyone? She was an awfully good comedienne. hedda_foil Jul 2015 #16
Idiot. Funny handsome men are just as hard to find--but Hollywood does not demand men look good. McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #17
Sofia Vergara, Jennifer Aniston, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Anna Faris, Emma Stone, Mila Kunis, tclambert Jul 2015 #18
Great list. Thank you. kwassa Jul 2015 #25
Name one funny woman who isn't beautiful then? bhikkhu Jul 2015 #19
Roseanne. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #21
She is one possibility bhikkhu Jul 2015 #22
To be fair, I can't think of many truly beautiful male comedians. Drunken Irishman Jul 2015 #20
Also to add to the list.... Moonwalk Jul 2015 #26
oh I don't know PatrynXX Jul 2015 #29
course before I insert a foot PatrynXX Jul 2015 #31
I'll never understand the fixation with ascribing "exceptional beauty" to people renegade000 Jul 2015 #30
Please, Mr. Eisner. Do womankind a favor. Stay away. Too bad all those millions didn't help. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #32
Locking thread. TexasTowelie Jul 2015 #33
 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
1. My ex beamoans the fact that this funny and beautiful woman divorced him.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:35 PM
Jul 2015

I suspect Jane Eisner and I could share some stories....

Warpy

(114,671 posts)
2. Same here.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:41 PM
Jul 2015

The problem with Eisner is that his definition of "funny" is likely far too narrow to appreciate humor with more subtlety than physical, pie-in-the-face humor. I see that a lot in men who think women can't be funny. What leads me to this conclusion is his focus on Lucille Ball, who specialized in physical humor in her TV shows but was a hard headed businesswoman off screen.

You and I and probably Jane appreciate humor that would fly right over his pointed little head.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
9. picture and proof of humor
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jul 2015

please

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
3. What a maroon...
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jul 2015
 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
4. he is getting big backlash on intertubes
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:51 PM
Jul 2015

Orrex

(67,392 posts)
5. Now that's what I call fucking goofy.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jul 2015

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
14. isn't that why
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:19 PM
Jul 2015

Minnie Mouse got fired?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. It was Mickey in divorce court
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:56 PM
Jul 2015

"No, your honor, I didn't say she was strange, I said she was fucking Goofy."

wendylaroux

(2,925 posts)
28. Love it!!! nt
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:29 AM
Jul 2015

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
6. Ok
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:53 PM
Jul 2015

I would also believe that funny and beautiful men are hard to find too.

From the position that Eisner is looking at.
Most beautiful men/women come from the modeling industry.
A good portion of models aren't the best actors, but can be a lead if they have strong supporting casts.

Humor, mainly comes from the those who have some very good acting chops and good timing. Not usually from the leads.
Hawn pulled it off by playing to the misconceptions of the culture.

I could say there are 5 women who historically combined both.

Gar
Hawn
Ball
Peters
Kahn

Sad to say, I don't see those skills in most of the actresses today. Though I may give Anna Faris some credit, because she allows herself to look less than perfect for the sake of the joke.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
7. He does come from the funniest cultural group
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jul 2015

jewish people and especially New York jewish people so i imagine he has some understanding of humor. having grown up with jewish guys they are funny and they are incredibly quick witted. Jon Stewart is no accident. He is obviously making a generalization but one that for the most part accurate. Instead f being politically correct an just immediately being on the defensive and think about it he is pretty accurate.

R Merm

(444 posts)
24. A stereotype is a stereotype even if it is not insulting.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

Response to Liberal_in_LA (Original post)

Evergreen Emerald

(13,096 posts)
10. I've also heard that about CEOs
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:06 PM
Jul 2015

You cannot find a head of a corporation who is good looking AND smart. And sometimes Michael, you find one that is neither.

 

wilt the stilt

(4,528 posts)
13. and you would know that because?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:13 PM
Jul 2015

He was pretty damn successful running Disney.

msongs

(74,199 posts)
11. umm how is this news? sounds like lounge material to me nt
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jul 2015

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
27. You are right, either that or the general forum at the least
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:11 AM
Jul 2015

The standards for what is LBN around here is pretty low.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
12. Depends on the humor. Never cared for the Lucille Ball/Jerry Lewis/3 stooges type of humor.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jul 2015

I've known lots of good-looking women who were funny...but they didn't do the slapstick stuff.
Stuff reminds me of American's funniest videos. Yuck.

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
15. It's hard to find a "Lucille Ball"
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jul 2015

That's what makes her special. I'd include Lily Tomlin and Carol Burnett in a very small class.

hedda_foil

(17,018 posts)
16. Marilyn Monroe, anyone? She was an awfully good comedienne.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:24 PM
Jul 2015

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
17. Idiot. Funny handsome men are just as hard to find--but Hollywood does not demand men look good.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jul 2015

tclambert

(11,194 posts)
18. Sofia Vergara, Jennifer Aniston, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Anna Faris, Emma Stone, Mila Kunis,
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:44 PM
Jul 2015

Christina Applegate, Nikki Cox, Kristen Bell, Melissa McCarthy, Elizabeth Banks, Allison Janney, Katherine Heigl, Kaley Cuoco, Lauren Graham, Zooey Deschanel, Aisha Tyler, Debra Messing, Jenna Fischer, Sandra Bullock, Jenna Elfman, Tea Leoni, Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman, Jane Krakowski, Cameron Diaz, Alyssa Milano, Valerie Bertinelli, Bernadette Peters, Carol Kane, Shelly Long, Kirstie Alley, Nicole Sullivan, Selma Blair.

From farther back:
Elizabeth Montgomery, Barbara Eden, Loni Anderson, Sally Field, Gracie Allen, Dawn Wells (Mary Ann on Gilligan's Island), Donna Douglas (Elly Mae Clampett), Mary Tyler Moore, Cybill Shepherd, Candice Bergen, Brooke Shields, Susan Saint James, Laura San Giacomo, Marilu Henner, Madeline Kahn, Doris Day, Donna Reed.

That didn't take very long. I'm just sayin' . . . not impossible.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
25. Great list. Thank you.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:58 PM
Jul 2015

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
19. Name one funny woman who isn't beautiful then?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:46 PM
Jul 2015

I can't really think of any, but then my idea of beauty isn't exclusively superficial.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
21. Roseanne.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

I don't find her the least bit beautiful - inside or out. But she's pretty hilarious. Or was.

bhikkhu

(10,789 posts)
22. She is one possibility
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jul 2015

...though without having personally met her I'd still reserve judgement.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
20. To be fair, I can't think of many truly beautiful male comedians.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:48 PM
Jul 2015

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
26. Also to add to the list....
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:09 AM
Jul 2015

Anne Hathaway, who started out in comedic DISNEY movies doing clownish prat falls, etc.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
29. oh I don't know
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:31 AM
Jul 2015

Maureen O'Hara was funny never thought of Lucille Ball as Beautiful ever. Funny yes.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
31. course before I insert a foot
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:32 AM
Jul 2015

Looks don't matter

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
30. I'll never understand the fixation with ascribing "exceptional beauty" to people
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:31 AM
Jul 2015

It's all subjective, and the difference between "exceptionally/really beautiful" and merely "beautiful" is pretty useless in one's everyday life...unless you happen to be the editor of a fashion magazine or something...

Yes, I was pretty much a buzzkill during all those "which celebrity is hotter" debates during college.

"Well, I'd totally date any of the actresses you just mentioned in the exceedingly rare event I had the opportunity. Then I'd have to decide based on whose personality was most compatible..."

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. Please, Mr. Eisner. Do womankind a favor. Stay away. Too bad all those millions didn't help. n/t
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:33 AM
Jul 2015

TexasTowelie

(128,150 posts)
33. Locking thread.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:40 AM
Jul 2015

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