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herding cats

(19,564 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:30 PM Jul 2015

Exxon knew of climate change in 1981, email says – but it funded deniers for 27 more years

Source: The Guardian

A newly unearthed missive from Lenny Bernstein, a climate expert with the oil firm for 30 years, shows concerns over high presence of carbon dioxide in enormous gas field in south-east Asia factored into decision not to tap it


ExxonMobil, the world’s biggest oil company, knew as early as 1981 of climate change – seven years before it became a public issue, according to a newly discovered email from one of the firm’s own scientists. Despite this the firm spent millions over the next 27 years to promote climate denial.

The email from Exxon’s in-house climate expert provides evidence the company was aware of the connection between fossil fuels and climate change, and the potential for carbon-cutting regulations that could hurt its bottom line, over a generation ago – factoring that knowledge into its decision about an enormous gas field in south-east Asia. The field, off the coast of Indonesia, would have been the single largest source of global warming pollution at the time.

“Exxon first got interested in climate change in 1981 because it was seeking to develop the Natuna gas field off Indonesia,” Lenny Bernstein, a 30-year industry veteran and Exxon’s former in-house climate expert, wrote in the email. “This is an immense reserve of natural gas, but it is 70% CO2”, or carbon dioxide, the main driver of climate change.
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However, Exxon’s public position was marked by continued refusal to acknowledge the dangers of climate change, even in response to appeals from the Rockefellers, its founding family, and its continued financial support for climate denial. Over the years, Exxon spent more than $30m on thinktanks and researchers that promoted climate denial, according to Greenpeace.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding

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Exxon knew of climate change in 1981, email says – but it funded deniers for 27 more years (Original Post) herding cats Jul 2015 OP
...... daleanime Jul 2015 #1
Not surprising Nite Owl Jul 2015 #2
They knew before 1981, of that I am sure because I snagglepuss Jul 2015 #3
That is amazing! A smart person, indeed. C Moon Jul 2015 #4
Indeed. The Bell System's "Bell Telephone Science Hour" addressed this in a 1958 broadcast. PSPS Jul 2015 #5
I remember this from HS in the '80s Android3.14 Jul 2015 #11
I remember the "ecology movement" emerged in late 60's passnobuck Jul 2015 #10
And this will certainly be Morning Joe tomorrow right? think Jul 2015 #6
Just like the cigarette companies knew they were killing people yet denied it. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #7
The reasons JackInGreen Jul 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #9
Sounds like a time echo of big tobacco CanonRay Jul 2015 #12
They wrote the book on denial and delay daleo Jul 2015 #14
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #13
Nixon, 1969 They knew then passnobuck Jul 2015 #15

Nite Owl

(11,303 posts)
2. Not surprising
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:50 PM
Jul 2015

This is who we are fighting against, the reason why in the face of documented facts some insist it isn't man made. Money speaks louder to the greed of those with the power to make changes than facts. The very same people who block changes are the loudest in speaking of saving an unborn fetus while they will be the ones responsible for killing our children and grandcihildren. It makes me want to believe in a place like hell.

snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
3. They knew before 1981, of that I am sure because I
Wed Jul 8, 2015, 11:57 PM
Jul 2015

remember clearly, the day in 1973 that my English high school teacher told us about green house gases and global warming and said that in our lifetime we would see the arctic melting.


An well-informed English teacher indeed however if he told us that in 1973, scientists must have know about it for sometime.

PSPS

(13,595 posts)
5. Indeed. The Bell System's "Bell Telephone Science Hour" addressed this in a 1958 broadcast.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 12:37 AM
Jul 2015

Here's the pertinent portion of the program "The Unchained Goddess" -- an hour-long piece about weather:



 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
11. I remember this from HS in the '80s
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 06:41 AM
Jul 2015

We were still watching films that were almost 30 years old.

The OP's story isn't so much a scandal as it is confirmation of SOP that everyone suspected.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
10. I remember the "ecology movement" emerged in late 60's
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 05:43 AM
Jul 2015

About the same time as McCarthy for President, and many women's liberation issues.

Scientists were beginning to weigh the issues of a global human population explosion with the resources of the planet, and looking at possible negative effects of fossil fuel consumption upon the atmosphere.

That's all I remember, (being a non-science major at college back then, and being more concerned with the VietNam war than most anything else at that time). But by the early 1970's, even Richard Nixon had fostered the start of the EPA.

SunSeeker

(51,553 posts)
7. Just like the cigarette companies knew they were killing people yet denied it.
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:16 AM
Jul 2015

Except the lies of the oil companies have even worse consequences.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
8. The reasons
Thu Jul 9, 2015, 01:31 AM
Jul 2015

We havnt set them on a rail and dumped them in their own cess are beyond me....well...no they're not, but those reasons are assinine.

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