Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:41 PM
jpak (39,619 posts)
Bush, after 'phase out' comment, says Medicare needs reform
Source: USA Today
Jeb Bush, under fire from Democrats for saying he would “phase out” Medicare, said Thursday the program has to be reformed because of unsustainable costs in the long run. “It’s an actuarially unsound health care system,” Bush told the crowd at a town hall in New Hampshire, adding that “$50 trillion dollars of debt has been accrued and if we do nothing, that’s the burden that we’re going to place on your children and grandchildren.” Bush spoke a day after making Medicare comments at another town hall: “We need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system that allows them to have something — because they’re not going to have anything.” Democrats pounced on the “phase out” comment, saying Bush wants to gut the old age health insurance program that has been around for half a century. <more> Read more: http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/07/23/bush-clarifies-claim-to-phase-out-med
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jpak | Jul 2015 | OP |
TwilightGardener | Jul 2015 | #1 | |
Gman | Jul 2015 | #15 | |
Faygo Kid | Jul 2015 | #2 | |
Fritz Walter | Jul 2015 | #3 | |
Historic NY | Jul 2015 | #12 | |
DesertFlower | Jul 2015 | #24 | |
LiberalElite | Jul 2015 | #36 | |
Duppers | Jul 2015 | #40 | |
LiberalElite | Jul 2015 | #42 | |
Scarsdale | Jul 2015 | #23 | |
LiberalElite | Jul 2015 | #37 | |
Scuba | Jul 2015 | #4 | |
Gidney N Cloyd | Jul 2015 | #5 | |
YOHABLO | Jul 2015 | #6 | |
DesertFlower | Jul 2015 | #25 | |
jtuck004 | Jul 2015 | #7 | |
flamin lib | Jul 2015 | #8 | |
steve2470 | Jul 2015 | #9 | |
Enrique | Jul 2015 | #10 | |
oldandhappy | Jul 2015 | #11 | |
whathehell | Jul 2015 | #31 | |
oldandhappy | Jul 2015 | #39 | |
subterranean | Jul 2015 | #13 | |
Recursion | Jul 2015 | #41 | |
NCjack | Jul 2015 | #14 | |
Helen Borg | Jul 2015 | #16 | |
Botany | Jul 2015 | #17 | |
Astraea | Jul 2015 | #18 | |
DebbieCDC | Jul 2015 | #19 | |
The_Casual_Observer | Jul 2015 | #21 | |
Dyedinthewoolliberal | Jul 2015 | #20 | |
DesertFlower | Jul 2015 | #26 | |
ion_theory | Jul 2015 | #22 | |
Rosa Luxemburg | Jul 2015 | #27 | |
Gothmog | Jul 2015 | #28 | |
silvershadow | Jul 2015 | #29 | |
whathehell | Jul 2015 | #30 | |
Judi Lynn | Jul 2015 | #32 | |
lobodons | Jul 2015 | #33 | |
itsrobert | Jul 2015 | #34 | |
TexasBushwhacker | Jul 2015 | #35 | |
TheNutcracker | Jul 2015 | #38 | |
whathehell | Oct 2018 | #43 | |
jpak | Oct 2018 | #44 | |
whathehell | Oct 2018 | #45 |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:43 PM
TwilightGardener (46,416 posts)
1. Hmm, I didn't hear "reform", I heard "phase out".
Same as a few weeks ago, I didn't hear that people who want more than part-time work should be able to work more, I heard that we peons all "need to work longer hours" to be more productive. He is as gaffe-tastic as his brother.
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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:29 PM
Gman (24,780 posts)
15. He forgot to use the code word for phase out
Which is "reform".
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:47 PM
Faygo Kid (21,364 posts)
2. He said "phase out" except for those NOW getting it. Good luck, 64 year olds.
This guy may be more dangerous than any in the GOP field, including Cruz, Walker, et al. Plus, he loves war, except for his family.
"We need to make sure we fulfill the commitment to people that have already received the benefits, that are receiving the benefits," Bush said. Anything there about those close to receiving the benefits? No! No more Bushes!! |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:49 PM
Fritz Walter (3,486 posts)
3. Is that the whiff of desperation I'm detecting?
James Ellis BUSH is declining (losing?) in the polls, so he's clutching at straws to try to regain popularity among the Repuke base.
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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #3)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:25 PM
Historic NY (33,873 posts)
12. Wait until his base of old farts wake up...
and find he want to reform their medicare
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Response to Historic NY (Reply #12)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:34 PM
DesertFlower (11,648 posts)
24. i was just thinking that. will
they vote against their own interests like so many repubs do?
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Response to Historic NY (Reply #12)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:48 PM
LiberalElite (14,691 posts)
36. I do really wish there weren't ageist posts on DU.
Do you really think there aren't people older than you who are members here?
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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #36)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:55 PM
Duppers (21,174 posts)
40. Poster was referring to the fact that
Most influential rethugs are aging old farts.
This old gal is not in the least offended because I know that too many of my southern peers are idiots. |
Response to Duppers (Reply #40)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 06:03 AM
LiberalElite (14,691 posts)
42. Good for you
Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #3)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:33 PM
Scarsdale (9,426 posts)
23. Poppy Bush
What needs to be "phased out" is the retirement plans, and medical coverage of the millionaires who retire from politics. His father will live to be 110 with the Cadillac insurance he has, plus the generous pension from TAXPAYERS. Why are we saddled paying pensions, plus yearly increases to millionaires, who lined their pockets screwing taxpayers during their terms? The worst president EVER (W) now pgets $400,000 a year, plus a million more for office expenses, He gives speeches, which are closed to journalists, with fees of up to $250,000. Even bland, boring Laura charges $50,000 a speech, plus private jet travel expenses. I worked 25 years at the same company, my pension is $400 a month, no healthcoverage. No raises, it will be the same for the rest of my life. I am glad to get it, but why do these crooks retire in luxury, after not even working a full week, going on vacations paid for by lobbyists. Rember Trent Lott? He said he could not remember EVER paying for his own lunch while he was in office!!
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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #23)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:49 PM
LiberalElite (14,691 posts)
37. ^^^^THIS^^^^
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:49 PM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
4. "Unsustainable costs" sounds more like our defense budget to me.
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:50 PM
Gidney N Cloyd (17,885 posts)
5. Tomato, tomahto.
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:51 PM
YOHABLO (7,358 posts)
6. How about a real national healthcare system Jeb? Huh? We need Medicare for EVERYBODY.
Response to YOHABLO (Reply #6)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:36 PM
DesertFlower (11,648 posts)
25. exactly. that would save medicare
because young people would be paying into it.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:53 PM
jtuck004 (15,882 posts)
7. The fiscally responsible thing to do, then, is to raise taxes on your rich buddies to get out of
debt, and then come up with a cooperative program, maybe a single-payer sort of thing, or maybe even just health care because it is the smart thing for a nation to do? Take it out of the hands of health insurance companies who only take a profit and add nothing of value, out of the hands of the billionaires who suck excess profit from Oxycontin and other pharmaceuticals.
Put it back in the hands of working people. |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:53 PM
flamin lib (10,087 posts)
8. Instead of shifting all that debt to our kids,
how about shifting it back to the very wealthy and corporations?
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 04:54 PM
steve2470 (36,876 posts)
9. No, you LIAR, you want PHASE-OUT....
Stick to your guns. I'd have more respect for you if you did. Scum.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:00 PM
Enrique (27,461 posts)
10. did I say phase out?
I meant "save"!
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:12 PM
oldandhappy (6,719 posts)
11. Just wrote (hand wrote on note card) a note
to say I am 76 years old, I vote, I like Medicare.
Please join me. ![]() |
Response to oldandhappy (Reply #11)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:04 PM
whathehell (25,434 posts)
31. I'll definitely join you.
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Response to whathehell (Reply #31)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:37 PM
oldandhappy (6,719 posts)
39. Thanks
This gives me an idea to put it in under activism.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:26 PM
subterranean (3,244 posts)
13. $50 TRILLION of debt? WTF is he talking about??
Response to subterranean (Reply #13)
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:20 AM
Recursion (56,343 posts)
41. That was the projected combined SS and Medicare gap if you projected the programs into eternity
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:26 PM
NCjack (8,065 posts)
14. "Quick Draw" Jeb has already shot off all his toes. Wonder what's
next? Maybe a shot into his genitals? The DEMs will feast on his "mis-speaks".
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:33 PM
Helen Borg (3,963 posts)
16. Work harder until you die.
And you'll die when you are older and cannot afford any health care.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:41 PM
Botany (58,345 posts)
17. Scrambles McScrambles
"Did I say phase out?" Jeb bush
“We need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system .... " Jeb bush |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:50 PM
Astraea (437 posts)
18. oh but 20, 40% yearly increases in premiums
and higher and higher deductibles are right where it's at.
Fuck you and the silver spoon you rode in on, troll. |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:54 PM
DebbieCDC (2,538 posts)
19. And he's supposed to be the smart one
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Response to DebbieCDC (Reply #19)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:13 PM
The_Casual_Observer (26,666 posts)
21. Sad part is that he's IS the smart one in that bunch.
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:57 PM
Dyedinthewoolliberal (12,595 posts)
20. It needs reform all right
reformed to pay better and serve more illnesses or conditions, like mental and dental health......
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Response to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #20)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:38 PM
DesertFlower (11,648 posts)
26. i agree. my grandmother
was one of the first recipients of medicare. we were shocked when we found it didn't cover eye glasses or new teeth.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:27 PM
ion_theory (235 posts)
22. Amazing how this man thinks he can get away
with trying to get rid of Medicare. The more he opens his mouth, the better it looks for Walker.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:45 PM
Rosa Luxemburg (28,627 posts)
27. yes Bush privatixation
He can explain to all seniors ehy they should pay for their own health insurance.
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:48 PM
Gothmog (91,304 posts)
28. That is a weak walkback
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:57 PM
silvershadow (10,336 posts)
29. The Bush political dynasty needs to be phased out at the ballot box. nt
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:02 PM
whathehell (25,434 posts)
30. In Repuke Speak, Reform = Cuts.
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:14 PM
Judi Lynn (145,119 posts)
32. Incredible he would even bring up the word, "Medicare," after his friend ripped it off.
Absolutely astonishing!
From Bush Family Value$ The Bush clan's family business —By Stephen Pizzo | Tue Sep. 1, 1992 3:00 AM EDT :
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1992/09/bush-family-value |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:24 PM
lobodons (1,290 posts)
33. Tea Party not going to like this idea
After all, they are the ones who protested for the Government to keep their hands of their Medicare!!
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:56 PM
itsrobert (14,157 posts)
34. This is supposedly the "smarter brother"?
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Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:44 PM
TexasBushwhacker (16,385 posts)
35. Sorry Jeb! Backpedaling isn't an Olympic event n/t
Response to jpak (Original post)
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:32 PM
TheNutcracker (2,104 posts)
38. How many misspeaks/passes does Jeb get? He clearly is not up to speaking in these times.
And he forgets that most of the voters are seniors.
I'll bet poppy is on Medicare. I'll bet he just doesn't go buy his own private insurance, because he can....oh no, I'll bet he's on Medicare. Kick off the 1%. Start there Jeb. |
Response to jpak (Original post)
Tue Oct 16, 2018, 05:49 AM
whathehell (25,434 posts)
43. His dad, Poppy Bush, called it "Socialism" at its start in the 1960:s..
when he was in Congress, and of course, voted against it.
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Response to whathehell (Reply #43)
Wed Oct 17, 2018, 07:14 PM
jpak (39,619 posts)
44. A blast from the past
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Response to jpak (Reply #44)
Thu Oct 18, 2018, 12:59 AM
whathehell (25,434 posts)