Armed man fires accidental shot near recruit center

[47of74]

Source: Lancaster Eagle-Gazette

An armed volunteer guarding the U.S. Army Recruiting Center accidentally fired a shot just after noon, according to Lancaster police.

Christopher Reed, 28, of Lancaster, is one of the volunteers who have been guarding the Lancaster recruiting site following the shooting and killing of five service members at an unguarded recruiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee, last week.

The volunteers were a group of citizens who are guarding recruiting centers across the country. Their goal is to not stop guarding the recruiting centers until members of the military at recruiting centers were able to arm themselves for protection.

According to a Lancaster police report, the shooting occurred between 11:30 a.m. and 12:01 p.m. outside the recruiting office, 1534 River Valley Circle.

Read more: http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/local/2015/07/23/armed-volunteer-fires-shot/30574117/

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Gee, who could've seen that coming? Oh yeah, everybody.

[msongs]

1. gun discharges are never accidental, they always have a specific cause nt

[bluedigger]

8. Usually it involves stupidity.

I see no reason to search further in this case.

[mpcamb]

15. Get these buttheads off the streets.

...my street anyway. Kids play ball there.

[EL34x4]

34. When a firearm is loaded, cocked and the safety is off,

They tend to work exactly as designed when the trigger is pulled.

All four of these conditions require a deliberate human action. There's no such thing as an accident.

[Hoyt]

2. One of those well trained/regulated, gun toting militia yahoos who say they're protecting

people. If you see one, laugh in their face. That's what lax gun laws give us. It will get worse.

[onehandle]

3. Good to know that gun culture is out there ready to shoot anything that moves.

Or doesn't move.

Gun fucks are heroes of idiocy.

[valerief]

4. Who's sick of these assholes? Raise your hands.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Ooooh Ooooh Ooooh

[TheCowsCameHome]

5. Nice job, gunslinger. We feel safer already.

[Historic NY]

7. Rule one don't f--k with a loaded weapon...

rule two never let someone handle it , rule three refer to rule one.

[47of74]

16. That's like rule one through rule 1.3 times 10 to the 23rd power.

[Turbineguy]

9. Why enlist in the armed services

when the future looks so bright for funeral directors?

[Skittles]

10. gun humpers are stupid

[KG]

11. another one of those responsible gun owners, i presume.

[douggg]

12. Lord, protect us from

the protectors.

[Solly Mack]

13. And that's why they shouldn't be allowed to play soldier.

Fucking idiots.

[DashOneBravo]

20. +1

[SecularMotion]

14. And this is why the Military does not arm all troops

Why Military Security Experts Know That Arming All Troops Is Not the Answer

The argument that all military service members should be armed with guns to protect themselves — proffered by GOP presidential candidates Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, and Donald Trump in the wake of the shooting deaths of four Marines and a sailor last week in Chattanooga, Tennessee — is so basic that there’s not much argument to it at all. Railing against “gun-free zones” last Friday, Trump summed the case up in this way: “This sick guy had guns and shot them down. These are decorated people. These are people who could have handled guns very easily. They would have had a good chance if they had a gun.” In making their cases, the presidential hopefuls echoed a Connecticut car repairman whose shop is near a military recruiting office, who told the Associated Press that arming its occupants made perfect sense to him. “Most of them are trained infantrymen,” the repairman asserted. “That definitely would make it a lot more safe.” They’re military, they know how to use guns, how could we not have every one of them be armed all the time, just in case?

The argument is intuitive enough for a political sound bite — and, like many sound bites, does not hold up well under fact-checking. It reflects a basic misconception about the average military member’s proficiency with guns, and it flat-out misses the reality that armed-forces installations are not “gun-free zones” by any stretch of the imagination. Indeed, the military has fairly liberal guidelines empowering its commanders to arm members to defend themselves. It’s just that those guidelines prioritize personal safety and the high likelihood of gun mishaps over statistically rare tragedies like the Chattanooga shooting.

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/military-bases-chattanooga-gun-free-over-arming/

[douggg]

18. militia guarding recruiters fired a shot

militia guarding recruiters fired a shot

(from an article linked on the same page)

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/07/23/recruiting-center-shot-fired.html

"None was present when the rifle discharged."

The lone sentry was willing to hand over his weapon just because someone wanted to see it.

A fine example of how the militia 'protects' our recruiters.

[tabasco]

32. The vast majority of service members are not trained infantrymen

Just thought I'd point out the idiot car repairman's total lack of military knowledge.

[Grassy Knoll]

17. I Just fucking shot myself - The Musical

[DashOneBravo]

19. Glad they didn't hit anyone

I'm wondering if his Sheepdog shirt and 5.11 Tactical pants were injured.

[mockmonkey]

21. I'm sure he will learn from his mistake...

"Reed was convicted of the same offense in 2013, and was fined $50, court records show."

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/07/23/recruiting-center-shot-fired.html

[yellowcanine]

24. "Civilian guards ordered to leave shopping center after one accidentally fires rifle."

Sanity apparently has prevailed in Lancaster Ohio.

[47of74]

30. Yeah, I saw the whining too.

[yellowcanine]

25. More on Chris "Deadeye" Reed

Reed said he is not a military veteran. He described himself as an active gun enthusiast who makes a living working side jobs.

He downplayed what happened. “It is what it is,” he said. “Nobody got hurt.”


He sounds like a real asset to his community. Hopefully the judge will see otherwise and throw the book at him this time.

[left-of-center2012]

22. A tragedy waiting to happen

Imagine a family driving by and their car backfires. The gun nuts would spray the car with bullets, massacring the innocents.

[yellowcanine]

23. "I thought it was empty and must have missed it." Look at Mr. Steel Trap Logical Mind go!

[riversedge]

26. X-posted: Army to recruiters: Treat armed citizens as security threat

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027004673




Army to recruiters: Treat armed citizens as security threat
um...I did not know this was happening.


Tweet:
The Trace ‏@teamtrace Jul 22
Army leadership tells recruiting centers to consider armed citizens outside offices as a security threat: http://1.usa.gov/1gP6gas



Army to recruiters: Treat armed citizens as security threat



By Travis J. Tritten
Stars and Stripes




Note: This article has been corrected.
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http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.359137.1437580162!/image/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_240/image.JPG
Terry Jackson, a member of Operation Hero Guard, stands guard outside a U.S. military recruiting station in Cleburne, Texas, Tuesday, July 21, 2015.


WASHINGTON — The Army has warned its recruiters to treat the gun-toting civilians gathering at centers across the country in the wake of the Chattanooga, Tenn., shooting as a security threat.

Soldiers should avoid anyone standing outside the recruiting centers attempting to offer protection and report them to local law enforcement and the command if they feel threatened, according to a U.S. Army Recruiting Command policy letter issued Monday.

Armed citizens — some associated with activist groups and militias — were standing vigil outside recruiting centers in Wisconsin, Georgia, Tennessee, Idaho and elsewhere this week, saying they want to provide protection to servicemembers barred from carrying firearms on duty. Four Marines and a sailor were killed by Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a 24-year-old Kuwait-born resident of Tennessee, during an attack Thursday on a strip mall recruiting center and a Navy facility that is being investigated as an act of terrorism.

Abdulazeez fired into the front of the recruiting station but there were no casualties. The five servicemembers were killed during an attack on the Navy Operational Support Center. A Navy officer and a Marine reportedly fired at the gunman, although it is unclear why they were armed. It is against Defense Department policy for anyone other than military police or law enforcement to carry weapons on federal property.

“I’m sure the citizens mean well, but we cannot assume this in every case and we do not want to advocate this behavior,” according to the Army Command Operations Center-Security Division letter, which was authenticated by the service............


http://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.359137.1437580162!/image/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_240/image.JPG

[Petrushka]

27. On TV news last night, Lancaster police told the volunteers to "stand down" --->

http://www.abc6onyourside.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/DEVELPOPING-Accidental-Gunfire-at-Army-Recuriting-Center-171206.shtml

[Darb]

28. Is the gun OK?

We need good, clean, working guns everywhere and this fine piece of craftsmanship should be put back in the hands of someone, anyone.

[LannyDeVaney]

29. A year from now ...

the military will notice that the number of minorities and non-Protestants enlisting will be way down.

No way is anybody other than a redneck white male getting anywhere near those centers.

[rbrnmw]

31. I live 20 minutes from Lancaster

my brother lives there I am so happy nobody was hurt and that Lancaster Police told them to leave the owners don't want them there.

[freshwest]

33. TX firearms trained, TPer sister & friend hate OC. 'It's crazy,' they say. n/t