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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:27 PM Jul 2015

Iowa father, son die in hog manure pit after being overcome by noxious fumes

Source: my daily news



Gene Opheim, 58, tried to save his 32-year-old son Austin Opheim by carrying him out of the pit, but both died after becoming overcome by the poisonous gases, family and law enforcement officials said.

&quot Gene) was carrying Austin on his back and bringing him up and he got almost to the top and he got overcome, and down they went," a relative told the Des Moines Register.

The tragic accident occurred Saturday on the family's farm in Cylinder, Iowa, while the two were making repairs, the Palo Alto County Sheriff's Office said.

They were fixing a pump at a hog confinement when a piece of equipment fell into the pit, Gene Opheim's sister Barb Wempen told the Register.

The younger Opheim went into the pit to try to retrieve the equipment but was overcome by fumes. His father jumped in to rescue him, but both were submerged, Wempen and authorities said.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/iowa-father-son-killed-noxious-fumes-hog-manure-pit-article-1.2308284

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Iowa father, son die in hog manure pit after being overcome by noxious fumes (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 OP
Iowa, you say? KamaAina Jul 2015 #1
You're a real hoot philosslayer Jul 2015 #17
. . . . .. n/t MBS Jul 2015 #18
It's known as "gallows humor" KamaAina Jul 2015 #39
Wow Telcontar Jul 2015 #30
Unfortunately this is not the first time this has happened Major Nikon Jul 2015 #2
No, this happened to two brothers on a hog operation in Iowa about 10 years ago. TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #4
3 family members died in 2012 Major Nikon Jul 2015 #8
There should be some way LiberalElite Jul 2015 #13
There's other ways to stay safe Major Nikon Jul 2015 #14
maybe they only go in with oxygen mask Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #15
Not breeding hogs is a start. nt valerief Jul 2015 #33
So...they deserved this? Rebubula Jul 2015 #35
All the pigs they kill chernabog Jul 2015 #36
When people (paid to or otherwise) put words in my mouth, they go straight to Ignored Forever! nt valerief Jul 2015 #41
NASA lost four engineers inspecting the external tank a few years ago Telcontar Jul 2015 #31
Yikes. 2naSalit Jul 2015 #3
RIP Gene and Austin Opheim Elmer S. E. Dump Jul 2015 #5
There should be some state agency that could provide A Simple Game Jul 2015 #6
OSHA had 10 hour course that includes confined space safety. Lochloosa Jul 2015 #10
Me and a buddy came real close to buying it in a pit AngryAmish Jul 2015 #29
Some of those old refrigerators used sulfur dioxide or methyl formate... hunter Jul 2015 #42
You are right on. Scruffy1 Jul 2015 #43
Any Extension program will have a class like that Recursion Jul 2015 #21
I would not jump into such a pit for a piece of equipment Trajan Jul 2015 #7
one of the dangers of factory farming. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #9
of the many. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #20
This could easily be avoided chernabog Jul 2015 #11
this....nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #19
And the methane's impact on global warming is worse than the impact of cars... Nt JudyM Jul 2015 #40
As an Iowan who grew up on farms (we were renters)-- slumcamper Jul 2015 #12
This is what happens when states shun regulations. malokvale77 Jul 2015 #16
What regulation would have prevented this? (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #22
I don't know... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #24
I'm pretty sure nobody is "allowed" to go into methane pits today Recursion Jul 2015 #25
and the father right after. (nt) malokvale77 Jul 2015 #27
A natural and understandable response to seeing one's son go down Telcontar Jul 2015 #32
These types of accidents have been going on murielm99 Jul 2015 #23
Both my parents grew up on farms... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #26
those poop pits are evil. WTF has farming come to. pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #28
all that free energy, gas..to bad these factory farms will not progress past the deathpit stage. Sunlei Jul 2015 #34
OSHA Enforcement Exemptions; Iowa State University Extension Courses mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2015 #37
From the linked article left-of-center2012 Jul 2015 #38
 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
17. You're a real hoot
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:10 PM
Jul 2015

Does the death of two hard-working farmers under tragic circumstances always make you crack jokes? I'd alert, but sometimes public shaming is more appropriate.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
4. No, this happened to two brothers on a hog operation in Iowa about 10 years ago.
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:38 PM
Jul 2015

Almost identical circumstances--one family member tries to save the other and also succumbs to the fumes. Awful way to go.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
8. 3 family members died in 2012
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:49 PM
Jul 2015
http://extension.psu.edu/business/ag-safety/news/2012/3-pa-family-members-die-in-manure-pit-in-md

This happens all over the world fairly regularly. The CDC and OSHA both have warnings about it. People just don't understand the risks of confined spaces and the dangerous gases that can accumulate. What makes it really sad is the information is out there if it were just publicized more widely this might happen less.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
13. There should be some way
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jul 2015

they can retrieve the equipment or whatever falls into the pit without going into it themselves.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
14. There's other ways to stay safe
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:54 PM
Jul 2015

Fans can blow out dangerous gases and monitors are sold that can detect multiple types of gases for safe levels. When you see people working in manholes beside the road, that's what they are doing.

Rebubula

(2,868 posts)
35. So...they deserved this?
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jul 2015

People die a horrible death and this is what you come up with?

Very pithy and righteous - well done

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
36. All the pigs they kill
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 10:46 AM
Jul 2015

have a much worse life and much worse death. I'm sure they have killed tens of thousands at least. Not saying they deserved to die, just pointing out what they have done.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
31. NASA lost four engineers inspecting the external tank a few years ago
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:03 AM
Jul 2015

Pressure test with Nitrogen. Didn't let enough time pass before inspectors entered. Two dropped dead. Two more outside went in to get them, they died too.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
6. There should be some state agency that could provide
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:39 PM
Jul 2015

vessel and confined space entry procedures, training, and at cost equipment.

A one hour course would be sufficient.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
29. Me and a buddy came real close to buying it in a pit
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 06:57 AM
Jul 2015

Worked in a factory, had to clean out a pit that had old junk thrown in it for fifty years. One of the items was an old refrigerator, the type with the beehive compressor on top. It was too heavy to heave out so I had the bright idea to take off the compressor...cut the freon lines...freon leaked and displaced the atmosphere in the pit. My buddy got me out but barely. Very weird experience, suffocating while breathing.

hunter

(38,339 posts)
42. Some of those old refrigerators used sulfur dioxide or methyl formate...
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:16 PM
Jul 2015

... both much nastier than Freon. Both are toxic, burning the eyes and such, and methyl formate is flammable too.

One has to be careful with antique refrigerators. Air displacement is not the only danger.



Scruffy1

(3,257 posts)
43. You are right on.
Fri Jul 31, 2015, 10:26 PM
Jul 2015

I too have had a lot of training and experience with confined spaces and refrigerants. Those old absorption units are very hazardous.
I have seen this scenario several times when one person goes in to help another. Sulfur dioxide becomes odorless a high concentrations so it can not be detected by smell.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Any Extension program will have a class like that
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jul 2015

People have to take it for it to do any good, though.

 

Trajan

(19,089 posts)
7. I would not jump into such a pit for a piece of equipment
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:40 PM
Jul 2015

Very sad .. . I wonder how much that equipment cost? ... I'm sure the family would pay 1000 times that amount to have their family members alive ...

 

chernabog

(480 posts)
11. This could easily be avoided
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jul 2015

If there were no mass killing of intelligent beings.
Not to mention the poor people who have to live next to these pits are constantly getting sick.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
12. As an Iowan who grew up on farms (we were renters)--
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 10:07 PM
Jul 2015

and who as a teen worked in hog farrowing houses I am well aware of the methanous toxicity of manure and pits. Grain bins are equally as dangerous--for other reasons--and I lost neighbors in them, as well. Ufortunately, the powerful Farm Bureau and allied conservative interests in the state legislature collude in an incessant effort to eliminate regulation of these hazards. Even a requirement so meagre as a warning sticker is an affront to their perception of liberty ("freedom to farm&quot . Sadly, the cost of their success is counted in more and more lost lives.

Having felt this loss personally, I maintain that state government in Iowa should regulate these to the fullest extent possible. A corporate farmer's inconvenience is a fair price to pay for saving lives.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
24. I don't know...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:51 PM
Jul 2015

My SO just told told me that his days working on a hog farm would never have allowed someone to go into a "methane pit".

I grew up a mile from a hog farm. No one ever died from going into a "methane pit".

Maybe regulations had nothing to do with it. Maybe it was about not being stupid.

Regulations keep people from forcing others to do stupid things.

Have it however you want Recursion. Regulations could have kept 2 people from dieing in a methane pit.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
32. A natural and understandable response to seeing one's son go down
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:05 AM
Jul 2015

Rational thought probably flew out the window

murielm99

(30,778 posts)
23. These types of accidents have been going on
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:44 PM
Jul 2015

for years. They happened when my father was a kid in the 1930's. People die in grain bins and elevators, too. A couple of teenagers died in our area last summer. Before that, an older farmer was crushed by a large round bale that was not secured properly. He had farmed for fifty years.

Farming is a dangerous occupation. It amazes me how uninformed people chime in when they know nothing about agriculture related jobs.

I am saddened by this loss of life. I wish it had not happened.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
26. Both my parents grew up on farms...
Wed Jul 29, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jul 2015

I understand the difference in taking personal risk and asking others to take the risk.

Hell yes, farming is dangerous. Descending into a methane pit is just stupid. The toxic fumes will overwhelm you quickly.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
34. all that free energy, gas..to bad these factory farms will not progress past the deathpit stage.
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:28 AM
Jul 2015

farming is a very dangerous job. Not just the machinery tearing people to pieces or animals difficult to handle they kill some people.

Pits of manure/urine sitting open have grown in size & stink from the 1800s along with the number of animals tight packed for ' 'increased profits'.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,675 posts)
37. OSHA Enforcement Exemptions; Iowa State University Extension Courses
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jul 2015
Enforcement Exemptions and Limitations under the Appropriations Act

Table 1 (Exceptions and Limitations)
X. Enforcement Guidance for Small Farming Operations
....

X. Enforcement Guidance for Small Farming Operations. The Appropriations Act exempts small farming operations from enforcement of all rules, regulations, standards or orders under the Occupational Safety and Health Act.

A. A farming operation is exempt from all OSHA activities if it:
1. Employs 10 or fewer employees currently and at all times during the last 12 months; and
2. Has not had an active temporary labor camp during the proceeding 12 months.

As an earlier posted said, there are extension courses.

Iowa State University Extension’s Safe Farm home page

Agricultural and Biosystems Engineering

Agricultural Health & Safety

Welcome to the Iowa State University Extension’s Safe Farm home page. From here you will find information about:

{snip}

Department of Agricultural and Biosystems Engineering, 1340 Elings Hall, Ames, IA 50011-3270, 515-294-1434, abe@iastate.edu

This story is mentioned at that site.

Andersen comments on the danger of manure pit fumes

July 29, 2015 By dwoolley

A father and his son who were so close that they were “like glue” were killed Saturday by noxious fumes from a northwest Iowa hog manure pit — the second father and son in the Midwest to die of poisonous manure pit gases this month.

It takes just a few seconds for routine maintenance work in a pig barn to turn deadly, said Daniel Andersen, an assistant professor of agricultural engineering at Iowa State University.

It’s hydrogen sulfide that can be the deadliest of the gases created when manure decomposes — along with methane, ammonia and carbon dioxide, Andersen said.

For the original Des Moines Register Story, click here.

College of Engineering, 104 Marston Hall, Ames, IA 50011, engineeringinfo@iastate.edu

Iowa father, son die from manure pit fumes

Grant Rodgers and Donnelle Eller 9:16 a.m. CDT July 30, 2015

....
Deadly in seconds

It takes just a few seconds for routine maintenance work in a pig barn to turn deadly, said Daniel Andersen, a water quality and manure management professor at Iowa State University. ... It’s hydrogen sulfide that can be the deadliest of the gases created when manure decomposes — along with methane, ammonia and carbon dioxide, Andersen said.

Large ventilation fans and curtains are used to help ensure the air is safe for people and animals in a pig barn. ... But farmers can run into trouble when doing maintenance work below the slats — or in pump pit areas, where the manure is accessed to fertilize farm fields.

“When you’re working in the animal environment, you’re relatively safe,” Andersen said. “But whenever you’re working below the slats — or where manure is being disturbed — that can be highly dangerous. ... “Typically, we try to avoid going into the manure pits at all cost for this very reasons,” he said.

Something as simple as dropping equipment in the manure can send bubbles of hydrogen sulfide into the air. It’s especially a problem when people are in confined spaces. ... “When something breaks the surface of the manure or if the person is in the manure, moving around, that causes more hydrogen sulfide to come out of the manure,” Andersen said. “That can cause unconsciousness and untimely death.”

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
38. From the linked article
Thu Jul 30, 2015, 12:32 PM
Jul 2015

"This is the second time this month that a father and son in the Midwest died from noxious manure pit gases, according to the Register."

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