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appalachiablue

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Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:05 AM Aug 2015

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) appalachiablue Aug 2015 OP
History's great affairs? Why. kelliekat44 Aug 2015 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Aug 2015 #4
What, really? You mean Franz Ferdinand isn't just some Scottish rock band most famously known for Electric Monk Aug 2015 #9
Always, ALways, ALWays, ALWAys, ALWAYs, ALWAYS use the sarcasm thingy. Hoppy Aug 2015 #12
Let's see PATRICK Aug 2015 #11
Awesome post. Bravo! nt Xipe Totec Aug 2015 #13
WTF kind of BS is this? Skittles Aug 2015 #5
No room for history? Live and Learn Aug 2015 #7
I care about all those things as well. Codeine Aug 2015 #14
Fun fact: The events of history more often than not start with an individual making a decision. sarge43 Aug 2015 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Aug 2015 #2
Indeed GeoWilliam750 Aug 2015 #3
I am wondering if you saw the movie "The Illusionist" Skittles Aug 2015 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author appalachiablue Aug 2015 #8
Thank you very much ... NanceGreggs Aug 2015 #10
Fun read. Thankyou! marble falls Aug 2015 #15
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
1. History's great affairs? Why.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 01:25 AM
Aug 2015

These kind of affairs happen everyday all over the world some even more passionate. I don't really care about historical affairs...i care about hungry kids now, desperate women and children now, cops killing innocent people for no reason and getting away with it. I care about a cousin, a nephew, a daughter, grandchildren who may be in a car driving home and may be stopped for a broken tail light or for failing to put on a turn signal.

Nice when finding old love letters of tragic lovers is so thrilling,

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Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
9. What, really? You mean Franz Ferdinand isn't just some Scottish rock band most famously known for
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 04:00 AM
Aug 2015

their hit song "Take me out"?

Whoda thunk it.



"I'm just a cross-hair"

anti-art?







(Do I need the sarcasm thingy?)
 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
12. Always, ALways, ALWays, ALWAys, ALWAYs, ALWAYS use the sarcasm thingy.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:46 AM
Aug 2015

Humor transmitted by sarcasm requires a higher of intelligence to "get it." Several juries I have voted on were in response to alerts by people who did not get the posts' intended sarcasm. Unfortunately, placing the sarcasm emoticon takes away the fun of reading the post.

But it is necessary.

PATRICK

(12,415 posts)
11. Let's see
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:29 AM
Aug 2015

He shot his way out of power and his young lover. That pretty much does in the greatness doesn't it?

One of the tragedies of people in hereditary power is severe loss of personhood, corruption and innate entitled selfishness in some form or other.
We laud them up there or lack all sympathy. Celebrity fame is all.

Xipe Totec

(44,589 posts)
13. Awesome post. Bravo! nt
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 07:52 AM
Aug 2015

Skittles

(172,852 posts)
5. WTF kind of BS is this?
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:41 AM
Aug 2015

seriously, WTF

DON'T CLICK ON A SUBJECT YOU HAVE ZERO INTEREST IN

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
7. No room for history?
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:46 AM
Aug 2015

I care about many things and yet still manage to find history rather fascinating. We can actually learn quite a bit from it.

I believe you can find all of the topics you listed above on DU. Why not visit those posts instead of taking your outrage at events out on the poster of a topic some of us do have interest in?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
14. I care about all those things as well.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:08 AM
Aug 2015

I also care about animal rights, the environment, history, art, boardgames, Morrissey, vegan Girl Scout cookies, Game of Thrones, mechanical pencils (aren't they the coolest things ever?), bass (no treble), Batman, everything bagels, Dungeons and Dragons, and eating that booty like it was groceries.

Room for all sorts of interests in a well-balanced life.

sarge43

(29,173 posts)
16. Fun fact: The events of history more often than not start with an individual making a decision.
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:41 AM
Aug 2015

Often the individual is obscure; such as the English official who refused George Washington a commission in the British army. Mull that alternative history. Who among the colonists could have taken his place? More importantly, who among them had the character to resign after the war and go home rather than do a Napoleon?

A powerful known individual can make a decision we still live with today. Kaiser Wilhelm was embittered about his damaged left arm, thanks to a blotched child birth for which he blamed his English mother. It compelled him to start a game of military chicken with the British Empire. The thing with a standing massive military is the itch to use it, such as start a world war which led to another world war which led to a cold war and thousands of nuclear warheads and ICBMs littering the planetscape. Thanks heaps Willy.

Historiography isn't a science; there's no way to test a hypothesis. However, had he lived Archduke Rudolf might have had a positive effect. We know from his letters and personal statements he had a liberal bent and was aware that the Empire needed modernizing. Another alternative worth mulling.

This has been going for a long time. J. Caesar's decision to make his great nephew, Octavian, his heir rather than the obvious choice, Marc Antony. Augustus, aka Octavian, made the Roman Empire which made, for better or worse, the Western world.

You might want to look into the decisions that militarized the police in this country. There is a history.

These decisions are like peddles rolling down a mountain. Sometimes they amount to nothing. Sometimes they start avalanches that wipe out nations, whole civilizations.

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GeoWilliam750

(2,555 posts)
3. Indeed
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:07 AM
Aug 2015

It set the stage for the events which precipitated WWI.

Thus, it was a very momentous affair, Franz Josef's opposition to which ultimately led to the tragedy at Sarajevo, which he then used as a pretext to start WWI.

Skittles

(172,852 posts)
6. I am wondering if you saw the movie "The Illusionist"
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 03:44 AM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sat Aug 1, 2015, 05:18 AM - Edit history (1)

this makes me want to check it out

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NanceGreggs

(27,835 posts)
10. Thank you very much ...
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 04:43 AM
Aug 2015

... for sharing this. I am a bit addicted to history and, in particular, certain events which changed its course. This was one of those events.

There is also the aspect of a now-legendary romance. Such passions were often the catalyst for world-changing events, and I always find that particularly intriguing.

One can only wonder how English history would have been different had Henry not been completely mad for Anne Boleyn, or had Edward not fallen in love with Wallis Simpson.

History is full of such tales. And I, for one, find them fascinating.



marble falls

(72,531 posts)
15. Fun read. Thankyou!
Sat Aug 1, 2015, 08:13 AM
Aug 2015

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