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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:23 PM Aug 2015

100,000 people have come to recent Bernie Sanders rallies. How does he do it?

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by DonViejo (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Washington Post

LOS ANGELES — The massive crowds showing up to hear Bernie Sanders are not the result of pricey ads placed by his presidential campaign — in fact, the self-described democratic socialist from Vermont has spent very little to lure people to his rallies.

Instead, the eye-popping turnout is a testament to the power of social media and the promotional abilities of an alchemy of like-minded interests: progressive activists, labor unions and even comedian Sarah Silverman, who took to Twitter on Monday to let her 6.7 million followers know she’d be at a Sanders rally here.

The event at the Los Angeles Sports Arena drew an estimated 27,500 people -- about five times as large as any crowd that’s turned out for Democratic frontrunner Hillary Rodham Clinton.

“Bernie always seems to be on the right side of history,” Silverman told the boisterous gathering, noting that the 73-year-old was a civil rights activist in the 1960s, supported gay rights in the 1980s and strongly opposed the Iraq war before most other Americans.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-does-bernie-sanders-draw-huge-crowds-to-see-him/2015/08/11/4ae018f8-3fde-11e5-8d45-d815146f81fa_story.html

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100,000 people have come to recent Bernie Sanders rallies. How does he do it? (Original Post) uhnope Aug 2015 OP
Ron Paul attracted bigger crowds. n/t cosmicone Aug 2015 #1
How is Rand Paul doing? What is the largest crowd HRC has had? Vincardog Aug 2015 #3
Hillary Clinton is well-known cosmicone Aug 2015 #6
Keep convincing yourself of that. Bernie is a "new" zoo animal? passnobuck Aug 2015 #9
It's called a metaphor, Pass. elias49 Aug 2015 #13
Thanks I vote your post for laugh of the day. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #14
Yup nt artislife Aug 2015 #24
It Seems That Some Candidates Purposely Book A Small Venue So They Can Say..... global1 Aug 2015 #15
Bernie tries to book small venues also. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #25
The largest crowd HRC has had that had free admission LiberalElite Aug 2015 #27
When? SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2015 #10
He does it by being right on the issues. Vincardog Aug 2015 #2
He tells the truth. nt TBF Aug 2015 #4
how does he do it? Massive Socialist Communist hypnotic drugging Feeling the Bern Aug 2015 #5
And old MuseRider Aug 2015 #8
Now I know you're kidding, tea baggers are too old to have babies! n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #16
.... JackInGreen Aug 2015 #29
This is political analysis, not LBN. nt SunSeeker Aug 2015 #7
How does Bernie do it? Easy - he is the superior candidate n/t OakCliffDem Aug 2015 #11
I've been calling this a "phenomenon". Plucketeer Aug 2015 #12
probably "personal narrative" MisterP Aug 2015 #17
President Nader had tens of thousands at his rallies too. nt onehandle Aug 2015 #18
Those 100,000 live bodies threaten Hillary supporters like Trump... passnobuck Aug 2015 #19
Hillary needs to earn it by showing her record on these issues and erronis Aug 2015 #20
L O L !!! passnobuck Aug 2015 #22
I don't know but the body count is mystifying it keeps rising.. Historic NY Aug 2015 #21
Not "reflecting in the polls"? passnobuck Aug 2015 #23
People appreciate truth and honesty. In 840high Aug 2015 #26
Many people are just sick and tired of the corruption. They have become so open and brazen Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #28
Locking... DonViejo Aug 2015 #30
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
1. Ron Paul attracted bigger crowds. n/t
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:40 PM
Aug 2015

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
3. How is Rand Paul doing? What is the largest crowd HRC has had?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:42 PM
Aug 2015
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. Hillary Clinton is well-known
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:44 PM
Aug 2015

No one has to go see her.

In a zoo, an addition of a new unusual animal like a panda gets more visitors than the elephants and lions who are known quantities.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
9. Keep convincing yourself of that. Bernie is a "new" zoo animal?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

As if Hillary can get 8,000 in Arizona, or Louisiana, where she would be as "new" a zoo animal compared to those that get elected from those states.

Bernie has backbone and is not afraid to speak his mind about corporations. Hillary, since she needs a few hundred millions from corporations like Citibank, etc... well, not so much will she ever say against any of them.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
13. It's called a metaphor, Pass.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:17 PM
Aug 2015

No need to get contentious.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
14. Thanks I vote your post for laugh of the day.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:41 PM
Aug 2015

Most would say she couldn't draw that size crowd because not enough people care.

But...

Maybe she doesn't want crowds that size because she couldn't handle that much money at one time, $2700 x 20,000 = $54,000,000. Then again where could you find that much rubbery chicken if you had to feed them all?

I'm just guessing but I estimate Bernie's take to be $20 x 20,000 = $400,000, mind you that is just a guess.

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
24. Yup nt
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:28 PM
Aug 2015

global1

(26,507 posts)
15. It Seems That Some Candidates Purposely Book A Small Venue So They Can Say.....
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:42 PM
Aug 2015

crowds had to use an overflow area. Bottom line is that they still can't match the size of Bernie's crowds - but it sure sounds good when they talk about overflow crowds. How disingenuous and the MSM goes along with it while they shut out Bernie and his historical crowds.

RichVRichV

(885 posts)
25. Bernie tries to book small venues also.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:31 PM
Aug 2015

The problem is the crowds just won't let him do it. He keeps having to upgrade them. How is he supposed to be able to afford to run attack ads when he keeps having to pay for these giant venues? It's not fair!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
27. The largest crowd HRC has had that had free admission
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

was somewhere over 5,000 people in June, the day she announced for the second time, on Roosevelt Island in NYC. I noted at that time that she could potentially have had many more people if the venue weren't a very narrow slip of land surrounded by water. Manhattan is just west of Roosevelt Island and Queens (and Long Island) are nearby to the east. OTOH I'm not aware of big crowds clamoring to get in either, unlike in Bernie Sander's events. (If anyone has valid proof that I'm wrong there, post it.)

10. When?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:53 PM
Aug 2015

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
2. He does it by being right on the issues.
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:40 PM
Aug 2015

TBF

(36,665 posts)
4. He tells the truth. nt
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:42 PM
Aug 2015
 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
5. how does he do it? Massive Socialist Communist hypnotic drugging
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:42 PM
Aug 2015

IF that doesn't work, he threatens to drink the blood of tea bagger babies while worshipping Mao, Stalin, Lenin, Marx and every other boogie man the US Government and right wing has invented since the Palmer Raids

MuseRider

(35,176 posts)
8. And old
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:46 PM
Aug 2015

Nader voters. LOL

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
16. Now I know you're kidding, tea baggers are too old to have babies! n/t
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:43 PM
Aug 2015

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
29. ....
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:47 PM
Aug 2015

SunSeeker

(58,278 posts)
7. This is political analysis, not LBN. nt
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 05:46 PM
Aug 2015

OakCliffDem

(1,274 posts)
11. How does Bernie do it? Easy - he is the superior candidate n/t
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:03 PM
Aug 2015
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
12. I've been calling this a "phenomenon".
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:10 PM
Aug 2015

But I'm coming to think it's more correct to call it the NEW OCCUPY. Occupy was a great thing in itself. And it DID demonstrate the power of social media (hey - this 70-year old participated via social media at the time!)as well as awaken many to the injustices against our populace.

What was frustrating about the Occupy movement was the determined avoidance of a leader, or spokesperson. Yeah, it was all-inclusive and the like, but that's only so good to a point. There HAS TO be a voice. There has to be someone who speaks for/of the masses that participate. Staying mute just didn't work in the long run. There hasn't been a mass and consequential event in history that didn't have a leader - think of all the conflicts and contests.

The new Occupy has a voice - a clear and consistent one, no less. And as this voice (focal point, if you will) moves around the nation, The People will see to it that it sings over and above the fray of idiocy. The ugly and vicious fray of idiocy that threatens to consume us all unless WE stand behind our intelligent, benevolent, unflinchingly selfless leader.

How's that line go - "The people, united, will never be defeated!" This is it folks! Personally, I'm not hoping for a "Second Coming". I'm not looking to be "saved" by some mythical sky god. No, I'm looking for a Sanders administration where we all get saved. Even the Morans will be saved - whether they like it or not.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
17. probably "personal narrative"
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:44 PM
Aug 2015

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
18. President Nader had tens of thousands at his rallies too. nt
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:47 PM
Aug 2015
 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
19. Those 100,000 live bodies threaten Hillary supporters like Trump...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 06:51 PM
Aug 2015

threatens 16 other Republican politicians running for president.

Bernie's shaking up the "inevitiable" first woman ever presidential election, just as Fox News and the "establishment" Republicans are shaken-up by Trump on their stage.

Few Hillary supporters can find a reason why Bernie should not be leading in the actual in-person rallies, as he is.

Instead, they claim we "already know" Hillary, so she doesn't need to face these massive crowds in Arizona, Texas, and Louisiana and give her speeches.

Bernie troubles Democratic voters for Hillary as Obama did in 2008.

I'll vote for Hillary if she gets there, (voting otherwise is suicide), but she has to earn it through some hard work, some actual rallies where support for her is obvious, and I think that Hillary supporters are getting a bit nervous. They think Bernie cannot win against a Republican, but have they really looked at the stupidity on the Republican presidential candidates' stage?

erronis

(23,869 posts)
20. Hillary needs to earn it by showing her record on these issues and
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:07 PM
Aug 2015

issuing clear statements about her policies.

She now needs to contend with a couple of real candidates (excluding Webb) that are putting topics forward for consideration.

So far I haven't seen her respond with anything other than "When I am President" I will do the right thing. I have a waffle iron that gets far less use than hers.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
22. L O L !!!
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:14 PM
Aug 2015

The problem is that she CANNOT have "clear statements about her policies" right now, she needs a few hundred million more in campaign funds, (the Hillary folks think), in order to get there.

Take the Keystone pipeline, for example, or something as simple as the TPP.

Regulation of banks, mortgage companies, investment arms of banks, insurance companies, offshore drilling, arctic drilling, Puerto Rico's debt problem, police retraining, relations with Russia, China, Greece, fracking for natural gas.

Got any "clear policy statements" on those issues from Hillary?

I thought not. Is she running for president, by now, really?

Historic NY

(40,037 posts)
21. I don't know but the body count is mystifying it keeps rising..
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:11 PM
Aug 2015

by the tens of thousands at every new posting.....its still not reflecting in the polls.

 

passnobuck

(92 posts)
23. Not "reflecting in the polls"?
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:25 PM
Aug 2015
According to PBS, Bernie Sanders is "gaining against Clinton in early polls." Salon's Bill Curry believes "Hillary Clinton is going lose," primarily because millions of voters longing for a truly progressive candidate will nominate Sanders. POLITICO explained recently that Early-state polls hint at a Bernie Sanders surge, a headline that was unthinkable only several months earlier. Yahoo's Meredith Shiner calls Sanders a "progressive social media star and pragmatic legislator" and states that "Sanders also has a much more substantial legislative history" than any GOP challenger. In Iowa, 1,100 people packed a gym to hear Bernie Sanders speak in May.

In contrast, Team Hillary had an intimate business roundtable discussion with five "ordinary" Iowans. The only problem was that according to The Washington Post, "All five were selected to attend her events." In fact, Clinton's "staged roundtables" were attended by a total of 13 Iowans, picked by either the campaign or the host.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/its-official-bernie-sande_b_7660226.html
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
26. People appreciate truth and honesty. In
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:35 PM
Aug 2015

fact we're hungry for it.

Dustlawyer

(10,539 posts)
28. Many people are just sick and tired of the corruption. They have become so open and brazen
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:46 PM
Aug 2015

about the campaign money and citizen United, everyone knows our government has been up for sale for a long time, but now they see us lied into wars that killed so many and costs us so much to this day. We watched them send our jobs away and try to take away our safety net, when for a growing number of Americans that safety net is all they have.
The people pushing for other candidates probably haven't lost a job yet or had a serious health issue in their family. Too many Americans have and that is who is voting for Bernie too!

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
30. Locking...
Tue Aug 11, 2015, 07:50 PM
Aug 2015

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