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Joe Shlabotnik
(5,604 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)These are the seeds we sowed, and the craps we reap. Crops. Whatever.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Doesn't mean she deserves solitary though. Mopping dining room floors for a month seems more appropriate to the indiscretion.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)Glad to see we destroy people who care about our nation.
elias49
(4,259 posts)Outrageous! Off with her head.
I wish the OP was from The Onion.
TexasBushwhacker
(21,122 posts)How can they hold her responsible for it being out of date?
catrose
(5,348 posts)Harassment to the nth degree, yes.
glinda
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jwirr
(39,215 posts)name written on them. Just to let them know how much we despise them. And yes it looks like harassment.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)It is heartbreaking.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)going on. To be punished this way is horrible. Plus I wonder how much of this is harassment regarding her transition to a woman.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)those that "guard" her are probably even more brain-washed to see her as a traitor.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Other than that, an Oligarchy of Warmongers and War Criminals.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Because if this ain't torture, I can't imagine how bad torture would be.
We. Are. A. Sick. Nation.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Eric Snowden and making sure whistleblowers are busted than releasing political prisoners.
glinda
(14,807 posts)Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)and she isn't the only one.
I just read Chris Hedges' Wages of Rebellion and he devotes some space to Manning, her backstory, and so forth. It was very enlightening. (And yes I know, Chris Hedges, folks have issues w/ him, insert disclaimer here. But it was an interesting book.)
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Dustlawyer
(10,538 posts)in the 60's. We didn't torture like those Soviets did. We had a "Free Press" and wore the white hat! Now they don't even bother trying to portray us that way, even though Soviet propaganda could never approach the level of sophistication and believability that ours has become. Even the most brainwashed Foxbots would not believe that our media tells the truth, well except for Fox!
We were far from perfect, but compared to most world countries we were better than almost all others in many ways. Our media did try to investigate and report the truth and they were allowed to do so. Now the media has as many agenda's as our NSA and CIA combined, none of which are to report the truth. Our standard of living, education, opportunities for advancement (for poor whites) were all there. Now no one poor has much of a chance unless they are a supremely talented entertainer or athlete. Education is only good if your family can afford a good private school or live in an affluent area where the public schools have a large tax base. Even Veterans can no longer get a good college education with their Veterans benefits, we lie to them too!
Yet, many of us idiots cling to the old American exceptionalism of "We are number 1!" Anyone saying different is attacked as un-American. The state I was so proud of now leads the charge in the number of dumbasses too ignorant and stupid to know the difference!
By any of our definitions of Patriot, hero/heroine, and Whistleblower, Chelsea Manning qualifies, as does Edward Snowden. They did what they felt they had to do, at great personal risk, for the good of our country and its people. Too bad a majority of Americans have fallen for the propaganda that made them not only the enemy, but also the bigger story than the terrible truth that their leaks revealed!
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uhnope
(6,419 posts)Maybe the truth is in the complicated middle somewhere.
Remember, Chelsea pleaded guilty.
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Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Sounds like Russia or China.
Terrible.
americannightmare
(322 posts)still think Edward Snowden should come home.
potone
(1,701 posts)How did we sink so low?
uhnope
(6,419 posts)No links at all to any source of this supposed news. WTF GMAB
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Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The link is to a report in The Guardian, a highly respected newspaper in England. You can read more about it -- including how it broke news about civil liberties violations by the Obama administration -- in the Wikipedia article about the paper. If you still want links, the Wikipedia article has quite a few, including one to "Obama administration defends massive phone record collection", a Reuters article confirming that it was the Guardian that revealed the secret phone spying.
stone space
(6,498 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)And no... It's not funny at all.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Bushco never saw the bible come up to submit sworn testimony, so no war crime punishment for them.
Find a patsy, torture a whistleblower, piss on the constitution
plus a get out of jail free card.
What a sick fucking nation the military industrial complex has surrounded us with.
Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)Our "justice" system is perversely broken
