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Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:45 PM Aug 2015

VENEZUELA: Video shows police executing youth at point blank range (Spanish)

Source: CNN

Un video que circula por las redes sociales y difundido por El Nuevo Herald muestra lo que parece ser el ajusticiamiento de un presunto delincuente por miembros de la policía venezolana el pasado miércoles 5 de agosto. Según una fuente con conocimiento del caso, los policías forman parte del gobierno del estado Aragua.

En la noche del jueves, el defensor del pueblo Tarek William Saab dijo a través de su cuenta en Twitter que conversó con el gobernador de Aragua Tareck El Aissami, quien "manifestó que ya los 5 presuntos asesinos del joven han sido puestos a la orden de la Fiscalía".


Read more: http://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2015/08/13/en-venezuela-video-muestra-presunto-ajusticiamiento-por-parte-de-policias/



Translation

A video circulating on social networks and spread by El Nuevo Herald shows what appears to be the execution of a suspect by members of the Venezuelan police on Wednesday August 5th. According to a source familiar with the case, the police are part of the government of Aragua state.

On Thursday night, the ombudsman of Venezuela, Tarek William Saab, said through his Twitter account that he spoke with the governor of Aragua Tarek El Aissami, who "stated that five suspected murderers and the young have been made to order the prosecution ".


Wow... And some chavistas here dare say that Venezuela is a prime example of progressive state.
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VENEZUELA: Video shows police executing youth at point blank range (Spanish) (Original Post) Marksman_91 Aug 2015 OP
It would not surprise me if the police are being paid by the CIA . geretogo Aug 2015 #1
So you're saying the Obama Administration ordered the execution of Venezuelan civilians? brooklynite Aug 2015 #2
The CIA has been known to conduct rogue operations before. totodeinhere Aug 2015 #13
No idea what happened? Cops are corrupt. That's IT! Marksman_91 Aug 2015 #14
LOL. Reply #1 blaming the CIA FLPanhandle Aug 2015 #3
The only surprise is that anyone would be surprised Scalded Nun Aug 2015 #7
Can't really tell if this is sarcastic or not n/t Marksman_91 Aug 2015 #8
It would not surprise me if you actually believed that crap. eom. GGJohn Aug 2015 #16
It's American Exceptionalism. We control everything, everywhere! No evil happens without us! freshwest Aug 2015 #23
Yeah America doesn't hold the patent on police killing people MyNameGoesHere Aug 2015 #4
USA! USA! USA! FrodosPet Aug 2015 #5
All the better to make tasty treats for our reptilian overlords! n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #24
More often? hack89 Aug 2015 #12
Sshhh, you're ruining their fantasy about LatAm being a leftist paradise free of corruption n/t Marksman_91 Aug 2015 #15
They took a young man out of their car... joshcryer Aug 2015 #18
is Che! back from the dead? nt msongs Aug 2015 #6
Must be a bad google translation. It should read LuckyLib Aug 2015 #9
Let's fix that second paragraph, shall we. Igel Aug 2015 #10
Or..they were following orders, got caught on video and were hung out to dry... brooklynite Aug 2015 #11
I doubt something like this was "ordered." joshcryer Aug 2015 #20
Fox Latino "News" has printed a story from Spain's right-wing E.F.E.: Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #17
Should be some street protests over this soon. n/t freshwest Aug 2015 #19
It looks like the USA and Venezuela share some common ground. NobodyHere Aug 2015 #21
The difference is they are a much more violent country than us hack89 Aug 2015 #22

brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
2. So you're saying the Obama Administration ordered the execution of Venezuelan civilians?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 03:55 PM
Aug 2015

C'mon, don't be shy...

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
13. The CIA has been known to conduct rogue operations before.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:49 PM
Aug 2015

But I have no idea what happened in this case.

 

Marksman_91

(2,035 posts)
14. No idea what happened? Cops are corrupt. That's IT!
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:28 PM
Aug 2015

Why the hell does every atrocity in Latin America have to be perpetrated by the CIA? It's almost like you can't accept that a leftist government can be incompetent or corrupt. It's mind-boggling.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
7. The only surprise is that anyone would be surprised
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:15 PM
Aug 2015

They may not have anything to do with this, but gee, CIA involvement in murder in Central/South America...Who would have thought?

I see no real national interest for us, so there probably is nothing there. But the CIA acting outside of direction from our leadership should not surprise anyone anymore.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
23. It's American Exceptionalism. We control everything, everywhere! No evil happens without us!
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 01:01 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Sat Aug 22, 2015, 12:21 AM - Edit history (1)

We are omnipotent, all powerful, all seeing, all knowing! Muahahaha!



Okay, back away from Paranoid Plaza.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. More often?
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:45 PM
Aug 2015

Central and South America is the most violent region in the world with an astronomical murder rate. Police violence is also off the scale - in Brazil alone, the police murder 3,000 people annually.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
18. They took a young man out of their car...
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 12:10 AM
Aug 2015

...held his hands, and executed him next to several other bodies.

My guess it was Brazil-style street justice but it got caught on camera.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
9. Must be a bad google translation. It should read
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:28 PM
Aug 2015

"five presumed assassins of the young man have been indicted."

Igel

(35,296 posts)
10. Let's fix that second paragraph, shall we.
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 04:29 PM
Aug 2015

I'm no lover of the Venezuelan state, to be sure, but that translation's mangled.

En la noche del jueves, el defensor del pueblo Tarek William Saab dijo a través de su cuenta en Twitter que conversó con el gobernador de Aragua Tareck El Aissami, quien "manifestó que ya los 5 presuntos asesinos del joven han sido puestos a la orden de la Fiscalía".


"Thursday night the public defender Tarek William Saab said, using his Twitter account, that he'd spoken with Aragua state governor Tareck El Aissami, who "stated that the 5 who allegedly murdered the young man had been referred to the chief prosecutor."

I'm fudging a bit on the "referred to the chief prosecutor"--it might mean a warrant's been issued already or turned over to their custody. "Ambiguity is your friend".


But it's clear that the police are presumed by the governor to be acting entirely on their own, without sanction from the central government. (The governor may have his head up his ass, but that's not obvious from what he said.)

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
20. I doubt something like this was "ordered."
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 04:45 AM
Aug 2015

The police in Venezuela (and Brazil and a lot of other Latin American countries with high crime rates) are just thugs. Of course, they do get shot at random just for being police, to have their guns stolen from them, so them being thugs isn't surprising.

Odds are they had "suspicions" that these street kids were gang members (malandros) and they just wanted to dispense with them privately. Unfortunately for them it was recorded. And now they're going to wind up dead in a Venezuelan prison shortly (if they can't pull off a massive bribe and get out of dodge).

Whether mayors or not are aware of this or turn a blind eye to it I can't say for sure, but surely there is talk about this sort of thing happening. But to think as if it is ordered is a mighty big stretch. The risk is too high. The fallout from this is massive enough as it is.

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
17. Fox Latino "News" has printed a story from Spain's right-wing E.F.E.:
Fri Aug 14, 2015, 10:47 PM
Aug 2015

Venezuelan prosecutors to probe killings by police
Published August 14, 2015/
EFE

Two prosecutors will lead an investigation into the role of police in the violent deaths of four people in the northern state of Aragua, the Venezuelan Attorney General's Office said Friday.

"The death of the four men would have occurred during a procedure carried out on Aug. 5 by police officers in Aragua state" in the town of San Vicente, the AG office said in a statement.

For the past few hours a video lasting around 2 minutes has gone viral on social networks showing three bodies on the ground and several Aragua police officers getting out of a red SUV with a young man in custody.

Soon afterwards a blast is heard and the youth, who had been restrained by two cops, falls to the ground. Later more shots are heard and one of the policemen is seen pouring water on the detainee.

More:
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2015/08/14/venezuelan-prosecutors-to-probe-killings-by-police/

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. The difference is they are a much more violent country than us
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 11:38 AM
Aug 2015

Their crime and murder rates dwarf ours. There is no real comparison.

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