Trump says would raise visa fees to pay for Mexican border wall

[Little Tich]

Source: Yahoo! News / Reuters

(Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would increase fees on some Mexican visas and all border crossing cards as part of a broader plan to force Mexico to pay for a wall along the southern U.S. border.

Trump, the frontrunner in a crowded Republican field, has made immigration a central plank of his campaign. On NBC's "Meet the Press," he said he would deport all undocumented immigrants and rescind U.S. President Barack Obama's executive orders on immigration.

The orders, if enacted, could protect as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation.

In a policy paper issued on Sunday, Trump said he would increase fees on temporary visas for Mexican chief executives, diplomats and North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) workers if Mexico does not agree to pay for the wall.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-raise-visa-fees-pay-mexican-border-172052014.html

[salib]

1. Because, of course, we should tax legal immigration

To assuage xenophobic fears.

[NCjack]

2. More effective approach would be Trump and his 1% buddies stop

hiring foreign workers.

[trillion]

3. I just read an article where he would deport children of illegal immigrants even if they are born

here.

What gets me is how many racists there really are in America supporting this rude crude bigot.

[candelista]

13. What makes you think this is all about "racism"?

In 2007, your candidate, Bernie Sanders...

...was part of the charge from the left to kill an immigration overhaul bill. Back then, the Vermont independent warned that the immigration bill — a product from then-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — would drive down wages for lower-income workers, an argument that’s been used by hard-liner reform opponents."

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190.html

I don't believe Bernie was ever a racist. His concerns were legitimate then, just as they would be now.

[geek tragedy]

17. your attempt to invoke Bernie to defend Trump is loathsome.

Bernie opposed a corporate giveaway "guest worker program" while working with organized labor.

That is a far cry from the racism and junk economics peddled by Trump and his asshole supporters.

[candelista]

18. It might be "loathesome" to you, but it is accurate and true.,

This was Bernie's position 2007:

In 2007, Sanders was part of the charge from the left to kill an immigration overhaul bill. Back then, the Vermont independent warned that the immigration bill — a product from then-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) — would drive down wages for lower-income workers, an argument that’s been used by hard-liner reform opponents. He paired with conservative Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on a restrictive immigration amendment. And Sanders backed provisions characterized as poison pills to unravel the bill, while voting to block the final measure in June 2007.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190.html#ixzz3j5raOyaE

Deal with what he said instead of talking about what you "loathe," which is a matter of complete indifference to me.

[geek tragedy]

19. Lol, your advocacy on behalf of Trump is neither accurate nor true.

The problem for Sanders was a guest-worker program that some immigration advocates and Democratic lawmakers begrudgingly accepted as part of a comprehensive deal — but was abhorred by labor unions and their allies on Capitol Hill.

“What concerns me are provisions in the bill that would bring low-wage workers into this country in order to depress the already declining wages of American workers,” Sanders said in May 2007. “With poverty increasing and the middle-class shrinking, we must not force American workers into even more economic distress.”

The guest-worker program proposed in the 2007 bill would bring in foreign workers for two years at a time, but force them to leave the United States for a year in between each renewal. It also offered few protections for those workers, labor advocates said.

[candelista]

35. Why do you hate American workers?

Why do you want to destroy all the gains the US working class has made for the last century by flooding the market with cheap labor?

I have said many times that I do not support Trump for President.

[geek tragedy]

20. P.S. Would you vote for Clinton if Trump is the Republican nominee? nt

[candelista]

36. Do you support H1b visas too?

Or do you only want to harm low wage US workers?

[trillion]

33. Bernine gets a ZERO with me for race issues. I can't stand how he pulled white mans prividlege when

Black Lives Matter OMG interrupted him from speaking and he had the temper tantrum saying he would leave if he was going to be interrupted. He learned nothing from Obama who would hear people out - let them speak, and then comment fairly on the issues they bring up. That said, Bernie is the least of the evils so the best person I find to vote for. And yes, I am voting for the least of the evils. If someone comes up with a better voting record and isn't a curmodgeon and has a chance so it isn't another throw away green vote, I'll go for her/him.

[tavernier]

34. Temper tantrum?

When some spoiled, attention seeking child rudely interrupts an event you have been invited to, where people have come to hear what you have to say? And then just blabbers on without any prepared intelligent text, or any intention of giving the invited guest the time or chance to reply, or have a conversation?

She got a ZERO with me, and with most people who were raised with good manners.

[treestar]

23. They are US citizens; so he is not authorized by law to do that

[jberryhill]

26. He wants to amend the 14th Amendment

[NV Whino]

4. Well, as long as he leaves MasterCard alone.

[Turbineguy]

5. I wonder how many Trump voters

have actually stayed at one of his hotels.

[Heather MC]

6. So his plan is to unfairly target people who come here legally?

What an Ass.

What happened to, "We have no Problems with people who come here legally"

[Hoppy]

7. I thought the Mexican gub'mint was gonna pay for the wall.

[herding cats]

24. Once they stopped laughing, the Mexican government said not gonna happen.

Mexico won't pay for Trump's border wall

The Mexican government says it won't help pay for a wall along its border with the U.S., a proposal pushed by Republican front-runner Donald Trump.

"Of course it's false," Eduardo Sánchez, a spokesman for Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, told Bloomberg for a story published late Wednesday.

"It reflects an enormous ignorance for what Mexico represents, and also the irresponsibility of the candidate who's saying it," Sanchez added, referring to Trump.

He added that the Mexican government is not taking Trump's statements seriously.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/251023-mexico-says-it-wont-pay-for-trumps-border-wall

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Donald Trump is the Reagan Antidote

"Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!"

[Feeling the Bern]

9. Visa fees are already too much. B1-B2 visas are $160 and must be interviewed for

K spouse visas are $265

Green Card applications are $420. Change of status applications are $1070.

Citizenship is a minimum of $550.

Fuck Trump.

[davidpdx]

10. I agree

I think he is ignorant. The fees can't be increased just for one country, they'd have to be increased for all of them. All that would do is put a dent in tourism, which would be a job killer.

My wife is a Korean citizen and has a US visa. Fortunately now Korea is in the visa waiver program, but even that costs. With as few times we make the trip back to the US I'm going to tell her not to bother with the visa anymore. It's too damn expensive.

[valerief]

11. I thought he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall or some such nonsense. nt

[Cryptoad]

12. Put that on the Trump list of,,,,

how he is going to pay for the Estimated $4 Trillion cost of rounding up and deporting 13 million undocumented aliens !

[hill2016]

16. why does it take

$4 trillion?

Seems to be an order of magnitude too high.

[CreekDog]

25. LOL, "Hill" is in here minimizing the cost of Trump's most outrageous idea

Smooth!

[hill2016]

28. like Hillary

I'm more interested in fact-based policies rather than just blowing smoke.

$4 trillion divided by 10 million (to make the maths easy) is $400,000. Does it take $400k to deport one person?

[geek tragedy]

29. $250 Billion over the first five years, plus future incurred annual costs required to keep the US a

zero-tolerance state for those without immigration papers.

Not to mention the massive hit to the economy, including lost tax revenue.

[hill2016]

30. like I said

$4 trillion seems an order of magnitude too high. So $250b would be the direct cost of deportations?

And most of this $4 trillion would come from lost tax revenue?

[geek tragedy]

32. $250B in direct immediate, $17B a year in direct but not immediate costs.

Plus $250 billion/year in reduced economic output.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/118602/deporting-all-undocumented-immigrants-would-cost-billions-immigration

[treestar]

22. He'd better wait for the wall to be done, too

As after all that cost, they can just come back.

Showing the weakness in modern times of the idea of deportation.

[jberryhill]

27. guess where he's going to get the free labor

[sinkingfeeling]

14. Yep, that'll work. Can you image how Mexico would react? Maybe they could charge all those

Americans for living in their country. We already have pissed off most of South America with our visa charges. Planning a trip to Brazil, Argentina, and Chile. All 3 have added charges for American tourists because we charge their tourists to come here.

[Sunlei]

15. Donald Trump has always been great at squandering 'other peoples' & 'free' Gov., money

[treestar]

21. How that could raise enough for this dumb wall

is highly in question.

[matt819]

31. What a moron

First of all, illegal immigration by Mexicans is on the decline. I read recently that there has been a net decline in Mexican illegal immigration as well (more leaving than arriving). Larger numbers are coming from Central America. What they hell, though, they all look alike, right?

Next, Trump raises fees. The Mexicans raise fees. We raise fees more, etc.

Same with customs duties. You end with a (sorry, I can't resist) Mexican standoff.

And, guess what, everyone loses.

Looks like those generals on MTP haven't yet discussed this issue, so Trump has no idea what it's all about. Hell, even if he watches those generals on MTP, he still doesn't know what it's all about.

Damn, there goes 2 minutes of my life I can't get back. And all thanks to Trump.