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annabanana

(52,804 posts)
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:37 PM Aug 2015

Oath Keepers To Arm Blacks In Ferguson And Dare Cops To Shoot Them

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Source: crooks & liars

The Oath Keepers are using black citizens in Ferguson to make their own political point about guns.

The leader of the group's local chapter told Red Dirt Reportthat the event would likely be held before the end of this month to protest an order last week by law enforcement officers to Oath Keepers to put away their rifles while in city limits.

"Every person we talked to said if they carried they'd be shot by police," said Sam Andrews, head of the Oath Keepers chapter in St. Louis County. "That's the reason we're going to hold this event, and it will be a legal demonstration. I'm sick and tired of law enforcement who doesn't think they have to abide by the law. They're narcissistic and that guy (the county police chief) discredited my men."

He said other Oath Keepers members would surround the black demonstrators as protection.

Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/2015/08/oath-keepers-arm-blacks-ferguson-and-dare?utm_source=Crooks+and+Liars+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=718385d291-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_d4904be7bc-718385d291-326546605



wtf?

this could end very badly indeed
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Oath Keepers To Arm Blacks In Ferguson And Dare Cops To Shoot Them (Original Post) annabanana Aug 2015 OP
When the shit hits the fan over this, those Oath Keepers will be long gone. Paladin Aug 2015 #1
Exactly. Oaf Keepers are the guys who hold your coat and encourage you to fight. kairos12 Aug 2015 #7
Very very bad strategy! lark Aug 2015 #2
oathkeepers come up with another KKK like scheme to get black men killed. nothing new here msongs Aug 2015 #3
That's what's needed! MOAR GUNZ!!! Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #4
Jesus H. Christ on a mountain dividing fish and loaves packman Aug 2015 #5
That's "Oaf Keepers" to you KamaAina Aug 2015 #6
You beat me to it. "Oaf Keepers" n/t FSogol Aug 2015 #8
Loaf droppers Erose999 Aug 2015 #25
A big ring of armed ignorant white guys surrounding black folk Android3.14 Aug 2015 #9
"discredited my men" < They talked to you as if you were a citizen of Ferguson? Didn't jtuck004 Aug 2015 #10
How utterly disgusting. potone Aug 2015 #11
me too . . . . n/t annabanana Aug 2015 #12
This may be the only time SCVDem Aug 2015 #13
Rob Williams would approve, which gives me pause before condemning them Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #14
well said, my initial reaction was similar Amishman Aug 2015 #15
Thanks, a baby step forward is better than a slap in the face. Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #19
Need more info MosheFeingold Aug 2015 #22
I thought exactly the same thing. hollowdweller Aug 2015 #16
It is a hard one for me because I am so strongly against guns. Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #20
very interesting heaven05 Aug 2015 #24
I kind of had the same annabanana Aug 2015 #21
"...if they carried they'd be shot by police," BumRushDaShow Aug 2015 #17
Oh, this will end well... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2015 #18
These oath keepers are going to do background checks? douggg Aug 2015 #23
They're trying to set up a fireworks show with live ammunition. The Oaf Keepers are a sick bunch.n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #26
More proud graduates of the University of Duh shenmue Aug 2015 #27
Please repost in GD. Aerows Aug 2015 #28
 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
1. When the shit hits the fan over this, those Oath Keepers will be long gone.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:45 PM
Aug 2015

Open Carry=White Privilege.

kairos12

(13,573 posts)
7. Exactly. Oaf Keepers are the guys who hold your coat and encourage you to fight.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:59 PM
Aug 2015

lark

(26,068 posts)
2. Very very bad strategy!
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:46 PM
Aug 2015

Why create all the conditions for a bloodbath of epic proportions. They know damn well that only white militia types (folks the police like) get away with what they've proposed.

msongs

(73,715 posts)
3. oathkeepers come up with another KKK like scheme to get black men killed. nothing new here
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:51 PM
Aug 2015

"Every person we talked to said if they carried they'd be shot by police," said Sam Andrews, head of the Oath Keepers chapter in St. Louis County. "That's the reason we're going to hold this event..."
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
4. That's what's needed! MOAR GUNZ!!!
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
5. Jesus H. Christ on a mountain dividing fish and loaves
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:55 PM
Aug 2015

What could possibly go wrong here? Someone is going to throw a firecracker into that purposed armed black demonstrators surrounded by armed white Oathkeepers and the shit's going to hit the fan.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
6. That's "Oaf Keepers" to you
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:57 PM
Aug 2015

h/t proud patriot

FSogol

(47,613 posts)
8. You beat me to it. "Oaf Keepers" n/t
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 12:59 PM
Aug 2015

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
25. Loaf droppers
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:56 PM
Aug 2015
 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
9. A big ring of armed ignorant white guys surrounding black folk
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:03 PM
Aug 2015

These guys are geneyusses.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
10. "discredited my men" < They talked to you as if you were a citizen of Ferguson? Didn't
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

expect to be treated that badly, did ya'?

potone

(1,701 posts)
11. How utterly disgusting.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:08 PM
Aug 2015

They are trying to use the entirely justified grief and rage in the black community to set them up to be victims of yet more violence from the police. I hope the black community leaders tell them to f**k off.

annabanana

(52,804 posts)
12. me too . . . . n/t
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
13. This may be the only time
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 01:46 PM
Aug 2015

I approve of 'blackface' makeup.

NOW you all can look alike!

Do you feel lucky? Well, do ya?!

Exultant Democracy

(6,597 posts)
14. Rob Williams would approve, which gives me pause before condemning them
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:13 PM
Aug 2015

Although the oath keepers are a group that I find repugnant.

In a very real way a bunch of red necks arming a bunch of black people in america to protect themselves from governmental tyranny is a step forward. Nothing has ever been as scary to the powers that be is a union between poor black and poor whites, especially when they have guns.

I suggest Rob Williman's autobiographical novel "Negros with Guns" for more background on why I am not going to condem this outright.

Amishman

(5,928 posts)
15. well said, my initial reaction was similar
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:29 PM
Aug 2015

Their showing a desire to arm blacks suggests to me that their distrust of police and government comes before racial hatred. A baby step forward is still progress I guess.

Exultant Democracy

(6,597 posts)
19. Thanks, a baby step forward is better than a slap in the face.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:59 PM
Aug 2015

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
22. Need more info
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:31 PM
Aug 2015

I am unaware of this "oath keeper group" until I just did a Google search

The Southern Poverty Law Center doesn't have them listed as a race hate group.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/groups?keyword=oath+keepers

I do agree they look very fringey, but where are we getting the racist slant? What am I missing?

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
16. I thought exactly the same thing.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015


I saw the documentary on PBS several years back and when Ferguson happened and esp the Oath Keeper thing I flashed back:

http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/negroeswithguns/

Exultant Democracy

(6,597 posts)
20. It is a hard one for me because I am so strongly against guns.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

Turns my stomach in fact, but I think in the measure when the white para military group show up, not to shoot black people but to arm them, well I have to at least try to see the situation from Rob Williams pov.

I'm not sure Williams was 100% right, but I am sure he was a lot more right in this thinking than he was wrong.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
24. very interesting
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:38 PM
Aug 2015

..................

annabanana

(52,804 posts)
21. I kind of had the same
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:22 PM
Aug 2015

ambivalence, which surprised me.

BumRushDaShow

(169,401 posts)
17. "...if they carried they'd be shot by police,"
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

This is not the problem. The problem is being shot by police just walking down the street unarmed.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
18. Oh, this will end well...
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

why not bring a couple gallons of gas to the next house fire?

douggg

(239 posts)
23. These oath keepers are going to do background checks?
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 03:37 PM
Aug 2015

Or just hand out weapons freely?

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
26. They're trying to set up a fireworks show with live ammunition. The Oaf Keepers are a sick bunch.n/t
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:07 PM
Aug 2015

shenmue

(38,597 posts)
27. More proud graduates of the University of Duh
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 05:18 PM
Aug 2015


Are you looking for a non-career? Do you want to buy a big-ass gun and wander around?

Then have we got the program for you!

May end with you being taken away in an ambulance, or making a surprise appearance on the show "Cops."

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
28. Please repost in GD.
Tue Aug 18, 2015, 11:01 PM
Aug 2015

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