Republican Senator Discovers Minority Can ‘Filibuster,’ Is Outraged
Source: Daily Intelligencer (New York Magazine)
August 27, 2015 8:46 a.m
by Jonathan Chait
During the first two years of the Obama administration, Democrats enjoyed comfortable control of the House of Representatives, and well over half the Senate. Republican leverage became the filibuster, which the party used as a routine supermajority requirement to block everything. Senator Bob Corker was one of those Republicans. Corker helped craft an agreement to bring a bill to a vote in Congress that would overturn the Obama administrations Iran nuclear agreement. This bill flipped the old dynamic now it is Democrats who want to block a bill, and Republicans who want to pass it. And Corker is outraged, outraged, that Democrats would resort to a tactic as low as a filibuster to block his bill:
"...when he saw Reid say that he is trying to build a filibuster, his response was: Are you kidding me?
Is that where they really want to be? Do they really want to vote to block consideration of probably the biggest foreign policy endeavor? Corker said in an interview. Do they want to be in a place where they voted to keep from going to the substance [of the Iran debate]?
Amazing. The first time, the very first time, Democrats might use a filibuster of their own, you have a Republican managing to talk himself into the view that a filibuster is bad for democracy.
Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/republican-outraged-minority-can-filibuster.html
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Never would have thought we would see the amount of out right animosity between Senators. Well,that time in our History has long since came. Let's see if Korker and his crowd shut the Government down in November as a hissy fit.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)If not hundreds?
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)He and most of those on the Right know damn well the working-class Republican has the attention-span of a two year-old and make up their reality as the situation demands.
Its all theatrics for the camera. They are a pretty melodramatic bunch for sure. It must be exhausting being that phony all the time.
Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)"Democrat Parliamentary treachery is preventing me from saving America. Oh woe are we."
The guy is guilty of the same thing a hundred times over. Still, some percentage of their faithful enjoy remaining ignorant of his transgressions, and must still buy the shocked-and-offended-perfect-gentleman-victim thing. "How could they stoop so low?"
I agree, it must be exhausting. I've wondered how exhausted and confused so many similarly phony people I've known must be when they are alone.
PatSeg
(52,545 posts)politicians who habitually playact or their followers who keep buying the same lies and promises every single time. I saw an old 1960s political movie with Henry Fonda and I couldn't believe the campaign speeches, they were almost identical to what republicans say today. Just change a few words (like the "red threat" to "Islamic terrorists"
and you have a master copy for almost any GOP speech today. It keeps working with the same people, so I guess there was no reason to change the format.
I've wondered the same thing about people I've known who are compulsive liars, but they also tend to have a drinking problem or drugs or gambling, so I suppose that is how they escape when confronted with their real self.
The Wizard
(13,631 posts)professional victim-hood are in their DNA. They have that act perfected.
Beta Male
(52 posts)After all, these are the people who had NO PROBLEM with the things Bush and Cheney were doing to the country for eight years, but then, on Jan. 20, 2009, they woke up and suddenly "realized" that America was in deep trouble!!!
RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)And you can do it a record number of times as well, but if you have a "D" after your name, it's a mortal sin!
Cosmocat
(15,371 posts)nm
procon
(15,805 posts)It's OK If You're A Republican -- Explains everything, yeah?
Beta Male
(52 posts)I've seen "IOKIYAR" a few times on political sites, and was puzzled by it. Thanks for solving the mystery, procon
jalan48
(14,914 posts)samsingh
(18,321 posts)is saving lives.
and climate change is real and caused by pollution and carbon.
karynnj
(60,831 posts)A VERY good argument can be made that given that the Democrats have the votes to keep the deal - probably in both Houses - a vote AGAINST filibustering by any Democrat on the fence is just a vote to embarrass Obama.
As to Israel, the initial vote is before the UN session, an override vote likely after it. One article suggested that healing of the US/Israel relationship might begin earlier if the bill is met with a filibuster. The reason is that if it isn't, Netanyahu will almost certainly use his UN speech and likely many other forums when he is here to explicitly lobby Democrats to override their President's veto. If it is a done deal, he will still speak against it, but he likely won't direct all his anger at the US.
(This does not mean that Obama should listen to Dennis Ross and Petraeous and give Netanyahu bunker busters as a consolation prize. That may be the WORST idea I have read this month! )
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)The focus on the Iran deal has been on getting 34 supporters, not 41. It's known that, if the disapproval bill passes both houses, Obama will veto it. Then the issue will be whether the veto is overridden. If there are 34 votes in the Senate in support of the Iran deal, disapproval will be defeated because the veto will be sustained. The only difference the filibuster makes is sparing Obama the trouble of vetoing the bill.
sakabatou
(45,928 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)PatSeg
(52,545 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)PukeBagger asshole.
harun
(11,380 posts)PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)do'h. where is Mr Smith
