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Beta Male

(52 posts)
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:34 AM Aug 2015

Republican Senator Discovers Minority Can ‘Filibuster,’ Is Outraged

Source: Daily Intelligencer (New York Magazine)

August 27, 2015 8:46 a.m
by Jonathan Chait

During the first two years of the Obama administration, Democrats enjoyed comfortable control of the House of Representatives, and well over half the Senate. Republican leverage became the filibuster, which the party used as a routine supermajority requirement to block everything. Senator Bob Corker was one of those Republicans. Corker helped craft an agreement to bring a bill to a vote in Congress that would overturn the Obama administration’s Iran nuclear agreement. This bill flipped the old dynamic — now it is Democrats who want to block a bill, and Republicans who want to pass it. And Corker is outraged, outraged, that Democrats would resort to a tactic as low as a filibuster to block his bill:

"...when he saw Reid say that he is trying to build a filibuster, his response was: “Are you kidding me?”

“Is that where they really want to be? Do they really want to vote to block consideration of … probably the biggest foreign policy endeavor?” Corker said in an interview. “Do they want to be in a place where they voted to keep from going to the substance [of the Iran debate]?”


Amazing. The first time, the very first time, Democrats might use a filibuster of their own, you have a Republican managing to talk himself into the view that a filibuster is bad for democracy.

Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08/republican-outraged-minority-can-filibuster.html



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Republican Senator Discovers Minority Can ‘Filibuster,’ Is Outraged (Original Post) Beta Male Aug 2015 OP
Oh. My. Gawd. Isn't that rich. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #1
Karma is a Bitch Bobby Boy. Wellstone ruled Aug 2015 #2
Is he that much of a dumbass that he doesn't realize he has participated in scores of filibusters? Thor_MN Aug 2015 #3
For sure, Corker knows. PeoViejo Aug 2015 #5
Exactly PatSeg Aug 2015 #15
Perpetual victims Deny and Shred Aug 2015 #21
I don't know what is more disturbing, PatSeg Aug 2015 #23
Feigned outrage and The Wizard Aug 2015 #24
The Teabaggers set the Tone Beta Male Aug 2015 #25
IOKIYAR. RoccoR5955 Aug 2015 #4
That's how they roll Cosmocat Aug 2015 #10
IOKIYAR procon Aug 2015 #6
So that's what that means! Beta Male Aug 2015 #22
Kabuki Political Theater. jalan48 Aug 2015 #7
imagine when he figgures out that shootings are caused by people using guns and that Obamacare samsingh Aug 2015 #8
Not only that, this is a filibuster that does nothing that sustaining the veto doesn't ultimately do karynnj Aug 2015 #9
What's really funny is that this is a vote where the filibuster has very little relevance Jim Lane Aug 2015 #11
XD sakabatou Aug 2015 #12
Corker is such a loathsome fucktard. blackspade Aug 2015 #13
kick Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #14
First big laugh of the day! PatSeg Aug 2015 #16
Fuck 'um. SoapBox Aug 2015 #17
Fuck that turd Corker harun Aug 2015 #18
gosh and they have a 1939 movie about it too PatrynXX Aug 2015 #19
Poor Corker is feeling screwed Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #20
Bedtime Bump Beta Male Aug 2015 #26
This is really funny-McConnell now does not like the filibuster Gothmog Aug 2015 #27
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Karma is a Bitch Bobby Boy.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:41 AM
Aug 2015

Never would have thought we would see the amount of out right animosity between Senators. Well,that time in our History has long since came. Let's see if Korker and his crowd shut the Government down in November as a hissy fit.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
3. Is he that much of a dumbass that he doesn't realize he has participated in scores of filibusters?
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:46 AM
Aug 2015

If not hundreds?

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
5. For sure, Corker knows.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:59 AM
Aug 2015

He and most of those on the Right know damn well the working-class Republican has the attention-span of a two year-old and make up their reality as the situation demands.

PatSeg

(52,545 posts)
15. Exactly
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 01:09 PM
Aug 2015

Its all theatrics for the camera. They are a pretty melodramatic bunch for sure. It must be exhausting being that phony all the time.

Deny and Shred

(1,061 posts)
21. Perpetual victims
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 02:43 PM
Aug 2015

"Democrat Parliamentary treachery is preventing me from saving America. Oh woe are we."

The guy is guilty of the same thing a hundred times over. Still, some percentage of their faithful enjoy remaining ignorant of his transgressions, and must still buy the shocked-and-offended-perfect-gentleman-victim thing. "How could they stoop so low?"

I agree, it must be exhausting. I've wondered how exhausted and confused so many similarly phony people I've known must be when they are alone.

PatSeg

(52,545 posts)
23. I don't know what is more disturbing,
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 04:14 PM
Aug 2015

politicians who habitually playact or their followers who keep buying the same lies and promises every single time. I saw an old 1960s political movie with Henry Fonda and I couldn't believe the campaign speeches, they were almost identical to what republicans say today. Just change a few words (like the "red threat" to "Islamic terrorists&quot and you have a master copy for almost any GOP speech today. It keeps working with the same people, so I guess there was no reason to change the format.

I've wondered the same thing about people I've known who are compulsive liars, but they also tend to have a drinking problem or drugs or gambling, so I suppose that is how they escape when confronted with their real self.

 

Beta Male

(52 posts)
25. The Teabaggers set the Tone
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 06:37 PM
Aug 2015

After all, these are the people who had NO PROBLEM with the things Bush and Cheney were doing to the country for eight years, but then, on Jan. 20, 2009, they woke up and suddenly "realized" that America was in deep trouble!!!

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
4. IOKIYAR.
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 11:55 AM
Aug 2015

And you can do it a record number of times as well, but if you have a "D" after your name, it's a mortal sin!

 

Beta Male

(52 posts)
22. So that's what that means!
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 04:04 PM
Aug 2015

I've seen "IOKIYAR" a few times on political sites, and was puzzled by it. Thanks for solving the mystery, procon

samsingh

(18,321 posts)
8. imagine when he figgures out that shootings are caused by people using guns and that Obamacare
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:03 PM
Aug 2015

is saving lives.

and climate change is real and caused by pollution and carbon.

karynnj

(60,831 posts)
9. Not only that, this is a filibuster that does nothing that sustaining the veto doesn't ultimately do
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:17 PM
Aug 2015

A VERY good argument can be made that given that the Democrats have the votes to keep the deal - probably in both Houses - a vote AGAINST filibustering by any Democrat on the fence is just a vote to embarrass Obama.

As to Israel, the initial vote is before the UN session, an override vote likely after it. One article suggested that healing of the US/Israel relationship might begin earlier if the bill is met with a filibuster. The reason is that if it isn't, Netanyahu will almost certainly use his UN speech and likely many other forums when he is here to explicitly lobby Democrats to override their President's veto. If it is a done deal, he will still speak against it, but he likely won't direct all his anger at the US.

(This does not mean that Obama should listen to Dennis Ross and Petraeous and give Netanyahu bunker busters as a consolation prize. That may be the WORST idea I have read this month! )


 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. What's really funny is that this is a vote where the filibuster has very little relevance
Thu Aug 27, 2015, 12:24 PM
Aug 2015

The focus on the Iran deal has been on getting 34 supporters, not 41. It's known that, if the disapproval bill passes both houses, Obama will veto it. Then the issue will be whether the veto is overridden. If there are 34 votes in the Senate in support of the Iran deal, disapproval will be defeated because the veto will be sustained. The only difference the filibuster makes is sparing Obama the trouble of vetoing the bill.

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