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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:28 PM Sep 2015

PPP POLL: PLURALITY OF FLORIDIANS WANT JEB BUSH AND MARCO RUBIO TO DROP TO OUT

Source: FloridaPolitics.com (and Public Policy Polling)

A new survey in Florida shows 47 percent of voters want Jeb Bush to drop out of the GOP presidential race, and 48 percent would prefer Marco Rubio do the same.

...

“Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio are polling well behind Donald Trump and Ben Carson with Republicans even in their home state,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “And when you look at the overall Florida electorate, a plurality of voters think Bush and Rubio should just end their campaigns.”

Only 40 percent of voters in the state think Bush should keep running, compared to 47 percent who think he should drop out. Just 42 percent believe Rubio should continue on with his campaign to 48 percent who believe he should end it.

... Bush would lose to the New York City real estate mogul..., winning by a 55-38 percent margin. And Trump is actually has a slightly higher favorability rating in the Sunshine State in comparison to the former Florida Governor. Trump’s 56/35 favorability rating comes in a tick ahead of Bush’s 55/36 favorability. When we polled the state earlier this year Bush led the Republican field at 25 percent, and boasted a 66/24 rating.

Read more: http://floridapolitics.com/archives/190331-ppp-poll-plurality-of-floridians-want-jeb-bush-and-marco-rubio-to-drop-to-out



Here's a link to the polling.

This is HORRIBLE news for Bush's puppet-masters.

It's starting to look like well over $114,000,000 down the toilet.

Pretty damn bad news for VP candidate Rubio, too.
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PPP POLL: PLURALITY OF FLORIDIANS WANT JEB BUSH AND MARCO RUBIO TO DROP TO OUT (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 OP
I think it's hilarious how many of the candidates are loathed in their home states Warpy Sep 2015 #1
Exactly!!! People should listen to Floridians many of who have no use for Bush or Rubio. They know RKP5637 Sep 2015 #6
Who would have guessed Jebbie would crash and burn so quickly and so profoundly? Vinca Sep 2015 #2
Crash and burn? HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #5
LOL! Yep, he ran out of gas before he got off the runway! RKP5637 Sep 2015 #7
How embarrassing for the burning House of Bush ! [nt] Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #3
Ain't Gonna Happen rocktivity Sep 2015 #4
At what point is Jeb!'s campaign so bad they start looking at "Plan B"? Clinton's campaign has had Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #10
Trump is many things Kotya Sep 2015 #17
Stupid question. This would be a lot if it was 45 % of Republicans in the state, but it is voters. Mass Sep 2015 #8
Rubio is the sitting Senator. If 48% of Republicans wanted him out he wouldn't be running for higher Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #9
Those numbers shouldn't surprise anybody. We are a state pretty evenly divided and each of those 24601 Sep 2015 #11
The last 3 Florida polls have Rubio in 4th place and 6th place averaging single digit support. That Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #12
Rubio is not going to be the nominee. It's going to be Kasich. Rubio has an outside chance to be 24601 Sep 2015 #14
Both Trump & Bush are real estate experts. surprised they're both so quiet about each others deals. Sunlei Sep 2015 #13
That's bad news for all those seeking to lock-down records John Poet Sep 2015 #15
And the same poll shows Hillary trailing them all madville Sep 2015 #16

Warpy

(111,249 posts)
1. I think it's hilarious how many of the candidates are loathed in their home states
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sep 2015

where people have had a chance to know them best.

Listen to Florida on this one, people. Jeb might have grabbed the most money, but the country is not going to vote for another member of that family to complete the task of destroying most of the country along with the people who live here. Rubio? He can't be bothered to show up for work, he'd be out on the golf course while the Kochs run the country into the ground.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
6. Exactly!!! People should listen to Floridians many of who have no use for Bush or Rubio. They know
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:50 PM
Sep 2015

what those guys are all about. They should have had that much thought when the voted in Rick Scott for a second term. That, was a WTF for Florida.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
2. Who would have guessed Jebbie would crash and burn so quickly and so profoundly?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:35 PM
Sep 2015

I've got a feeling the next debate is going to shake a few nuts off the tree. Wonder if Jeb's sugar daddies will want their money back like Rick Perry's did. Ha!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
5. Crash and burn?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:46 PM
Sep 2015

He barely cleared the runway before crashing and burning.
And Rubio never got to the taxiway.

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
7. LOL! Yep, he ran out of gas before he got off the runway!
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:54 PM
Sep 2015

LOL! Rubio still trying to find the airport runway!!!

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
4. Ain't Gonna Happen
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:44 PM
Sep 2015

Last edited Tue Sep 15, 2015, 06:58 PM - Edit history (1)

Once Trump has outlived his usefulness to the GOP powers that be, they will clear the decks for Jeb just as they did for Romney.




rocktivity

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
10. At what point is Jeb!'s campaign so bad they start looking at "Plan B"? Clinton's campaign has had
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 07:03 PM
Sep 2015

a really bad month, and the professional foretellers of Democratic doom repeat the mantra daily that her support is collapsing.

Yet she is EASILY doing more than 10 times better than Bush.

How can anyone quibble with the Clinton campaign and not completely discount the Bush campaign by similar standards?

 

Kotya

(235 posts)
17. Trump is many things
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:55 PM
Sep 2015

But useful to the GOP Powers That Be is not one of them.

The Republican donor class and behind the scenes power brokers wanted him out of the race months ago. As much as Liberals can't stand Trump, these folks hate him even more. They're crapping their pants. He was never supposed to be the front runner.

He's f**king up their plans to put Bush, Walker or Rubio in the White House and they are not happy at all.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
8. Stupid question. This would be a lot if it was 45 % of Republicans in the state, but it is voters.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:57 PM
Sep 2015

The vast majority of those are Democrats.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
9. Rubio is the sitting Senator. If 48% of Republicans wanted him out he wouldn't be running for higher
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 06:11 PM
Sep 2015

office; he'd be running for the border.

Since 48% of Florida voters want him to drop out of the race, that means plenty of Republicans want him out and almost none of the Florida Democrats voters think of him as "their Senator."

These numbers are so bad that they not only spell doom in the presidential race, but they call into doubt whether Rubio could bring Florida along if he were the VP nominee. In fact, these terrible numbers suggest that Rubio may have trouble retaining his Senate position (like Santorum -- his failed presidential run doomed his next Senate race).

Bush has ONLY 40% of Florida voters wanting him to keep running. If only 40% of Florida voters want him to keep running, that means his lack of appeal with Florida voters is a bi-partisan problem for Bush.

24601

(3,959 posts)
11. Those numbers shouldn't surprise anybody. We are a state pretty evenly divided and each of those
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 07:14 PM
Sep 2015

percentages are close to what Charlie Crist got in the governor's race. If you took a poll about any politician you'd get about the same result.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
12. The last 3 Florida polls have Rubio in 4th place and 6th place averaging single digit support. That
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 07:33 PM
Sep 2015

does not seem low to you for a sitting Florida Senator?

The last 2 polls have Bush at less than half the support of Trump and also well behind Carson (whose vote is pretty much the equivalent of "none of the above&quot . That does not seem low for Bush's home state -- a distant 3rd place?

Historically, candidates who do not dominate their home state lose.

24601

(3,959 posts)
14. Rubio is not going to be the nominee. It's going to be Kasich. Rubio has an outside chance to be
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 08:00 PM
Sep 2015

the ticket as VP, but it's more likely to be Martinez of NM.

Rubio would have done very well running for re-election to the Senate, but his resume is relatively thin with no executive experience, and that race doesn't translate well to the White House.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. Both Trump & Bush are real estate experts. surprised they're both so quiet about each others deals.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 07:45 PM
Sep 2015

Trump had a business relationship with Gaddafi during the same time the Bush admin had friendly meetings with the man himself, and not a word from the other republicans.

madville

(7,408 posts)
16. And the same poll shows Hillary trailing them all
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:09 PM
Sep 2015

Which is interesting because Hillary does have the highest unfavorability number out of all candidates on both sides, 53%

From the same poll:

"The general election numbers in Florida are generally good for the GOP. The strongest Republican in the state is Carson, who leads Clinton 49/40 and Sanders 48/33. Carson easily has the best net favorability rating with the overall electorate- +20 at 45/25. The second strongest polling Republican is actually Trump who leads her by 6 at 48/42 and who has a similar 47/41 lead over Sanders. Biden polls a tick closer to Trump, trailing by 4 at 47/43. Also leading Clinton by decent sized margins are Fiorina (46/41) and Rubio (48/43). Fiorina (37/31) and Rubio (44/43) join Carson in having positive favorabilities with the full voter pool."

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