Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

The Northerner

(5,040 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:05 PM May 2012

Famed FAMU marching band suspended another year

Source: Associated Press

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — Florida A&M University's prestigious marching band, scarred by the hazing death of one of its drum majors, won't be taking the field for at least another year.

At a school where people attend football games just for the Marching 100 halftime show, where students enroll just for a shot at playing on the field, such a move is like saying the Alabama Crimson Tide won't play football for a year. The full impact on enrollment and the school community can't immediately be measured, but students and alumni said it's a move they support to make sure hazing is rooted out.

"What do we do in that one-year process to make sure these things do not happen again?" asked 25-year-old Travis Roberts, who has played clarinet in the band for four years. "We lack consistency at times, and this is something that needs to change. ... No one has taken accountability for what has happened. This thing didn't start only five years ago. This thing has happened the past 50 years."

FAMU President James Ammons said on Monday that the band, which has performed at Super Bowls and in inauguration parades, should not take the field again until a new band director is hired and new band rules are adopted. Among the rules being considered: Academic standards for band members, more chaperones on out-of-town trips and limits on how long a student can remain in the band.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jYnAA8xV3Ig2zHSEPuZHHM8C55WA

13 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Famed FAMU marching band suspended another year (Original Post) The Northerner May 2012 OP
So MrYikes May 2012 #1
When the band includes 100 people who are not FAMU students, Iris May 2012 #3
That was an interesting little factoid. blaze May 2012 #5
some flunked out and others were attending other schools Blue_Tires May 2012 #8
The band brings in nearly as much money as the football team itself csziggy May 2012 #4
I agree. Iris May 2012 #7
The torture has been going on for a long, long time AngryAmish May 2012 #10
I'm leaning towards really agreeing with this obamanut2012 May 2012 #12
How about campus-wide zero tolerance for hazing longship May 2012 #2
Hazing is assault obamanut2012 May 2012 #13
Four year suspension where all the students cycle out and all marching band admins are replaced. aikoaiko May 2012 #6
How could the Faculty Senate have permitted this? yellowcanine May 2012 #9
Good obamanut2012 May 2012 #11

MrYikes

(720 posts)
1. So
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:13 PM
May 2012

if we were to treat all life as precious, then the obvious answer is to eliminate the band. If you are going to send a message then let it be heard.

Iris

(15,652 posts)
3. When the band includes 100 people who are not FAMU students,
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:10 PM
May 2012

it's possible there's a culture at play there that needs to be further investigated.

blaze

(6,354 posts)
5. That was an interesting little factoid.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:44 PM
May 2012

I wonder how that worked?

I'm glad the band is suspended for now and hope some good will come from this.

I can't even begin to imagine that sort of culture within a band. I must be incredibly naive.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
8. some flunked out and others were attending other schools
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:50 AM
May 2012

Ammons also sent a two-page letter to trustees explaining that at the start of the fall 2011 semester there were 457 people on the band roster, but it turns out that 101 of them were not students at FAMU.

A total of 52 people - including 51 band members and one cheerleader - had been previously enrolled at the school but were not enrolled at the time of Champion's death.

Another 49 were listed as students at nearby Tallahassee Community College or Florida State University but they were not enrolled in a FAMU band class, nor did the university know for sure if they were enrolled at the other schools.

http://baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2012/5/11/report_famu_band_mem.html

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
4. The band brings in nearly as much money as the football team itself
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:29 PM
May 2012

FAMU will lose a lot of money if they eliminate it.

In addition, it has been a proud tradition for over a generation (to my personal knowledge) and probably longer. I hope that hazing has not been part of that tradition that long.

I hope they can extract the hazing & bullying aspects from the band program, clean it up and start fresh. But if they can't, let the tradition die - nothing is worth that kind of 'cultural' heritage!

Iris

(15,652 posts)
7. I agree.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:06 PM
May 2012

I hope this can be corrected and feel like that's where it's going. In groups that are heavy with tradition, sometimes it's best to break things off for a while and then rebuild.

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. How about campus-wide zero tolerance for hazing
Mon May 14, 2012, 07:14 PM
May 2012

Which is just bullying by a different name.

Stupidity, actually.

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
6. Four year suspension where all the students cycle out and all marching band admins are replaced.
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:46 PM
May 2012

Scorched earth is fertile ground.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
9. How could the Faculty Senate have permitted this?
Tue May 15, 2012, 12:21 PM
May 2012

Universities operate under the principle of shared governance. There is a faculty senate or a university senate that is supposed to have a say in who is a student and who is not and what the rules are for participating in university sponsored programs and activities.

obamanut2012

(26,064 posts)
11. Good
Tue May 15, 2012, 01:04 PM
May 2012

I actually think it should be two or three years, but at least that boy's murder is being taken seriously.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Famed FAMU marching band ...