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kpete

(71,981 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:25 PM May 2012

TSA Agents Conduct ‘Full Monty’ Pat-Down On Henry Kissinger

Source: CBS

TSA Agents Conduct ‘Full Monty’ Pat-Down On Henry Kissinger
May 14, 2012 2:46 PM


Henry Kissinger, pat down, TSA
NEW YORK (CBSDC) — Even a Nobel Peace Prize winner can’t avoid a pat-down.

Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger got searched by a Transportation Security Administration employee while going through a security checkpoint at LaGuardia Airport in New York Friday, The Washington Post reports.

Kissinger, who was in a wheelchair, was told by a TSA agent that he needed to be searched.

“He stood with his suit jacket off, and he was wearing suspenders,” freelance reporter Matthew Cole told the Post. “They gave him the full pat-down. None of the agents seemed to know who he was.” Cole added that Kissinger was given “the full Monty” search.



Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/05/14/tsa-agents-conduct-full-monty-pat-down-on-henry-kissinger/




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TSA Agents Conduct ‘Full Monty’ Pat-Down On Henry Kissinger (Original Post) kpete May 2012 OP
There is something perversely ironic about this. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2012 #1
Just this once...I actually feel sorry for the TSA Ken Burch May 2012 #2
"Or at least a fully-paid lobotomy?" The cheapest way is for them to turn on fox news. cstanleytech May 2012 #13
More victims of PTSD FarCenter May 2012 #17
"the horror...the horror..." Ken Burch May 2012 #18
Couldn't "avoid a pat-down"? It looks like he couldn't avoid a feel-up either? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #3
Yeah, why wasn't he in the frequent flyer express check-in line? I suspect he wanted the intimacy. freshwest May 2012 #22
"None of the agents seemed to know who he was" A war criminal from FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #4
He's not called " Killer Kissinger" for nothing! I hope they humiliated him crunch60 May 2012 #12
The architect of the other 9/11 in Chile lunatica May 2012 #28
Kissinger isn't dangerous all by himself. baldguy May 2012 #5
K&R DeSwiss May 2012 #6
I hope TSA agent(s) doing the pat down was a Republican. LiberalFighter May 2012 #7
as much as I despise Kissinger, this is absurd---an old man in a wheelchair wordpix May 2012 #8
Are you "but they were in a wheel chair" people for real? More places to hide things, harun May 2012 #16
I see you're all for the TSA. Should they use the vaginal probe on both sexes you think? lunatica May 2012 #27
Not being an idiot is not the same as "for the TSA". boppers May 2012 #29
When was the last time an old person in a wheelchair was caught being a terrorist? lunatica May 2012 #30
Dude, people put hand grenades in baby's diapers malthaussen May 2012 #33
Usually airport wheelchairs are airport equipment operated by airport employees. Hassin Bin Sober May 2012 #35
Doesn't preclude some baroque plot to mine the chair malthaussen May 2012 #36
I don't think an old person in a wheelchair CAN be a toddler. Indeed, next thing they'll start x-ray uppityperson May 2012 #40
About a year or two ago. boppers May 2012 #46
Perhaps you don't fly much? One doesn't push grandpa in his wheelchair onto the plane... FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #37
In all liklihood, Kissinger's wheelchair Ken Burch May 2012 #19
hahaha obamanut2012 May 2012 #31
meant to be more bitter than funny, but thanks for getting it anyway. Ken Burch May 2012 #38
"...None of the agents seemed to know who he was." unkachuck May 2012 #9
Yes, who knows, he might have wanted a last hurrah, go out with a bang so crunch60 May 2012 #14
That wasn't a grenade...he was just happy to see them. Ken Burch May 2012 #20
more like a colostomy bag waddirum May 2012 #41
Good. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #10
War criminal. nt Mnemosyne May 2012 #11
+1 nt Javaman May 2012 #32
Nobel winner? Guess anyone can 'win'. nt Mnemosyne May 2012 #47
Like most, I expect, my feelings on this are mixed. Robb May 2012 #15
Kissinger in an elevator cheriemedium59 May 2012 #21
There is no Karma ... SomeGuyInEagan May 2012 #42
Not a job I would want... Rhiannon12866 May 2012 #23
Ew. Adsos Letter May 2012 #24
The searches are a lot worse in prison, where he belongs. LeftyMom May 2012 #25
+1! FailureToCommunicate May 2012 #44
He dedicated his life to exercising control over people Ash_F May 2012 #26
Not being recognized probably hurt him more malthaussen May 2012 #34
No Kissinger fan here, but come on????? Beacool May 2012 #39
Nobel has to revoke the Peace Prize on Kissinger. Woody Woodpecker May 2012 #43
It is morally acceptable to like schaudenfraude while decrying TSA techniques CreekDog May 2012 #45

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,659 posts)
1. There is something perversely ironic about this.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:28 PM
May 2012

Elderly Nixon Administration relic and unindicted war criminal gets his ancient junk groped at the airport.

Weird.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
2. Just this once...I actually feel sorry for the TSA
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:32 PM
May 2012

Will therapy be offered to the agents involved in this patdown? Or at least a fully-paid lobotomy?

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
13. "Or at least a fully-paid lobotomy?" The cheapest way is for them to turn on fox news.
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:14 PM
May 2012

1 minute exposure should be more than enough to wipe away the entire incident.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
3. Couldn't "avoid a pat-down"? It looks like he couldn't avoid a feel-up either?
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:35 PM
May 2012

Is that what he wanted?

Is that why he was flying on a commercial plane?

How much money does he have socked away? How many powerful friends does he have? And he doesn't fly on a private plane? How odd.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. Yeah, why wasn't he in the frequent flyer express check-in line? I suspect he wanted the intimacy.
Tue May 15, 2012, 12:02 AM
May 2012

Or, better yet, this was his body double. Meanwhile he snuck onto another plane and this was to throw off anyone who wants to serve him with papers...


 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
12. He's not called " Killer Kissinger" for nothing! I hope they humiliated him
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:10 PM
May 2012

just a bit. How these war criminals go unscathed and live so long, is beyond me.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
28. The architect of the other 9/11 in Chile
Tue May 15, 2012, 07:11 AM
May 2012

A man who's actions are still bearing consequences and reverberating throughout the world today.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
5. Kissinger isn't dangerous all by himself.
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:38 PM
May 2012

He needs the entire military-industrial complex to engage in mass murder.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
8. as much as I despise Kissinger, this is absurd---an old man in a wheelchair
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:46 PM
May 2012

Can't TSA distinguish between someone who might be a danger on an airplane and an old man who can't walk?

Geesh! Kissinger is about 100 yr. old by now.

harun

(11,348 posts)
16. Are you "but they were in a wheel chair" people for real? More places to hide things,
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:07 PM
May 2012

if you want to smuggle you want to look weak, not strong and the danger isn't the 100 year old in the wheel chair it is in the 22 yr trained killer pushing the wheel chair on to the plane and is then going to use what is inside it.

Does anybody think before they speak anymore?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
27. I see you're all for the TSA. Should they use the vaginal probe on both sexes you think?
Tue May 15, 2012, 07:07 AM
May 2012

And especially on people who are obviously very old and weak and unable to get around without a wheelchair?

How many terrorists have you heard about who are old? And infirm? And in a wheelchair?

Oh! But I'm sure one will come along any day now and justify your profound fears.

What a jerk.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
29. Not being an idiot is not the same as "for the TSA".
Tue May 15, 2012, 07:24 AM
May 2012

If I was going to exploit weakness in US defenses, I would use toddlers or the elderly during screening.

People get irrational about them.

Great way to store a bomb, or bomb materials, with great publicity on every failure.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
30. When was the last time an old person in a wheelchair was caught being a terrorist?
Tue May 15, 2012, 07:47 AM
May 2012

Or a toddler?

Maybe the people doing the exploiting are the TSA with the blessing of people who think like you.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
33. Dude, people put hand grenades in baby's diapers
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:46 AM
May 2012

... in Vietnam, and probably since. As for the wheelchair, I don't have an example on tap, but it would be a very effective tactic to put an explosive in the chair, or on the person inhabiting it. I oppose TSA, but if we're going to grant the premise that they should exist and search for explosives, then the procedures they use are not unreasonable.

-- Mal

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,323 posts)
35. Usually airport wheelchairs are airport equipment operated by airport employees.
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:05 AM
May 2012

I would bet that is the case here since Kissinger can actually walk. Being elderly and infirm, he probably just uses it in airports etc.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
36. Doesn't preclude some baroque plot to mine the chair
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:28 AM
May 2012

I mean, haven't you ever read any of Robert Ludlum's books? And even if we stipulate the chair could not be mined, that doesn't preclude the inmate being wired.

The problem with security is that there is no end to human ingenuity -- and perversity. One wouldn't expect, for example, that a group of POWs could take the tires off a 3/4 tonne truck in the middle of a prison courtyard in full view of half-a-dozen guards, but you can read all about how it was done in The Colditz Story.

-- Mal

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
40. I don't think an old person in a wheelchair CAN be a toddler. Indeed, next thing they'll start x-ray
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
May 2012

x-raying carryons. The horror!

Carry-ons need to be x-rayed, yet this metal chair can simply pass through unsearched?

boppers

(16,588 posts)
46. About a year or two ago.
Wed May 16, 2012, 03:24 AM
May 2012

Try to keep up...

You might as well have asked "hey, why don't they allow box cutters on planes! The blades are tiny!"

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
37. Perhaps you don't fly much? One doesn't push grandpa in his wheelchair onto the plane...
Tue May 15, 2012, 10:42 AM
May 2012

...the farthest you might get is to the end of the skyway before having to transfer to the airline's narrow aisle chair to your seat. You, your grandpa and his chair would have been scanned and checked and the chair, if it's his, goes elsewhere.

My old mother was thoroughly frisked and her power chair taken mostly apart before she got thru security at different times. She didn't ever seem the terrorist type to me - I'm her son and may have been biased - but the TSA folks clearly didn't want to take any chances on this elderly disabled grandma.


I am no fan of the TSA. I think it is expensive security theatre. Another time my wife and I were detained for nearly 30 minutes -and nearly missed our flight- because they "found" a pair of blunt plastic child scissors in the art travel kit we had along (traveling with two little kids)

On the other hand, I lost two good friends "that day". And I had traveled several times thru the Portland airport (pre 9/11) "security" where Mohammed Atta had slipped past. So we clearly needed some better system...

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
19. In all liklihood, Kissinger's wheelchair
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:48 PM
May 2012

is made from the bones of Chilean folksingers, Cambodian children, and Vietnamese grandmothers.

 

unkachuck

(6,295 posts)
9. "...None of the agents seemed to know who he was."
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:49 PM
May 2012

....how soon we forget....what, no body cavity search?....an old Jewish man in a wheelchair would make the perfect cover for a suicide bomber....

....trust no one, suspect everyone, we can't be too safe!

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
14. Yes, who knows, he might have wanted a last hurrah, go out with a bang so
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:17 PM
May 2012

to speak, had a grenade in his Jockey undies.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
15. Like most, I expect, my feelings on this are mixed.
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:18 PM
May 2012

I don't want TSA humiliating anyone. But it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

cheriemedium59

(212 posts)
21. Kissinger in an elevator
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:54 PM
May 2012

I remember an audience member on Jay Leno once said he was on an elevator with Kissinger and said "Good afternoon Mr. Kissinger" and he snapped back "That's Dr.Kissinger to you!" I have never forgotten that story. I guess what that say about Karma is true..

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
26. He dedicated his life to exercising control over people
Tue May 15, 2012, 06:14 AM
May 2012

Last edited Tue May 15, 2012, 07:12 AM - Edit history (1)

I wonder what he thought of this.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
34. Not being recognized probably hurt him more
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:51 AM
May 2012

... than the search did. Sic transit gloria mundi, and Tuesday's not much better, Henry.

-- Mal

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
39. No Kissinger fan here, but come on?????
Tue May 15, 2012, 11:18 AM
May 2012

Did they honestly think that a former SOS needed a full body pat-down????

Ridiculous.......

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
45. It is morally acceptable to like schaudenfraude while decrying TSA techniques
Tue May 15, 2012, 09:29 PM
May 2012

well, probably not.

but most people here are probably grinning about this one.

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