Latest Kansas-Missouri conflict over license plates

[pstokely]

Source: KC Star

"There’s an old saying in college sports: If one school refuses to play you, then you can be darn sure you don’t let that school have specialized license plates in your state.

Wait, what?

Well, maybe it’s not an old saying. But according to two Missouri state senators, it’s a philosophy that now exists. So when word leaked out late last week that the University of KU Alumni Association was attempting to get specialized KU plates approved by lawmakers in Missouri, Bill Stouffer, R-Napton, and Kurt Schaefer, R-Columbia, sprang into action.

Stouffer and Schaefer, both graduates of Mizzou, announced that they would file a petition to stop the approval of a KU license plate."

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/05/14/3610547/latest-kansas-missouri-conflict.html

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The gates were opened with the Arkansas Alumni association got a plate, now the beakers think they can get a plate

[bluesbassman]

1. Geez, and all we have to worry about in California is a $16 billion budget shortage.

They got real problems for the Missouri legislature to hammer out.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. So glad they've solved all of the other problems and created so many jobs

that they have time for trivial crap like this.

[pstokely]

3. I don't expect them to ever approve a Mizzou license plate in KS

kU and Mizzou plates are available in Texas

[proud2BlibKansan]

10. There are lots of Mizzou plates in Kansas

It's not a big deal at all.

[pstokely]

12. Not state issued license plates, just vanity plates

nt

[proud2BlibKansan]

14. Vanity plates that say Mizzou

There are no state issued special plates in Kansas. Only for veterans. So a vanity plate is all you can get if you want one that says Mizzou. There's one in my neighborhood and I saw one on I70 a few months ago that said Mizzou 1.

[Shrek]

22. No, there are plenty of state-issued distinctive plates

Alumni plates from numerous universities, firefighters, EMT, and several others. I see them all the time.

http://www.ksrevenue.org/dmv-plates.html

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. No Mizzou though

[Blue_Tires]

11. That's beside the point

If enough people in a state want their college tag, and they go through the proper format of getting them, then there is no reason not to approve it...

And please remind your esteemed state senators that KU isn't playing Mizzou because they bolted for a new conference...You can't run off with your mistress and then wonder why your ex-wife doesn't want a roll in the hay when you're back in town...

[pstokely]

13. kU and Mizzou were not in a marriage

nt

[Blue_Tires]

20. So why is Mizzou so butthurt over not having KU on the schedule anymore?

We both know they needed the revenue, and the need to pretend to give a shit about their K.C. alumni base so they wanted to have their cake and eat it, too

[proud2BlibKansan]

15. One of the state senators actually repeated that lie to the Senate

That KU is refusing to play Mizzou.

Makes you wonder which part of Mizzou choosing to play in a different conference this brainiac is forgetting.

[pstokely]

17. kU has choosen not to play non-conference games with Mizzou

it's kU's loss (or gain with another cupcake game)

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. There's no room in their schedule, especially for football games

This is a ridiculous accusation. If Mizzou had stayed in the same conference, they would be playing KU. It's not all that complicated. My dad was a coach. Non conference games are often scheduled years in advance.

[Blue_Tires]

21. Actually, it's KU's gain all-around

1. No point in letting a "nonconference" school have access to the K.C. market (and that's the Big XII party line, not just KU's)

2. KU has historically been Mizzou's highest-grossing game...In basketball, KU can schedule any top team in the country to sell out the Sprint Center, and still keep the bulk of the gate (as opposed to having to split it 50-50 with Mizzou)...In football, KU can schedule another home game, and keep all the gate, win or lose...

3. I'm pretty sure a token offer was extended to Mizzou, but the terms were so (understandably) one-sided that Mizzou would have been suicidal to accept

[jumptheshadow]

25. Guess what

Mizzou is going to ROCK Kansas City now that it's in the SEC. Recruiting of KC players has strengthened already. I loved it when the Mizzou players from KC stood outside the Sprint Center after the tourney win and declared that "This is OUR city. Kansas City, MISSOURI."

I don't like the SEC and I valued the Big 12. But the SEC games are going to be a pretty compelling story line for the entire state, especially with Missouri's recruiting on the rise.

[jumptheshadow]

26. Actually, a lot of Mizzou fans are looking forward, not backward

KU is slipping off the radar because they are excited about the future. The University is anticipating much more revenue, as is Columbia, which is creating special activities for the traveling SEC fans. There are major facilities renovations in the works.

I'm older, and I appreciate the tradition of the rivalry. A lot of Mizzou fans think that's a silly view.

[Ken Burch]

4. If this leads to a ban on special plates for Nebraska graduates

will a bloody border rivalry ensue, leading to a restart of the Civil War?

[marybourg]

6. If the Civil War starts up again ,

I say let it play out differently this time! Let them go!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

5. I've never seen a flying Jayhawk. I was in Lawrence 40 years ago for music camp.

Or a flying Ku-Ku Bird as I call them.
Where do they get those pilgrim shoes with buckles?

[Woody Woodpecker]

8. This one time at band camp....

gd&r

[LiberalFighter]

9. She is so hot!

A lot hotter than many models.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

46. You guys are baffling me.

It was band, orchestra and choir camp.

I was in orchestra and choir.
(first fiddle section in the top orchestra that played harder stuff)

[LiberalFighter]

48. I should had also said that she is still hot.

I liked her acting in the movie and I like her in "How I Met My Mother".

Love hearing the violin either as a fiddle or violin.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

49. Who are you talking about?

I say "fiddle" because it's easier to say, but I refuse to play country or shitkick. Classical people like a higher bridge which means higher action and gut-wrapped-in-steel strings. country people don't know enough to wipe the rosin off their fiddles (that white gunk) and like low bridges and steel strings.

[jtuck004]

7. We pay people to do this. It's inconceivable. n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. It's positively ridiculous

I thought that Don't Say Gay bill was the worst they would do this session. But this is the stupidest.

[Telly Savalas]

42. My Senator posted on facebook that they were debating adoption of the gold standard

I think that's the stupidest

[pstokely]

45. Both Dems and Repukes seem to agree one thing in Missouri

http://blogs.news-leader.com/mopolitics/2012/05/16/bill-addressing-missouri-state-university-and-that-whole-ku-license-plate-thing-headed-to-nixons-desk/

"Columbia Democrat Stephen Webber, the amendment’s sponsor, said he would file a repeal bill next year if KU and Mizzou resume their collegiate sports rivalry."

[jumptheshadow]

16. Sorry KU fans,

...I like you and wish we were still playing each other, but...

Missouri should not manufacture KU plates, and especially not after the war of words in the last few months.

[Blue_Tires]

23. So the state should piss all over its citizens' request to prove a tiny political point?

I'm a Virginian...Seeing Maryland/Duke/North Carolina/etc. alumni plates makes me want to stab something, but those people got together, filled out the proper forms, and paid their money so the Commonwealth had no reason to deny them...

What's next? Should the state fine any parents in Missouri with the unmitigated gall to send their kid to KU in light of the recent unpleasantness?

[jumptheshadow]

24. Nope, KU is a good school

Virginia vs. any of those schools is a shadow of the deepest, bitterest athletic rivalry in the NCAA. One with its roots in blood. One in which my school was on the wrong side of history.

The Big 12 and KU have tried to declare "ownership" of Kansas City for recruiting and TV negotiation purposes.

Big news: It's Kansas City, Missouri.

When Mizzou left for the SEC (NOT my favorite decision), KU refused to play any more games with us. Until we meet again, and this ridiculous "war" calms down, Missouri should not be doing anything to promote KU at all.

The vote was unanimous, by the way.

[proud2BlibKansan]

29. KU didn't have room in their non conference schedule

To say KU refused is a blatant lie.

[jumptheshadow]

32. KU acted like a spurned lover

Mizzou has tried to schedule games for the future, KU has refused.

They will play again when KU needs the money.

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-10-21/ku-mu-good-luck-sec

[proud2BlibKansan]

35. Baloney

Non conference games are scheduled years in advance. If Mizzou wants to play KU, they should have remained in the Big 12. To choose to leave and then turn around and blame KU for not wanting to play them is ridiculous. KU didn't kick Mizzou out of the conference; they chose to leave.

[jumptheshadow]

36. Did you even read the link?

Mizzou offered to schedule games; KU has no interest. Google it. You will find the stories everywhere. They could talk to Mizzou about scheduling a few years down the road if non-conference games are the issue.

What will happen is some network will offer a chunk of cash for that game. Then see how quickly KU comes to the table.

I don't understand why you are repeating something that is wrong and can be looked up.

[proud2BlibKansan]

38. Once again.

Non conference games are scheduled way far in advance. There are usually few if any open slots, especially for football.

I don't think this is that hard to understand. My dad was a coach. His non conference games were set several years in advance.

[Blue_Tires]

30. uh...KU and the Big XII do "own" that market

Sole ownership, since Mizzou abandoned it...What other conference is banging down the door to put their championship games there? Let Mizzou schedule a non-con at the Sprint Center and actually try to sell out the place...

Mizzou made a move out of financial self-interest, which I can understand...KU is simply doing the same --business, not personal...

[jumptheshadow]

31. Not in recruiting, and the fan base is shifting

It's a television game. And a recruiting game.

Tell me that if a KU-WV game overlapped with MU-GA or MU-Alabama or MU-FL that KC will be tuned into KU-WV. If James Franklin is healthy, the MU offense will be very entertaining, especially with top recruit Dorial Green-Beckham catching passes. Frosh QB Matty Mauk, who set passing records at the high school level, is waiting in the wings. KC's TV market will be owned by Mizzou during football season if key players don't hurt themselves.

Mizzou has also landed some top transfers in BB and is doing very well with recruiting for future years. If Mizzou and Kentucky are both in the Top Ten, then that game will sell out anywhere in Missouri. Although the SEC will probably base its conference championships elsewhere, be prepared for a little KC surprise every now and then.

[Blue_Tires]

33. KU-WVU?? At least make the comparison even and say KU-OU/OSU/UT

[jumptheshadow]

34. Still doesn't compare -- in fact, it's laughable (nt)

[Blue_Tires]

39. Well KU-KSU, then

Mizzou could schedule the Denver Broncos and still take a backseat in K.C. viewership...

[jumptheshadow]

41. OK, I'll give you that one (nt)

[pstokely]

43. kU Basketball is treated like KCs 3rd pro franchise

They don't need to sell tickets on groupon like they to do with kU football

[pstokely]

44. Don't blame Mizzou if the Big 12 Tournament leaves KC for Texas

Blame bevo, It will probably be in KC as long as the Big 12(-4+2) survives

[Evasporque]

27. GOP lawmakers to monetize leaves

"The leaves on trees that grow every year would make up for the budget shortfalls easily." said a unnamed GOP lawmaker. "They are plentiful and people like them almost as much as a hot bath. Why by July we will see a real boom in economy as the millions of trees introduce trillions of dollars into the economy. So please excuse me, my bath is ready. Thank you so much."

[muriel_volestrangler]

37. Q: What's the matter with Kansas and Missouri?

A: Neither of them has a sense of proportion.

Is everyone else who is not from those 2 states laughing their asses off at how ridiculous they look?

[jumptheshadow]

40. They are a bellwether for the US

And, yes, it does sound crazy.

There's a bloody history that originated during the Civil War. It eventually morphed into a relatively innocuous athletic rivalry...but the strains we are seeing now have deep roots.

[Amster Dan]

47. And here I thought KS & MO only argued over barbecue!