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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:42 PM Sep 2015

Carly Fiorina Lies to Fox, Has a Bri-Wi Problem

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Source: Huffington Post

Carly Fiorina has a big problem with the truth. More specifically, she has a problem with embellishing the truth, in a manner very reminiscent of disgraced NBC anchor Brian Williams.

On Friday, conservative radio host Sean Hannity asked Fiorina to explain stories that Hewlett-Packard violated in the Iran embargo, by selling millions of dollars of computers, parts and equipment through a Dubai-based company, while she was CEO.

"The SEC did a thorough investigation and concluded that no one in management, myself included, knew anything about it," Fiorina told Hannity.

...

Yes, except the SEC investigation didn't. In fact, the SEC didn't perform an investigation at all, especially one that cleared her of any knowledge of the affair.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-schmeltzer/carly-fiorina-lies-to-fox_b_8163596.html

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Carly Fiorina Lies to Fox, Has a Bri-Wi Problem (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 OP
was it Cheney who had the Dubai-based company? Sunlei Sep 2015 #1
That's 2 bald face lies now, Carly. You will never be president leftofcool Sep 2015 #2
Pfff, as if she's running for president. She's running to jack up her speaking fees. Bucky Sep 2015 #24
ALL cons who run for president do so to make money ALL randys1 Sep 2015 #27
Geez Lady, you just make-up stuff & say anything that sounds like it has a 7% chance of being true. BlueJazz Sep 2015 #3
Just add more gluten to the sauce so it'll stick on the wall. erronis Sep 2015 #23
Republicans vs Truth Pedoviejo2 Sep 2015 #4
The truth is at odds with their narrative and facts destroy their myths Vincardog Sep 2015 #5
And I don't understand how they get away with it so often .. n/t moonscape Sep 2015 #9
Because many times the corporate media gives them a pass. It depends on who says it. Dustlawyer Sep 2015 #18
I do, your average teapartier will vote for the worst criminals over any Democrat, every time randys1 Sep 2015 #28
because to republicans it is all about winning Angry Dragon Sep 2015 #10
Have faith! tecelote Sep 2015 #11
Because they have such high regard for truthiness. tanyev Sep 2015 #20
Maddow is on the other Fiorina lies story: "Caught in a fib, Fiorina refuses to acknowledge misstep" Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #6
yes Fiorina is driven to lie Backwoodsrider Sep 2015 #7
Carly P. Fiorina bucolic_frolic Sep 2015 #8
Every Corporation CEO knows exactly who their customers are and what salesmen cover that district. Sunlei Sep 2015 #12
No one in management? RussBLib Sep 2015 #13
I'm thinking mercuryblues Sep 2015 #14
It actually doesn't even matter how much she lies IMO... ion_theory Sep 2015 #15
Hello Folks Brian Here Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #16
Carly FIASCOrina. DinahMoeHum Sep 2015 #17
Carly Fugazi, those old Barbara Boxer clips will be enough ... JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2015 #19
Carly is only supposed to be going after HRC; they would never let her get the GOP nod. Justice Sep 2015 #21
Arrogant smug faced liars are the worst ErikJ Sep 2015 #22
Carly is even stupid enough to talk about her Reaganitis. DhhD Sep 2015 #25
Fiorina took the truth, and then added some tinsel, in lying to Sean Hannity and Chris Wallace..... riversedge Sep 2015 #26
When did "Bri-Wi" become a thing? Bucky Sep 2015 #29
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Sep 2015 #30
Carly is a liar Gothmog Sep 2015 #31
LOL Skittles Sep 2015 #32
Is This....like...Unusual For Her? NonMetro Sep 2015 #33
What a nasty piece of work. spiderpig Sep 2015 #34
If any listener fact checks what is said on Fox NEWS. it is mostly lies. Fox NEWS survives on rladdi Sep 2015 #35
She is a lying shitstain. k&r, nt appal_jack Sep 2015 #36
Locking thread. TexasTowelie Sep 2015 #37

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
1. was it Cheney who had the Dubai-based company?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:46 PM
Sep 2015

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. That's 2 bald face lies now, Carly. You will never be president
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:47 PM
Sep 2015

Bucky

(53,511 posts)
24. Pfff, as if she's running for president. She's running to jack up her speaking fees.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:43 PM
Sep 2015

Anyway, blatant lying is the new maverick.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
27. ALL cons who run for president do so to make money ALL
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:21 PM
Sep 2015

if they end up president, so be it.

But ALL cons do what they do, ALL the time, for money.

ALL

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. Geez Lady, you just make-up stuff & say anything that sounds like it has a 7% chance of being true.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

erronis

(14,640 posts)
23. Just add more gluten to the sauce so it'll stick on the wall.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

There isn't a plain-talking person amongst them. Time for Forrest Gump to jump into the race!

Pedoviejo2

(14 posts)
4. Republicans vs Truth
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:53 PM
Sep 2015

I do not understand why Republicans have such disregard for truth and facts.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
5. The truth is at odds with their narrative and facts destroy their myths
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015

moonscape

(4,651 posts)
9. And I don't understand how they get away with it so often .. n/t
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

Dustlawyer

(10,486 posts)
18. Because many times the corporate media gives them a pass. It depends on who says it.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:20 PM
Sep 2015

randys1

(16,286 posts)
28. I do, your average teapartier will vote for the worst criminals over any Democrat, every time
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:22 PM
Sep 2015

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
10. because to republicans it is all about winning
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:26 PM
Sep 2015

it does not matter who they destroy on the way to victory

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
11. Have faith!
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:28 PM
Sep 2015

Then, facts will no longer matter.

They know it from their heart. Republicans do not need science when God tells them the truth.

tanyev

(42,015 posts)
20. Because they have such high regard for truthiness.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:24 PM
Sep 2015

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
6. Maddow is on the other Fiorina lies story: "Caught in a fib, Fiorina refuses to acknowledge misstep"
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 01:56 PM
Sep 2015
link to the Maddow blog:

At last week’s Republican debate, Carly Fiorina described a Planned Parenthood video showing “a fully formed fetus on the table, its heart beating, its legs kicking, while someone says, ‘We have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.’”

There is no such video. It does not exist. This pesky detail has since touched off a striking series of events.

First, the GOP candidate insisted the day after the debate that she “didn’t misspeak,” adding, “I have seen those images.” Of course, Fiorina couldn’t have seen those images, because there are no such images.

...

Yesterday, Fiorina appeared on “Fox News Sunday,” where host Chris Wallace tried to lead Fiorina to acknowledge reality. From the Nexis transcript:

WALLACE: First of all, do you acknowledge what every fact checker has found, that as horrific as that scene is, it was only described on the video by someone who claimed to have seen it? There is no actual footage of the incident that you just mentioned?

FIORINA: No, I don’t accept that at all. I’ve seen the footage. And I find it amazing, actually, that all these supposed fact-checkers in the mainstream media claim this doesn’t exist. They’re trying to attack the authenticity of the videotape.


...

TPM’s Josh Marshall added the other day, “Fiorina has a habit of simply making things up. In the case of the parts of the Planned Parenthood videos, the way she made it up seems to verge on the pathological. Again she says she saw something in these videos that completely wasn’t there.”

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
7. yes Fiorina is driven to lie
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:04 PM
Sep 2015

She is so driven, she wants it so bad she stretches the truth. That's bad if she is a CEO or president but does come in handy if Fiorina starts selling used cars...

bucolic_frolic

(41,992 posts)
8. Carly P. Fiorina
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:07 PM
Sep 2015

P for Pinocchio

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. Every Corporation CEO knows exactly who their customers are and what salesmen cover that district.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:29 PM
Sep 2015

She probably signed non-disclosure agreements with her past Corporate employer & could be sued for leaking business, 'secrets'.

Not Presidential material if she could be blackmailed by her past Corporation owners.

RussBLib

(8,853 posts)
13. No one in management?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

So HP printers are being sold, by the millions, to Iran during the Iranian embargo, and "no one in management" knew about it?

Gee, just how stupid and out of touch IS corporate management these days?

I smell a big, steaming heap of bullshit.

mercuryblues

(14,389 posts)
14. I'm thinking
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:55 PM
Sep 2015

she may very well wish she never mentioned the SEC.

I googled HP + SEC and look at the 1st hit. Carly was at HP from 1999-2005

http://www.sec.gov/News/PressRelease/Detail/PressRelease/1370541453075

The SEC’s order instituting settled administrative proceedings finds that the Palo Alto, Calif.-based technology company’s subsidiary in Russia paid more than $2 million through agents and various shell companies to a Russian government official to retain a multi-million dollar contract with the federal prosecutor’s office. In Poland, Hewlett-Packard’s subsidiary provided gifts and cash bribes worth more than $600,000 to a Polish government official to obtain contracts with the national police agency. And as part of its bid to win a software sale to Mexico’s state-owned petroleum company, Hewlett-Packard’s subsidiary in Mexico paid more than $1 million in inflated commissions to a consultant with close ties to company officials, and money was funneled to one of those officials.
<snip>
According to the SEC’s order, the scheme involving Hewlett-Packard’s Russian subsidiary occurred from approximately 2000 to 2007. The bribes were paid through agents and consultants in order to win a government contract for computer hardware and software. Employees within the subsidiary and elsewhere raised questions about the significant markup being paid to the agent on the deal and the subcontractors that the agent expected to use. Despite the red flags, the deal went forward without any meaningful due diligence on the agent or the subcontractors.

more at link

ion_theory

(235 posts)
15. It actually doesn't even matter how much she lies IMO...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 02:57 PM
Sep 2015

The votes she is trying to get couldn't care less about the truth. They just want the world to be the way they view it and want a 'leader' to reassure them that it truly is that way.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
16. Hello Folks Brian Here
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015








Folks I know you all know I have been a dirty lying POS of worst possible kind. I have been branded and out casted . I had to live with myself and those lies having been shut out of public life, left alone with the guilt and the humiliation of having been outed.
And I am a better journalist today for it. I'm a changed man today folks and I'm here to tell you I am a truth seeker .
And my mission in life is to search out and expose public figures that are liars wherever they may be.


I am here today to tell you there was not a single truth teller in those debates ,the truth is they are all liars.
Trust me folks, I have changed !

Folks I am sure you all know I have been reassigned to day time programming ,a sign of forgiveness given to me by the network powers that be .
I have presented a proposal to those powers and the idea is a block buster ,a total ratings snatcher. A segment of my program will be titled Brian's Corner . Carly will make a fine outstanding guest of course after she comes into the realization she is living her lies . She hasn't reached bottom yet but I can see she is well on her way down. and when she arrives at rock bottom I will be there . I know what is down there because as you know I have been there !

Brian's corner folks ,coming soon, stay tuned !

DinahMoeHum

(21,633 posts)
17. Carly FIASCOrina.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:11 PM
Sep 2015

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,223 posts)
19. Carly Fugazi, those old Barbara Boxer clips will be enough ...
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:21 PM
Sep 2015

... without laying down new lies to expose.

Justice

(7,182 posts)
21. Carly is only supposed to be going after HRC; they would never let her get the GOP nod.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:26 PM
Sep 2015

nt

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
22. Arrogant smug faced liars are the worst
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 03:27 PM
Sep 2015

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
25. Carly is even stupid enough to talk about her Reaganitis.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:15 PM
Sep 2015

riversedge

(69,162 posts)
26. Fiorina took the truth, and then added some tinsel, in lying to Sean Hannity and Chris Wallace.....
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:21 PM
Sep 2015



...In short, Fiorina took the truth, and then added some tinsel, in lying to Sean Hannity and Chris Wallace...........

Bucky

(53,511 posts)
29. When did "Bri-Wi" become a thing?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:25 PM
Sep 2015

red dog 1

(27,432 posts)
30. K&R...Thanks for posting
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:31 PM
Sep 2015

Are there any GOP presidential candidates who aren't pathological liars?

Gothmog

(142,570 posts)
31. Carly is a liar
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 04:50 PM
Sep 2015

Skittles

(152,842 posts)
32. LOL
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 07:05 PM
Sep 2015

I love it when people act like ignorance is a defense

NonMetro

(631 posts)
33. Is This....like...Unusual For Her?
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 08:13 PM
Sep 2015

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
34. What a nasty piece of work.
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 09:00 PM
Sep 2015

California kicked her evil butt to the curb years ago.

rladdi

(581 posts)
35. If any listener fact checks what is said on Fox NEWS. it is mostly lies. Fox NEWS survives on
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:05 PM
Sep 2015

misinformation and LIES. But that is what there viewers want to hear. Most intelligent and educated people ignore FN.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
36. She is a lying shitstain. k&r, nt
Mon Sep 21, 2015, 10:12 PM
Sep 2015

TexasTowelie

(110,140 posts)
37. Locking thread.
Tue Sep 22, 2015, 05:08 AM
Sep 2015

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