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brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
Tue May 15, 2012, 08:17 PM May 2012

Poll: Wis. Gov. Walker leads Dem opponent by 9 points in recall

Source: The Hill

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), whose controversial legislation restricting state workers' ability to unionize prompted mass protests, is leading his likely Democratic challenger in a recall election by nine points according to a new poll.

Walker has garnered 52 percent of likely voters, according to the We Ask America poll. Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, the top Democratic challenger, came in with 43 percent, with some 5 percent of Wisconsin voters undecided.

The recall will be a rematch for the pair; in 2010, Walker won the general election 52 to 46 percent.

But Walker's lead shrinks among independent voters, among whom the incumbent governor holds just a three-point advantage. That's an encouraging sign for Barrett, who must make inroads among swing voters as well as rally his Democratic base.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/227189-poll-wisc-gov-scott-walker-leads-dem-opponent-by-9-points-in-recall



Some folks here have been chastising the DNC for staying out of the Wisconsin Recall, but if Walker has a lead like this with only a few weeks to go, I'm not sure I'd want them to make a major investment for a race with uncertain results in a year when we'll need every available dollar ready for November. What SHOULD have happened was for the Wisconsin Democrats to resolve their candidate selection internally, without the need for a Primary only a month earlier.
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Poll: Wis. Gov. Walker leads Dem opponent by 9 points in recall (Original Post) brooklynite May 2012 OP
not sure what the WI constitution states littlewolf May 2012 #1
You CAN have a Primary with one candidate... brooklynite May 2012 #2
Its a little tighter Iliyah May 2012 #3
With Walker at 50%, there's not a lot of leeway... brooklynite May 2012 #29
Found this Turbineguy May 2012 #4
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you to find Karl Rove and Denny Hastert are among the "consultants" Bozita May 2012 #5
Remember Turbineguy May 2012 #7
That's what I was wondering when I heard the poll results. Whose poll? ALEC? Overseas May 2012 #10
The "people" love him. RUMMYisFROSTED May 2012 #6
we will find out in June how much love there really is ....nt littlewolf May 2012 #8
Yes, because NorthCarolina May 2012 #21
Did you forget the sarcasm thing? xtraxritical May 2012 #27
Total bullshit right wing robo poll. Others have the Dem slightly ahead and with momentum. RBInMaine May 2012 #9
That is one thing that will make a Tom Barrett victory so delicious SkatmanRoth May 2012 #18
It's not just right wing polls. totodeinhere May 2012 #23
A sad thing for WI. And unbelievable that these folks would still support Walker. nt nanabugg May 2012 #11
this is absolutely tragic. 0rganism May 2012 #12
Not to Mention What Happens in November if Walker an His Cronies Get to Count the Votes in WI AndyTiedye May 2012 #13
the Walker re-election is a harbinger of things to come 0rganism May 2012 #14
If Walker wins by more than 5%, that would be ominous for November golfguru May 2012 #15
Maximum effort is required in Federal Congressional campaigns. xtraxritical May 2012 #28
Getting the word out about how the new voting laws "work" is extremely important 0rganism May 2012 #32
How much Koch money is he spending? MrSlayer May 2012 #16
Is this the poll that was already discredited? Done by Illinois Manufacturers Assn? Scuba May 2012 #17
So true!! n/t http://www.progressive.org/dubious_polls_dnc_foot_dragging.html hue May 2012 #19
Good morning, nice news about the DNC this morning. Scuba May 2012 #20
"We Ask America" --- ??? Evasporque May 2012 #22
Wow, what the fuck happened to Wisconsin? The Stranger May 2012 #24
Voters Tend To Not Like DallasNE May 2012 #25
This isthe key joeglow3 May 2012 #26
No matter how much money is spent and this recall effort going on julian09 May 2012 #30
I don't believe this or any other poll that have that Koch-Sucker in the lead... truebrit71 May 2012 #31

littlewolf

(3,813 posts)
1. not sure what the WI constitution states
Tue May 15, 2012, 08:21 PM
May 2012

but they might have HAD to do a primary ....
rather then internally select someone ..

brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
2. You CAN have a Primary with one candidate...
Tue May 15, 2012, 08:23 PM
May 2012

...allowing him/her to focus on the General election earlier.

I'm not disputing the right of all of the candidates to run, but with only a 30-day window between the Primary and the General, spending time and money on a Primary doesn't help.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
3. Its a little tighter
Tue May 15, 2012, 08:27 PM
May 2012

at the PPP poll which I have total respect for at this time. Something like 50-45 with gains of the independent voters. The DNC has stepped up to the plate so far as to the monetary part although they do have foot soldiers on the ground. The problem here is that Walker is blanketing the air waves with BS commericals because of all the money he has gotten.

I think in a about a week it may be tied or Barrett will be slightly ahead. With that I know the goppers will cheat and try and steal it thats why there needs to be a sizeable % for the Dem.

brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
29. With Walker at 50%, there's not a lot of leeway...
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:46 PM
May 2012

Not saying Barrett can't pull it off, but I'm not going to hold it against DNC for thinking long and hard about spending money here

Turbineguy

(37,207 posts)
4. Found this
Tue May 15, 2012, 08:42 PM
May 2012
http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/527/economic-freedom-alliance.asp

It looks like a repub organization has a poll and to the surprise of everyone predicts a repub win.

Gee, I guess there's no point in voting or voting against Walker cuz he'll win anyway!

SkatmanRoth

(843 posts)
18. That is one thing that will make a Tom Barrett victory so delicious
Wed May 16, 2012, 06:42 AM
May 2012

When the ballots are counted, and the right wing polls are shown to be bad theater, it will be clear which side the hearts of the voters are on.
Showing the right wing polls to be slanted will be a lesson for the polls going into the November election. Obama is going to win, and win big, over Romney even while the polls show the Republican ahead.

totodeinhere

(13,034 posts)
23. It's not just right wing polls.
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:12 AM
May 2012
The latest poll by Daily Kos/Public Policy Polling shows Wisconsin governor Scott Walker leading Democratic challenger Tom Barrett 50% to 45% in the state's gubernatorial recall race. Those are the exact same numbers PPP found prior to the Democratic primary and the exact same results Rasmussen found when it polled the race last week immediately after the Democratic primary.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/05/15/1091948/-New-Daily-Kos-PPP-poll-shows-Wisconsin-gubernatorial-recall-picture-nbsp-unchanged?detail=hide

0rganism

(23,855 posts)
12. this is absolutely tragic.
Wed May 16, 2012, 12:50 AM
May 2012

When Walker wins, and at this point two weeks out it's pretty hard for me to see him not pulling it off, it will be the biggest triumph for neo-conservativism this year, until November rolls around. He'll be paraded around as the poster child for union busting, he'll be on every weekly news show talking up his great victory, he'll be the drum major in the reactionary parade, and he'll have a prime talking spot at the GOP convention. And that's just the start.

The shit he and the complicit legislature will pull on the people of Wisconsin will be irreparable in my lifetime. But hell, I guess they voted for it.

Out-of-state money is flexing its muscles in Wisconsin. Everyone better sit up and pay attention, because it doesn't matter where you are; if races for state offices and ballot measures are close at all, the big money can and will swing it the rest of the way. This is the headstone on democracy's grave.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
13. Not to Mention What Happens in November if Walker an His Cronies Get to Count the Votes in WI
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:29 AM
May 2012

My biggest concern over the November elections is the number of states controlled by teabaggers like Walker.
By my count they control 27 states with 270 electoral votes.

Everything could hinge on the Wisconsin recall.

0rganism

(23,855 posts)
14. the Walker re-election is a harbinger of things to come
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:47 AM
May 2012

It only gets worse from here. Money is power, propaganda works, and they're both going to be in full swing for the foreseeable future. Liberals up our ground game, or everything we gained in the last 100 years goes straight out the window over the next 12.

 

golfguru

(4,987 posts)
15. If Walker wins by more than 5%, that would be ominous for November
Wed May 16, 2012, 04:05 AM
May 2012

Maximum effort is required by all to stop Walker, the union buster.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
28. Maximum effort is required in Federal Congressional campaigns.
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:27 PM
May 2012

We need a filibuster proof majority in the Senate and we need a strong Democratic majority in the House. They can then pass laws trumping T party states. Vote a straight Democratic ballot !

0rganism

(23,855 posts)
32. Getting the word out about how the new voting laws "work" is extremely important
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:39 PM
May 2012

The republicons are doing all they can to prevent college students, minorities, poor, disabled, and elderly from voting through convoluted and onerous voter ID requirements. One thing anyone who lives in a "voter ID" state can do is help others to get the necessary IDs so they can go to the polls in November. I gather the Obama campaign has some outreach along these lines, but we need more. We need people helping their friends and neighbors to overcome the burden of getting such ID figured out months in advance.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
16. How much Koch money is he spending?
Wed May 16, 2012, 04:42 AM
May 2012

They've got to be overloading the airwaves with an avalanche of cash.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
17. Is this the poll that was already discredited? Done by Illinois Manufacturers Assn?
Wed May 16, 2012, 05:51 AM
May 2012

Most polls are designed to shape opinion, not measure it.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
22. "We Ask America" --- ???
Wed May 16, 2012, 09:35 AM
May 2012

WTF poll is that....never heard of it.....

The last poll done in state showed a narrow gap withing the margin or error....

DallasNE

(7,392 posts)
25. Voters Tend To Not Like
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:04 PM
May 2012

Do-over elections like this one. Barrett was a pretty weak candidate in 2010 and that adds to the problem. Democrats didn't appear to choose wisely here.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
26. This isthe key
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
May 2012

There was an attempt to recall our Democratic mayor who was not very popular. While the majority wanted him gone, more than enough did not like the idea of a "do-over" election that the recall failed. I have been afraid from the start that we would see the same thing here.

 

julian09

(1,435 posts)
30. No matter how much money is spent and this recall effort going on
Wed May 16, 2012, 01:55 PM
May 2012

over a year; that the people of Wisconsin don't know what is happening in their own state. Money can't change the facts, the state with the worst jobs creation, tax cuts for corporations at expense of education, killing equal pay for women, conspiracy to destroy union barganing. What more do they need to recall the guy bought by the Koch Bros. He may yet be charged with something, so he has a defense fund.
If people in Wisconsin vote him back in, it would be a disgrace.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
31. I don't believe this or any other poll that have that Koch-Sucker in the lead...
Wed May 16, 2012, 02:11 PM
May 2012

...everything I have seen indicates that he is DEEPLY unpopular and will be thrown out on his ear...

News like this only fires up the (Dem) opposition base and ensures that they get out and vote....but if Walker somehow survives, Wisconsin folks are well and truly fucked...

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