Marshall says 'sodomy is not a civil right'
Source: Richmond Times-Dispatch (Virginia)
In a testy interview today with CNN's Brooke Baldwin on the Virginia legislature's recent refusal to appoint openly gay Richmond prosecutor Tracy Thorne-Begland to a judgeship, Del. Robert G. Marshall, R-Prince William, declared that "sodomy is not a civil right."
Marshall, a U.S. Senate candidate and one of the General Assembly's most conservative members, denied that he had lobbied against Thorne-Begland because he is gay, but instead termed him an "activist."
Marshall rejected Baldwin's comparison of the issue to civil rights and women's suffrage, remarking: "Sodomy is not a civil right. It's not the same as the civil rights movement."
Read more: http://www2.timesdispatch.com/news/virginia-politics/2012/may/17/marshall-says-sodomy-is-not-a-civil-right-ar-1922377/
These are seriously troubling times in Virginia.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)he cannot see gay people beyond their sex lives, the same way he cannot see immigrants beyond their legal status.....if you're not rich, white, male and straight, and American-born, there's always some other factor that is more important than your right to be treated fairly as a human being
That's it exactly.
asjr
(10,479 posts)AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)And we can see how boring and depleted his sex life is.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Tell me if I am wrong, but I don't think he sees the point.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)same as it ever was
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)(...come on...y'all were thinkin' it...)
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Marshall needs to stay out of people's bedrooms. Snooping into others' bedrooms is not a Constitutional right, it is a deviation of our right to privacy in our homes, the 4th Constitutional Amendment.
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)This guy is a neanderthal.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Virginia must have some, uh, unique requirements for their judges. In Oregon, we just want them to know and apply the law.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)when he made that pronouncement.
47of74
(18,470 posts)Hopefully right before this tool comes up for election.
Bucky
(54,005 posts)You have a right to privacy. Sodomy is very much included among our civil rights.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)That guy is a disgusting creep. Definitely has issues.
The Wielding Truth
(11,415 posts)adults!
marble falls
(57,081 posts)montanto
(2,966 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)cindyperry2010
(846 posts)by psychology today? The most virulent homophobes are deep deep deep in the closet ?
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)swimboy
(7,284 posts)I agree with you. People like Marshall give us plenty of other valid and verifiable reasons for criticizing, even insulting them. I am NOT comfortable with the supposition that the most active of LGBT opponents are themselves LGBT. I also think going all in with that type of response undercuts the more reasoned and fact-based responses.
If however, an opponent should happen to go all Ted Haggard on us? Pile on and don't spare the horses (to mix a metaphor)!
swimboy
(7,284 posts)Victoria Cobb is the Executive Director of the Virginia Family Foundation (http://familyfoundation.org/)
Her group sends out fear-mongering bulletins that warn Virginians whenever there is a danger that someone will treat LGBT people fairly. As she puts it regarding the Thorne-Begland vote: "General Assembly Votes to Ensure Judicial Integrity"
24601
(3,962 posts)is a landmark decision by the United States Supreme Court. In the 6-3 ruling, the Court struck down the sodomy law in Texas and, by extension, invalidated sodomy laws in thirteen other states, making same-sex sexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas
SoutherDem
(2,307 posts)chollybocker
(3,687 posts)What consenting adults do behind closed doors, including sodomy, is still protected IN LAW by Lawrence v. Texas. This guy is wrong in every respect. Who votes for these ignoramuses?
beac
(9,992 posts)narrow-minded bigot uncomfortable.
Here's Sideshow Bob's contact info should anyone wish to join me in mailing/faxing or calling to read a copy of Lawrence v. Texas:
Robert G. Marshall
Delegate of 13th District
P.O. Box 421
Manassas, VA 20108
703 361 5416 (office and fax)
703 853 4213 (cell) (preferred)
Since he "prefers" we call him on his cell, I say we keep that thing ringing all day and night.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,643 posts)"It's a distraction when I'm on the battlefield and have to concentrate on the enemy 600 yards away and I'm worried about this guy who's got eyes on me."
Sorry, Bob.... not gonna happen. Even if you were 20 years old instead of 112.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)You know he probably molests innocent animals or something equally perverse.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Now, why on Earth would he think the gay soldier isn't trying to do the same thing instead of checking out his fat ass? The gay soldier is in danger from YOU, Bob, if you would be so irrationally distracted in such a situation! Your homophobia is harmful to the platoon! We cannot allow homophobes to serve!
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)when it happened. this may not be the same things as civil rights in the 60' but these same people were against civil rights in the 60's too.
47of74
(18,470 posts)...with the word homosexual in their rants. Word for word their rants are pretty much the same ones they used to rail against civil rights or communism (which in many cases was their blanket term for treating anyone on the same level as white males).
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)were hardly friends of african americans either.
this is why i find it so ridiculous when old white GOP men start talking about how this is not the same as civil rights. maybe, its not the same, but its not like you guys loved the civil rights movement either.
smh
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Or sodomy as defined in the UCMJ as applied to people in the military.
Faygo Kid
(21,478 posts)Not just him - also the bigots who voted for him.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Afraid to say he opposed Thorne-Begland because he's gay.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)but as for the rest of us..............
provis99
(13,062 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)if Mrs Marshall is a 'proper' lady she exercises her civil right to say no
cindyperry2010
(846 posts)Laughing Mirror
(4,185 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Lawrence v. Texas.
All this controversy has done is to make Bob McDonnell look reasonable when he surely does not deserve such a classification.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I've got ten bucks on July 4th at the latest.
swimboy
(7,284 posts)On the day he is exposed as a closeted gay man, pile on. Until then, don't make unfounded allegations that he's so twisted that he must be gay, please.
It's just that that's how it's played out with so many of these types.
But I'll leave it for now.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)sex acts between man and women in the same way??
Reminds me of the places in the US where you can't even buy vibrators. Effing puritans.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)Yeah, try telling heterosexuals they can't have oral sex. LOLOLOL.
good luck getting votes with that one. Vote Republican! They hate it when you enjoy consensual sex and foreplay!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)would disagree with this. I will not say more.
1Greensix
(111 posts)Marshall is like all conservatives. He's against gay men, but loves watching girl-on-girl porn on his computer. What a dirtbag. Who cares what people do with their love lives anyway? No one by Republicans, who want government out of their lives, but wnat it into someone else's life Greedy, homophobic, racists. Shoot them all, and the world would be a lot better off. The Civil War was LOST a hundred and fifty years ago, buttheads. You LOST. Get over it. If it happened again today, you'd lose even worse.
mikeytherat
(6,829 posts)The mere fact that it sure is does not compute with them. I raised this very question about 20 years ago, when two very conservative friends of mine were watching girl-on-girl porn. I asked them why they were watching gay porn, and they looked at me like I was nuts. Then one said, "Are you a fag?" I haven't spoken to either one since.
mikey_the_rat
Salviati
(6,008 posts)that the right to love whomever you want is included in the "pursuit of happiness", thus is an unalienable right; the type that laws _should_ be made to protect.
(Edit to correct grammar, I hope, and to change the emphasis to respond more pointedly to the subject)
Ian David
(69,059 posts)At the very least, we should be asking Del. Robert G. Marshall about his own, personal, sexual history at every public opportunity. Since he thinks it's important enough to disqualify someone from a judgeship.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Flubadubya
(5,831 posts)Honey, if it's my sex it's "sodomy"... if it's your sex it's DIVINE!
undeterred
(34,658 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)just obsessing on how awful and sinful it is. it's all they ever talk about ffs.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)But we don't tell Robert Marshall what he can do in his office.
PurityOfEssence
(13,150 posts)Just sayin'...
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)"there's no difference" is a load of horseshit. I, for one, don't want a repeat of 2000 when some were fooled into thinking that Gore = Bush. It wasn't true then, and Obama certainly doesn't = Mittens.
It's worth asking yourself if the person or persons who are disseminating this bs are actually working for your benefit, or if there's another "agenda" at play.
RainDog
(28,784 posts)(not to mention Lawrence v. Texas)
According to the Supreme Court, "liberty" interests have their source in the Constitution.It is grounded in the 14th Amendment and this liberty interest exists for heterosexuals as well.
Sodomy is oral sex too, not just anal. Pry from my cold dead fingers and all that, you Puritan killjoy. lol.
Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)PB