Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:21 AM
Jesus Malverde (10,274 posts)
Netanyahu Retracts Assertion That Palestinian Inspired Holocaust
Source: NY Times
After more than a week of local and international condemnation, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel issued a statement on Friday retracting his accusation that it was a Palestinian cleric who gave Hitler the idea of annihilating Europe’s Jews during World War II. Mr. Netanyahu, criticized even by Israeli historians for distorting facts, had already said he never intended to absolve Hitler of responsibility for the Holocaust by blaming the mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, but the new statement went further. “The decision to move from a policy of deporting Jews to the Final Solution was made by the Nazis and was not dependent on outside influence,” Mr. Netanyahu posted on Facebook, in Hebrew and English. “The Nazis saw in the Mufti a collaborator, but they did not need him to decide on the systematic destruction of European Jewry, which began in June 1941.” He went on: “Contrary to the impression that was created, I did not mean to claim that in his conversation with Hitler in November 1941 the Mufti convinced him to adopt the Final Solution. The Nazis decided on that by themselves.” Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/31/world/middleeast/netanyahu-retracts-assertion-that-palestinian-inspired-holocaust.html https://m.
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Jesus Malverde | Oct 2015 | OP |
Jesus Malverde | Oct 2015 | #1 | |
MisterP | Oct 2015 | #11 | |
Chemisse | Oct 2015 | #15 | |
Spitfire of ATJ | Oct 2015 | #2 | |
Chakab | Oct 2015 | #3 | |
Yupster | Oct 2015 | #4 | |
Darb | Oct 2015 | #5 | |
Sunlei | Oct 2015 | #6 | |
Mosby | Oct 2015 | #7 | |
Sunlei | Oct 2015 | #8 | |
BumRushDaShow | Oct 2015 | #9 | |
Sunlei | Oct 2015 | #12 | |
The Second Stone | Oct 2015 | #10 | |
Sunlei | Oct 2015 | #13 | |
The Second Stone | Oct 2015 | #17 | |
Chemisse | Oct 2015 | #16 | |
Babel_17 | Oct 2015 | #14 |
Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:26 AM
Jesus Malverde (10,274 posts)
1. What’s wrong with Netanyahu?
So how did this son of a “renowned historian” come to say this crazy thing? Perhaps he heard it from some crackpot hired by Sheldon Adelson — but even so, the fact that he did not reject it outright shows not only that he is a complete ignoramus about the most important chapter in modern Jewish history, but also that he may have some mental problem. In this light, many others of his decisions now look different, including this week’s decision to take measures to cancel the “inhabitant” status of tens of thousands of Arab Jerusalemites. Now I am afraid. If indeed we are governed by a man with mental problems — just where is he leading us? — He is an Israeli writer and former member of Knesset. http://www.arabnews.com/columns/news/828276 |
Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #1)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:36 PM
MisterP (23,730 posts)
11. the crazier he talks the more money and leeway he gets
Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #1)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:24 PM
Chemisse (30,737 posts)
15. He will say anything to rev up the populace to support increased brutality toward the Palestinians.
I was expecting him to next suggest a mass killing in retribution.
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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:31 AM
Spitfire of ATJ (32,723 posts)
2. Too late....
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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 03:53 AM
Chakab (1,727 posts)
3. How are we supposed to take his government seriously with regards to the Palestinian conflict,
he's essentially said that he thinks the Palestinians are worse than the Nazis?
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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 05:01 AM
Yupster (14,308 posts)
4. I'm just finishing a biography of Goebbels
At 900 pages, it's taken me forever.
Anyway, it's based on his diaries and it is just chock full of surprises. Did anyone know Hitler was a good bowler? I didn't. Anyway, as Gauleiter of Berlin, Goebbels was constantly bugging Hitler to let him remove the 70,000 Jews living there.He lamented that it kept getting delayed, and then went on forever. I was surprised how much Goebbels talked of Hitler telling him that after the war the Jews would be removed to Madagascar which would have a German governor. He liked the idea for another reason that the climate would make it difficult for the Jews to thrive there. I had heard the Madagascar stuff before and always just assumed it was a joke or just a one time snide comment, but Hitler talked about it for years, really until Barbarosa where all the sudden the numbers became overwhelming. Anyway, a very good book, just clock full of stuff I didn't know and I was a history teacher. |
Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:18 AM
Darb (2,807 posts)
5. He already jumped the shark.
I hope it is his downfall. Israel cannot move forward with a leader like him. He should resign.
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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 09:38 AM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
6. “The Nazis saw in the Mufti a collaborator" yes, there were many " collaborators" from local people
all the way to Corporations and entire countries.
Netanyahu himself has an amazing bibliography. One of the first actually born in Israel. He fought fiercely in those wars that were intended to destroy his homeland. Israel didn't have much if any outside help either. He lost both brothers in those wars. |
Response to Sunlei (Reply #6)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:24 AM
Mosby (15,018 posts)
7. yoni died during the raid of entebbe
And his younger brother Iddo is a radiologist living in Israel.
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Response to Mosby (Reply #7)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 10:51 AM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
8. ah yes, you're right. The man has such a full history, I had to go back and review his history.
He lucky he survived, I can understand why he is considered a National Hero.
In 1976 Netanyahu's older brother Yonatan Netanyahu was killed. Yonatan was serving as the commander of Benjamin's former unit, the Sayeret Matkal, and died during the counter-terrorism hostage-rescue mission Operation Entebbe in which his unit rescued more than 100 Israeli hostages hijacked by terrorists and flown to the Entebbe Airport in Uganda. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Netanyahu |
Response to Sunlei (Reply #8)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 12:06 PM
BumRushDaShow (118,348 posts)
9. He also went to high school not far from me
out in Montgomery County PA (Cheltenham High). I drive by it all the time.
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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #9)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:58 PM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
12. yes a couple years in America during high school & some college years too.
That's where he became good buddies, a lifelong contact with Romney and his "Gang".
There is not much about his parents history, they must have been very involved in the early set-up of Israel. A Family with some money and government/global connections. |
Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 01:07 PM
The Second Stone (2,900 posts)
10. So is he going to revise the policies based on his false premises?
Or is he going to keep them?
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Response to The Second Stone (Reply #10)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:02 PM
Sunlei (22,651 posts)
13. What policy is that?
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Response to Sunlei (Reply #13)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 11:18 PM
The Second Stone (2,900 posts)
17. Genocide
Response to The Second Stone (Reply #10)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 07:25 PM
Chemisse (30,737 posts)
16. I don't think he's had time to change any policies over this.
Although that was probably his intention.
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Response to Jesus Malverde (Original post)
Sat Oct 31, 2015, 02:09 PM
Babel_17 (5,400 posts)