Bernie Sanders Takes Gloves Off Against Hillary Clinton in Interview

[Omaha Steve]

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Source: WSJ

By PETER NICHOLAS

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is drawing sharper distinctions with front-runner Hillary Clinton, casting her policy reversals over the years as a character issue that voters should take into account when they evaluate the Democratic field.

Sen. Sanders of Vermont, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday, also said the federal investigation of the security surrounding Mrs. Clinton’s private email account is appropriate.

In the Democratic debate last month, Mr. Sanders said voters were “sick and tired” of the focus on Mrs. Clinton’s “damn emails.” Afterward, many Democrats and political analysts said that he had appeared to dismiss her use of a private email account and server in her four years as secretary of state.

Mr. Sanders rejected that assessment on Wednesday. If her email practices foiled public-records requests or compromised classified information, those are “valid questions,” Mr. Sanders said.

FULL story at link.


Sen. Bernie Sanders, the candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination, speaks about fossil fuels outside the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday. PHOTO: JIM LO SCALZO/EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY

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Place your bets. How many will complain this isn't LBN worthy?

[Demeter]

1. All the MSM wants is a Cage Match, or anything that can be played as one

The future of the human race, or even just the citizens of the US, means little or nothing to them.

[VanillaRhapsody]

3. This is now about the future of the human race?

[A Simple Game]

4. You really need to keep up.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/04/bernie-sanders-climate-campaign-fossil-fuel-extraction

Then again maybe you don't think it matters.

[VanillaRhapsody]

6. Oh come on

If a Dem wins....but not the one you want.....it means death and destruction for all mankind!

[A Simple Game]

7. Are you going on record to say that Hillary will curb fossil fuel development in the US

and encourage alternate energy production?

[VanillaRhapsody]

9. Are you going to say that

Bernie can? Any Democrat will try....and will only make some progress....

Even Jimmy freaking Carter couldnt do it...

ALL Democrats...even Hillary will try...

President Hillary is not the end of the world.....you will survive!


You really have fallen for the false meme that she is a Republican haven't you....drank that whole glass of Koolaid!

[VanillaRhapsody]

15. Yes I will....

Obama & I crashed China meeting and got climate change deal. (Oct 2015)
Take opportunity of climate change to raise our economy. (Oct 2015)
I now oppose Keystone, but I withheld opinion at first. (Oct 2015)
$100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation. (Jun 2014)
$100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation. (Jun 2014)
The steady march of climate change is obvious in the Arctic. (Jun 2014)
Get tough with energy speculators and with OPEC cartel. (May 2008)
Gas tax holiday, paid for by windfall oil tax. (May 2008)
GovWatch: Gas tax holiday saves $8B; but that’s 64 cents/day. (May 2008)
Investigate gas price manipulation; add windfall profits tax. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, FTC is investigating gas price manipulation. (Apr 2008)
Cap-and-trade as president; compact fluorescents at home. (Apr 2008)
$650 for help with energy bills to those who can’t afford it. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Oil & gas giveaways stripped from final 2005 Bill. (Jan 2008)
Investigate & move toward energy efficiency and conservation. (Oct 2007)
Opposes Yucca Mountain; earthquake fault goes under it. (Sep 2007)
Led delegation, with McCain, to see effects of polar warming. (Sep 2007)
Invest in alternative energy; jobs that won’t be outsourced. (Aug 2007)
End Big Oil tax break; $50 billion for strategic energy fund. (Jul 2007)
Agnostic about nuclear power until waste & cost issue solved. (Jul 2007)
FactCheck: There was no Big Oil tax break under Bush-Cheney. (Jul 2007)
Energy Independence 2020: $50B for Strategic Energy Fund. (Jun 2007)
Extensive funding into alternative energy. (Jun 2007)
Will make big oil fund alternative energy research. (Feb 2007)
$50B strategic energy fund from taxing oil companies. (Oct 2006)
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us. (Jun 2006)
Need to move toward energy efficiency and conservation. (Jan 2006)
Supports oil reserve release & fund conservation. (Oct 2000)
Voting Record

Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit. (Sep 2000)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)
Voted NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases. (Aug 2000)
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy. (Mar 2004)
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
Require public notification when nuclear releases occur. (Mar 2006)
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness. (Nov 2007)
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025. (Jan 2007)
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards. (Jan 2008)
Gas tax holiday for the summer. (Apr 2008)


Its now laughable YOU saying she won't!

[Francois9]

44. She will do whatever her rich contributors want her to do.

You know it, and I know it.

[VanillaRhapsody]

46. Oh and just ignore the ^^^^^ actual record huh?

because it doesn't fit your false narrative...and I KNOW that!


even more laughable.....and desperate.

[Bubzer]

55. Her actual record of being a flip flopper who changes her position to fit political winds?

Such as the 45 times she endorsed the TPP, including calling it the gold standard... and then flip flopping because of how overwhelmingly unpopular the TPP is with people? I find that record very hard to ignore.

[VanillaRhapsody]

59. Not your false narrative...the ^^^ actual record I posted that proves it!

Its laughable...

[Bubzer]

71. You're right, her actual record matters

A whole host of avoiding responsibility for her own votes and flip flopping and issues. Hillary's lack of good judgment is clear.

Iraq War

•I got it wrong on 2002 Iraq War vote. (Jun 2014)
•OpEd: Iraq war follows tradition of active US leadership. (Jun 2012)
•OpEd: 2003 Iraq vote unmistakably authorized war. (Nov 2010)
•2002: Saddam gave sanctuary to terrorists including Al Qaeda. (Oct 2010)
•2007: Avoided war apology to avoid "flip-flopper" label. (Jan 2010)
•2007: Opposed funding Iraq War; no escalation. (Aug 2009)
•2002: Saddam gave aid to Al Qaeda terrorists. (Oct 2008)
•Up to the Iraqis to decide the future they will have. (Feb 2008)
•Some tactical success in Iraq, but no strategic success yet. (Feb 2008)
•Leaving 130,000 troops in Iraq is irresponsible abdication. (Jan 2008)
•Have nearly all combat troops out in a year. (Jan 2008)
•Voted against precedent of US subordinate to UN in Iraq. (Jan 2008)
•Iraq war authorization was not authority for preemption. (Jan 2008)
•Told by the White House how the war resolution would be used. (Jan 2008)
•Withdrawing troops is dangerous, including 100,000 civilians. (Jan 2008)
•No military solution in Iraq; this debate motivates solution. (Jan 2008)
•Called war on terror “Bush’s war” but has played active role. (Nov 2007)
•2002: Accepted connection between Saddam & Al Qaeda. (Nov 2007)
•Leave combat troops in Iraq only for conterterrorism. (Sep 2007)
•Pentagon calls her unpatriotic for asking about exit plan. (Jul 2007)
•Bush misused authorization for war. (Jun 2007)
•The Iraq war is Bush’s war. (Jun 2007)
•Iraq war wouldn’t have happened had the inspectors been sent. (Jun 2007)
•It was a mistake to trust Bush on his judgment to wage war. (Jun 2007)
•This war is up to Iraqi people to win or lose, not the US. (Apr 2007)
•No permanent bases, but continuing residual force in Iraq. (Apr 2007)
•Takes responsibility for Iraq war vote, but not a mistake. (Feb 2007)
•OpEd: Voting for war enabled criticizing how it was waged. (Oct 2005)
•2002 Iraq speech criticized both Saddam and U.N. (Feb 2004)
•2002: Attacking Iraq "not a good option" but authorized it. (Feb 2004)

[VanillaRhapsody]

73. Yeah you are right it does...

Hillary Clinton is a Hard-Core Liberal.

http://ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

[randys1]

76. You know what a hoot we gonna have when President Carson announces there is no climate

change

We are gonna laugh

We are gonna just have a good ole time

[Bubzer]

79. Good to know you agree. Next question; when are you going to hold her to account for IRW vote?

[freedom fighter jh]

5. The US needs to lead the world on climate change.

To anyone who does not look very closely, it's not immediately clear what either candidate would do about climate change, because the media have not focused on the issue. Climate change is a crisis for all of humanity.

I don't know if that's what Demeter was referring to, but it's one way the future of the human race hangs on this election.

[VanillaRhapsody]

18. Yeah perfectly clear

Hillary on Energy...

Obama & I crashed China meeting and got climate change deal. (Oct 2015)
Take opportunity of climate change to raise our economy. (Oct 2015)
I now oppose Keystone, but I withheld opinion at first. (Oct 2015)
$100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation. (Jun 2014)
$100B per year by 2020 for climate change mitigation. (Jun 2014)
The steady march of climate change is obvious in the Arctic. (Jun 2014)
Get tough with energy speculators and with OPEC cartel. (May 2008)
Gas tax holiday, paid for by windfall oil tax. (May 2008)
GovWatch: Gas tax holiday saves $8B; but that’s 64 cents/day. (May 2008)
Investigate gas price manipulation; add windfall profits tax. (Apr 2008)
FactCheck: Yes, FTC is investigating gas price manipulation. (Apr 2008)
Cap-and-trade as president; compact fluorescents at home. (Apr 2008)
$650 for help with energy bills to those who can’t afford it. (Jan 2008)
FactCheck: Oil & gas giveaways stripped from final 2005 Bill. (Jan 2008)
Investigate & move toward energy efficiency and conservation. (Oct 2007)
Opposes Yucca Mountain; earthquake fault goes under it. (Sep 2007)
Led delegation, with McCain, to see effects of polar warming. (Sep 2007)
Invest in alternative energy; jobs that won’t be outsourced. (Aug 2007)
End Big Oil tax break; $50 billion for strategic energy fund. (Jul 2007)
Agnostic about nuclear power until waste & cost issue solved. (Jul 2007)
FactCheck: There was no Big Oil tax break under Bush-Cheney. (Jul 2007)
Energy Independence 2020: $50B for Strategic Energy Fund. (Jun 2007)
Extensive funding into alternative energy. (Jun 2007)
Will make big oil fund alternative energy research. (Feb 2007)
$50B strategic energy fund from taxing oil companies. (Oct 2006)
Remove energy dependence on countries who would harm us. (Jun 2006)
Need to move toward energy efficiency and conservation. (Jan 2006)
Supports oil reserve release & fund conservation. (Oct 2000)
Voting Record

Ratify Kyoto; more mass transit. (Sep 2000)
Voted YES on removing oil & gas exploration subsidies. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on making oil-producing and exporting cartels illegal. (Jun 2007)
Voted YES on factoring global warming into federal project planning. (May 2007)
Voted YES on disallowing an oil leasing program in Alaska's ANWR. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on $3.1B for emergency oil assistance for hurricane-hit areas. (Oct 2005)
Voted YES on reducing oil usage by 40% by 2025 (instead of 5%). (Jun 2005)
Voted YES on banning drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. (Mar 2005)
Voted NO on Bush Administration Energy Policy. (Jul 2003)
Voted YES on targeting 100,000 hydrogen-powered vehicles by 2010. (Jun 2003)
Voted YES on removing consideration of drilling ANWR from budget bill. (Mar 2003)
Voted NO on drilling ANWR on national security grounds. (Apr 2002)
Voted NO on terminating CAFE standards within 15 months. (Mar 2002)
Supports tradable emissions permits for greenhouse gases. (Aug 2000)
Keep efficient air conditioner rule to conserve energy. (Mar 2004)
Establish greenhouse gas tradeable allowances. (Feb 2005)
Require public notification when nuclear releases occur. (Mar 2006)
Rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)
Designate sensitive ANWR area as protected wilderness. (Nov 2007)
Set goal of 25% renewable energy by 2025. (Jan 2007)
Let states define stricter-than-federal emission standards. (Jan 2008)
Gas tax holiday for the summer. (Apr 2008)


If you are suggesting she won't....you have become laughable now too..

[shawn703]

22. How is "Gas tax holiday for the summer. (Apr 2008)" good environmental policy?

That would seem to encourage, rather than discourage, the use of gas powered, polluting vehicles.

[VanillaRhapsody]

23. You picked out one bullet point out of all that?

and that proves this hilariously false meme?

The cost of gas in June of 2008, the early stages of the heavy summer driving season and during the presidential campaign, was $4.10 per gallon. The 2008 gas crisis hit its peak one month later with prices averaging $4.11 per gallon.

[freedom fighter jh]

86. What suggests to you that I am suggesting anything at all about Hillary?

I was answering your comment "This is now about the future of the human race?" That comment was in response to Demeter's comment about the MSM.

But go ahead and laugh at me for stuff you're making up.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

10. Hell yes. Based on scientific opinion,

we are indeed in peril of extinction on our current path. Do you really want to disagree with that?

The other party is the one denying our risk!

[Kalidurga]

2. The hand wringers should be by shortly claiming this is a smear against Hillary.

[24601]

8. So Bernie is saying that while we are tired of hearing about HRC's emails, the public records and

compromise of classified information issues remain "valid questions". So I guess we need to take our medicine and force ourselves to keep going until accountability accompanies the responsibility that Mrs. Clinton says lies with her.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

11. Or until her flunky

quits pleading the Fifth.

[24601]

14. Congress could get anyone pleading the 5th to testify by granting immunity - then the ability to

take the 5th goes away. Not a real risk given there isn't going to be any prosecution anyway and giving up the chance to jail a subordinate is a small price for getting the truth out. If HRC really wanted to get the facts disclosed, rather than calling for cooperation, she would instead be seeking immunity for her former subordinates.

[yeoman6987]

53. For all crimes? You'd have many pleading the 5th then

[Laser102]

12. So now that the polls are reflecting Hillary rising, Bernie feels the emails are valid fodder right?

Shame on him. He was looking pretty good until he became just another politician.

[blackspade]

13. ..."Looking pretty good until"....

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

16. Oh you didn't!

[riversedge]

17. Perhaps the new

pollster(s) that he recently hired suggested this was a good issue?? to flip flop on???

[Bubzer]

40. I think your confused.

Bernie said the American people were tired of hearing about Hillary's e-mails...and then he went on to point out that the media was focusing on that to the exclusion of far more important issues.

Nowhere in his statement did he say or even suggest ending the investigation.
Hillary supporters are upset because they took his statement to mean the e-mails should be ignored... or that the investigation was illegitimate.

The reality is Bernie attacked the media for being hyper focused on it instead of issues that matter.
In no way does that even come close to suggesting that the investigation should cease.

[riversedge]

48. Dem leaders in Congress have called to shut down this committee but now Sanders wants

it go on unimpeded --he now agrees with Trey!!!

[Bubzer]

50. "Leaders in Congress" do not speak for Bernie Sanders. Again, there is no flip flop here.

He wants the media to butt-out. He never said the investigation should stop.
This is smoke and mirrors, nothing more.

[riversedge]

54. CBS: Sanders does about-face on Clinton's private email controversy

Sanders flip flop gets around.....



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sanders-does-about-face-on-clintons-private-email-controversy/

By Rebecca Shabad CBS News November 5, 2015, 10:49 AM


Sanders does about-face on Clinton's private email controversy

Sen. Bernie Sanders is shifting away from comments he made about Hillary Clinton's personal email account at the first Democratic presidential debate when he said voters are "sick and tired" hearing about her "damn emails."

"You get 12 seconds to say these things," he said in an interview with the Wall Street Journal about his original comments at the Oct. 13 debate.

But Sanders indicated in the interview that he didn't intend to give Clinton a free pass.

"There's an investigation going on right now. I did not say, 'End the investigation.' That's silly....Let the investigation proceed unimpeded," he said. .............

[Bubzer]

56. Okay, thats a repost of the same story through a different avenue.

That doesn't prove your narrative.

[riversedge]

58. My point is that Sanders flip floping is making the rounds

cable, networks etc.

[Bubzer]

64. My point is that just because it's circulating the networks, that doesn't make it factual.

I shouldn't even need to state that to a fellow Dem...

[riversedge]

67. Oh, I know your point from the start.

Now that you know my point. --->Enough said. I will agree to disagree.

[Bubzer]

72. I will agree to continue to fight the false characterization you're perpetuating.

[Babel_17]

57. I'm seeing a conflation between the Republican led "Benghazi committee", and the FBI investigation.

I agree that Senator Sanders doesn't care for the Republicans, or the press, obsessing over Secretary Clinton's correspondences by e-mail.

But that obsession with what Clinton said in her e-mails is one thing, and that nonsense was addressed by Sanders, but the FBI investigation into the private servers handling of State Department e-mails is another.

They have few points in common.

[riversedge]

68. Seems like Sanders best get out there and clarify this part of his

interview.

[frylock]

70. It's clear as day to anyone who doesn't have an agenda.

[Babel_17]

75. Lol, I hadn't seen your post before my reply, honest!

[Babel_17]

74. It's as clear as day to me. How can the FBI investigation be misunderstood?

Senator Sanders was straightforward in the debate. We are all tired of having our time wasted by childish poking at Secretary Clinton's legitimate correspondence by email.

But in no way could what Senator Sanders said be taken as denigrating, or minimizing, the FBI investigation. Some in the media, with the sensibility of junior high students, are hoping they can instigate a quotable spat. "He said ..."

The FBI investigation is what it is, and Sanders position on it reflects what I see as the majority view among Democrats. I just see the use of that private server as a matter of judgment, and style. Both being bad, and hurting our party. But nobody is really arguing that. The polling is clear. The silver lining, and it's big, is that the issue of trust isn't hammering at Secretary Clinton's overall electability numbers.

Those numbers were closely watched, and are part of the reason, imo, that Vice President Biden decided not to enter the race.

[frylock]

69. Sanders is talking about the ongoing FBI investigation..

completely separate matter from the committee "investigation".

[VanillaRhapsody]

19. He became irrelevant as soon as he decided to run in OUR primary...

but without becoming ONE of us!

[Omaha Steve]

20. You realize why he wouldn't want to be one of you?

[VanillaRhapsody]

24. then WHY is he in OUR Primary?

Maybe he should have had his own....since he is a Socialist and has so much disdain for our way of life...

[Omaha Steve]

25. Which part is disdain?

Civil rights, anti-war vote, against TPP and NAFTA, expand Social Security,....

[VanillaRhapsody]

26. the part where he wouldn't dare BE one of us...

Democrats are anti-civil rights? and anti Social security? too?

YES its disdain...and its arrogant.

[Omaha Steve]

27. So you want him to run as an I

And hand the General Election to the R's like a reverse Ross Perot? A DUer just got kicked out for talking like that.

Hillary can't win without all of us and the I's. Same for Bernie.

[VanillaRhapsody]

28. No I want him to say he IS a Democrat....

OR go run as the Socialist he claimed to be just 6 yrs ago...or I or whatever other party he cares to actually JOIN!

Him NOT running as a Dem does not hand it to the R's

We have our DEMOCRATIC candidate....who is doing quite well thank you very much! Democrats will not become I's as much as YOU think.

[Omaha Steve]

30. You really think Hillary doesn't need the I's and all the D's to win?

[VanillaRhapsody]

31. I do not....plenty of those I's will STILL vote for Hillary!

because they STILL want to beat the Republicans....and he with an I or S behind his name is not going to win...full stop!

Just because he ran as an Indie...doesn't automatically mean all "Indie's" will vote for him...they are Independent after all.

[Omaha Steve]

32. .

[VanillaRhapsody]

33. Yeah...laugh at the truth!

[Omaha Steve]

34. .

[Omaha Steve]

35. I should thank you for continuing to kick this to the top of the forum

[VanillaRhapsody]

37. You are welcome....

thanks for making me laugh out loud...

All the Indies would take their dollies and go home!

[fbc]

39. And many of us want Hillary to BE a democrat

Can't get everything you wish for I guess.

But if you would rather vote for the republican who says she is a democrat rather than the democrat who says he is a democratic socialist, that's certainly your perogative.

[VanillaRhapsody]

41. SHE is.....you don't have to like it...

What part of this: (is not a Democrat)




Stop lying about Democrats and maybe you will be taken more seriously.


By the way...here is Elizabeth Warren's




Notice anything similar?

(gawd the purge cannot come soon enough)

[fbc]

42. that's nonsense

Did you draw that yourself?

[VanillaRhapsody]

43. No....but Nate Silver seems to think they are just fine...

[Bubzer]

45. So, by your own litmus test, Bernie is a True Blue Dem... either that, or your graph doesn't matter.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Bernie_Sanders.htm

[VanillaRhapsody]

47. NO because Bernie says he isn't one...

and 6 yrs ago...he said he was a full blown Socialist....has he walked THAT back yet?

[Bubzer]

49. You JUST made the argument that because of YOUR graph, Hillary is a Dem.

But that same argument doesn't apply to Bernie?

[VanillaRhapsody]

60. She calls herself one...

does he?

[Bubzer]

61. Your graph either matters or it doesn't. Which is it?

[VanillaRhapsody]

83. bullshit...when your candidate DOES call themselves a SOCIALIST

but not a Democrat! Of course a SOCIALIST would be on the Farthest left of that graph now wouldn't they?

It's not a graph about how Democrat you are.....she calls herself a Democrat and has a record (the results create the graph) to prove it....

Now you could be a Republican.....if you are....I would expect to see your dot someplace over to the Right....but if they called themselves a fascist...they would be on the farthest Right wouldn't they?

[KansDem]

63. He's a Democratic Socialist

That should be democratic enough for the Democrats...

[VanillaRhapsody]

66. thats not a Democrat....that is a Socialist....who likes elections...but not Capitalism.

Here he is 6 yrs ago calling himself a full on Socialist..

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/must-read/sanders-socialist-successes


He could have called himself a Socialist Democrat....if he wasn't opposed to all Capitalism I suppose. Socialist Democrats believe in Regulated Capitalism, A strong Social Safety Net and a Welfare State. Democratic Socialists believe everything that normal full on Socialists believe....they just believe in an elected form of government.

[fbc]

80. You should probably spend a few minutes looking up definitions on Wikipedia.

Because you obviously do not know what you are talking about.

[VanillaRhapsody]

81. believe me I HAVE extensively...and OH yes I do...

Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy (usually multi-party representative democracy) with social ownership of the means of production.

[VanillaRhapsody]

82. and...

Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy (usually multi-party representative democracy) with social ownership of the means of production. Although sometimes used synonymously with "socialism", the adjective "democratic" is sometimes added to distinguish itself from other models of socialism which democratic socialists perceive to be undemocratic.[1]

Democratic socialism is usually distinguished from both the Soviet model of a centralized economy and social democracy.[2] A distinction is also made between democratic socialism and social democracy in that the former is committed to systemic transformation of the economy while the latter is not.[3] However, "democratic socialism" is sometimes improperly used as a synonym for social democracy, where "social democracy" usually refers to support for political democracy, regulation of the capitalist economy, and a welfare state.[4]

Democratic socialism rejects the social democratic view of reform through state intervention within capitalism, seeing capitalism as inherently incompatible with the democratic values of freedom, equality, and solidarity. Democratic socialists believe that the economic contradictions inherent to capitalism can only be solved by transitioning from capitalism to socialism, by superseding private property with some form of social ownership, with any attempt to address the economic contradictions of capitalism through reforms only being likely to generate more problems elsewhere in the capitalist economy.[5][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism

Now you were saying about ME not knowing what "I" am talking about?

[KansDem]

85. Capitalism isn't working...

Time to try something else.

[Half-Century Man]

21. Perhaps I'm reading this wrong, but

it seems to me to be a reporters twist on Bernie saying an ongoing FBI investigation should be allowed to run it's course. Those in power are subject to the same laws as the rest of us. If there is deemed sufficient cause to investigate then do so.

The congressional sock hop in horseshit was manufactured to hurt Ms. Clinton, that one song dance party was what the entirety of the nation was tired of.

[questionseverything]

52. yes basically bernie said ,let the fbi's investigation run its course

he also said that in an interview right after the one and only debate

i feel like i woke up in lala land, we have the "presumed" candidate under fbi investigation but you would never know that from reading du or listening to the msm

[Babel_17]

78. It's click bait journalism to portray his statement as being a slam, and a reversal

This is the new media, reporters get paid by clicks and views. They want to be "trending".

Ah, deregulation, what sweet nectar you've enabled to be produced.

[Babel_17]

36. Thanks for the link! I lol at these headlines ...

Thanks for the link! I lol at these headlines when they use use click baiting tactics.

Senator Sanders was quite restrained, and very reasoned, in his handling of questions regarding Secretary Clinton.

[SoapBox]

38. 38 replies...

And I only show 8.

Now it's called "taking off the gloves" to state differences.

Keep doing what you are doing Bernie...they will continue to call you racist, sexist, too old, fringe and all the nasty non-issues. Name calling is all they got.

[FloridaBlues]

51. He smells defeat! Just like any other politican will go negitive

[Babel_17]

62. The smell of fear from the Clinton campaign, as they reap what they sow

Just to make one point clear, the Republicans being jackasses over everything Secretary Clinton had to say regarding Benghazi doesn't mean the FBI are jackasses for looking into how State Department e-mails were stored at an off-site location, managed by a private company.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hillary+clinton+email+mistake

[VanillaRhapsody]

84. WTF would they fear...she is what 30-50+ points ahead of him in ANY poll you can find...

They have already had 7 other investigations into the emails....all of them exonerated her!

[Babel_17]

87. Good point about the polling numbers, maybe they ...

.. have more than an inkling of how the FBI is going to come down on this?

Btw, we're only talking about e-mails in so far as to how they were handled.

It's like nobody cares that a mining company uses explosives. They get delivered securely, used by licensed professionals, and are moved around according to regulations.

But when those procedures aren't followed, people suddenly care, a lot.

P.S. You only ask why they should care, you didn't refute that for some reason they, and many of Secretary Clinton's supporters, do care very much about this issue getting coverage.

P.P.S. Clinton by 18 points over Sanders. Quinnipiac 10/29 - 11/2 http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us11042015_xsq33a.pdf

[VanillaRhapsody]

88. the FBI???

its been investigated 7 times.....no wrong doing found....

[Babel_17]

89. No, this investigation ...

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article37968711.html

The FBI is separately investigating whether Clinton’s arrangement put classified information at risk but has yet to characterize it as a criminal inquiry.

Many people are waiting on that. And from what I read the FBI is investigating comprehensively.

[polichick]

77. It's important to remind voters that we've been conned before...

HRC's recent policy changes are a con, plain and simple - amazing how many voters still fall for this shit.

Good on Bernie.

[BooScout]

90. Locking.

This is analysis and does not meet the SOP of LBN. Suggest you repost to GDP.