Reports Claim Charlie Sheen Is Now HIV Free
Source: Channel 9 News Australia
New reports claim US actor Charlie Sheen is now HIV free, after suffering with the virus for years. Sheen is set to make a personal announcement during an interview on the US Today show tomorrow. TMZ claims the actor is going to disclose he had HIV.
The media outlet originally reported the actor was HIV positive but now claims a source has told them Sheen is clean of the virus. The unnamed source reportedly said while Sheen was apparently taking medication for HIV for years, it is now undetectable in his system with blood tests revealing no signs of the virus.
The source claims the 50-year-old actor had known about his status for more than a year but chose to keep it confidential, sharing it only with several friends who broke his trust and spread the story.
Sheen was then contacted by several former partners who threatened legal action because they were not aware of his HIV status the source reportedly told TMZ. The NBC network has not announced any further details about the revealing interview which will air on the early tomorrow morning.
Read more: http://www.9news.com.au/entertainment/2015/11/17/08/13/charlie-sheen-to-make-personal-announcement-amid-hiv-speculation
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Deadshot
(384 posts)but suddenly, he doesn't?
Something is fishy.
JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Invest in tigers blood.
big_dog
(4,144 posts)
christx30
(6,241 posts)as HIV is a blood borne pathogen.
Maybe some tigers handshakes. Or a good tigers conversation.
drm604
(16,230 posts)I could be mistaken but I think it could just mean that the medicines are keeping it at undetectable levels. Other than one or two cases with special circumstances, has anyone ever actually been cured?
Quackers
(2,256 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)The man had leukemia and the treatment was to destroy his immune system with radiation and then replace it with transplanted cells from a compatible donor. That donor happened to be one of the rare individuals that has natural immunity to the virus.
This is not a general cure that can be used on just anybody. You'd have to be compatible with one of a handful of individuals known to be naturally immune. Even if compatibility weren't an issue, there aren't enough such people to provide transplants to everyone with HIV.
cstanleytech
(28,561 posts)it could lead to a possible solution or atleast a stop gap one until something better comes along.
There have only been a couple of people deemed as free of the virus...and those stories were from several years ago...don't know what has happened since.
One can have a "zero" viral load but that is generally a description as it relates to testing...say a test can read down to XX number...if a person gets to that number or zero, they are considered "undetectable" even though latent virus is hiding in the body.
HIV is a slimy little fucker of a virus...it loves to mutate and is a "sloppy" replicator, which is why it will eventually adapt to the medications (or that the medications can no longer affect the virus because the virus' receptors have changed). It also hides in areas (brain) that have traditionally been difficult for medications to penetrate and find the virus.
Also saying that I've not thought about these technical aspects in years, from discussions with friends, so may be a little rusty on my knowledge.
We'll have to see where this story goes.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)Response to big_dog (Original post)
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840high
(17,196 posts)big_dog
(4,144 posts)wall st, major league etc.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Personally whether he has HIV or not it doesn't matter. He's a raging asshole. It's too bad because I am rather fond of his father's work.
William769
(59,147 posts)Undetectable means just that, undetectable.
Once you are diagnosed with HIV you will always be HIV+ (until there is a cure).
And according to the U.S. Government, once you are diagnosed with AIDS (CD4 count is less tan 200), you will always have AIDS.
At one point in my life my CD4 count was at 3 (in 2005). They also told me I would not be leaving the hospital alive. Well here it is 2015 and I'm still here with a CD4 count that averages about 400 every time I am tested with a viral load that is undetectable. Normally a person with those stats would be considered HIV+ but because at one point I had full blown AIDS, I am still considered a AIDS patient.
I hope this makes sense to people, id not ask me and I will try to explain it to you.
Francois9
(54 posts)I'm wondering if our guy Mr. Sheen always remembered to take his meds.
William769
(59,147 posts)Not only do you have to take them you need to take them at the same time everyday (very little wiggle room).
They have come a long way though with HIV medicine cocktails are becoming a thing of the past. I only take one pill once a day. When my partner was still alive his regiment was 12 pills in the morning and 18 pills at night. That was a very hard regiment for him.
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:18 PM - Edit history (2)
That is, you've reduced your chances of passing it on, but it IS still possible?
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William769
(59,147 posts)But highly unlikely when you are undetectable.
Safe sex is still the best course of action. Condoms are readily available at any health clinic for free, so whether HIV+ or not, I would tell all people to practice safe sex.
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)I've been undetectable (which basically means that the levels of HIV in my blood are below the threshold of detection at 20 copies per ml of blood) since March 2000, and my cd4 hovers around 400 (give or take 100). Still considered having AIDS.
I still consider myself lucky to have to have survived since I was infected in 1985. I won't be "HIV free" until there is a cure. I don't really know (or want to know) how long viral rebound would take, but inevitably if I stopped antivirals my viral load would rise and my cd4 count would start falling again.
William769
(59,147 posts)LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Undetectable does NOT = HIV free. It just means the meds are working for him and if they continue to work he can go on to live a full healthy life. The HIV virus is still there it just isn't able to replicate the way it once did.
When I was diagnosed my CD 4 count was 27 (I believe normal is 500-1500, but I could be mistaken) and my viral load was 600,000+. Today my CD 4 count is about 600 and my viral load is undetectable, but I am still considered to be HIV+.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)people are going to see this and think that they can safely stop treatment.
Congratulations, I am so happy for you.
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)It's been a long and sometimes depressing fight, but you can never give up! Death might be coming for me, but I'll be damned if I'm going to slow down and wait for it to catch me. I'm probably healthier today than I have been in a long long time.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)We're all gonna die. Someday. No need to do it prematurely.
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 3, 2018, 11:11 PM - Edit history (3)
and it certainly doesn't equal cured.
It's just how some viruses work, and it depends on what kind of immune system you have. In most people, the HPV virus dies out; in some men over 40, it turns into cancer. Anyone who has had chicken pox is capable of getting shingles, but only one percent of Americans over 60 do (a vaccination at age 50 is highly recommended). And how soon we forget the Ebola virus.
What matters here is that you can pass on HIV even if you're not showing symptoms yourself -- and that is NOT front page news. The reason why it spread so quickly forty years ago is that nobody knew they were passing it on. Once it was figured out, the gay community was able to go about putting on the brakes.
In the absence of a cure, there is no such thing as HIV free. The only thing I'm confused about is whether Charlie is acting out of inexcusable ignorance or his trademark arrogance.
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Kurska
(5,739 posts)A proper regime of anti-hiv drugs can very well push the virus to non-detectable levels akin to complete elimination. It also makes it incredibly difficult to pass onto another person (if not bordering on downright impossible, which is why detection and treatment is so incredibly important).
That said, HIV is incredibly resistant to treatment and reservoirs are known to exist in the bone marrow and these aren't eliminated by current practice. If you stop treatment it comes back.
A HIV cure would be a way to eliminate these HIV reservoirs, which are still beyond medical reach. That said, several new approaches like "Shock and kill" (forcing the virus reservoirs to reactivate and then destroying them piecemeal with drugs) and stem cell based research are very promising. It is almost certain there will be a real cure in a decade or so, least that is my guess.
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)Last edited Tue Nov 17, 2015, 07:10 PM - Edit history (3)
http://www.today.com/health/charlie-sheen-reveals-hes-hiv-positive-today-show-exclusive-t56391And his most recent ex-wife Brooke Mueller says that she and their twin sons tested negative for HIV in 2011: the year in which he told her about the diagnosis -- and the year their divorce was completed.
UPDATE: A prominent Los Angeles lawyer tells TMZ (that) (a)t least six women have...contacted him...in the last 24 hours and plan to sue Charlie Sheen for intentional infliction of emotional distress, fraud, sexual battery...he has appointments with 4 more today.
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bullwinkle428
(20,663 posts)of Cosby accusers, given his history.
itcfish
(1,835 posts)He didn't drug and rape them. He is guilty of not telling them he was HIV positive and putting them in danger. Different issues.
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)Cosby drugged his victims and Charlie didn't inform his partners for the same reason: Unlimited sexual access without the responsibility.
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dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)What I want to know is WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT CHARLIE SHEEN? (no offense to you big_dog...)
NickB79
(20,395 posts)That doesn't mean you aren't getting piss in your mouth when you take a gulp....
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)The goal of modern retroviral therapy is to drop viral counts that low. Years of therapy have produced that effect before in individuals, and after stopping treatment the virus seems to resurge.
He should stay on therapy for the rest of his life.
rocktivity
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Oh wait -- can you be considered a scumbag if you're not in the habit of using one?
From the Today Show website: The Interview with Matt Lauer
Excerpts from an open letter Charlie wrote and Lauder read:
The personal disbelief, karmic confusion, shame and anger lead to a temporary yet abysmal descent into profound substance abuse and fathomless drinking. It was a suicide run. Problem was, I'd forgotten that I'm too tough for such a cowardly departure. Yet, despite this loathsome and horrific odyssey, I was vigilant with my anti-viral program. My medical team could only shake their heads as each and every blood test returned levels revealing a state of remission. Even though I might have been trying to kill myself, one thing was radically evident: the disease was not.
Talk about being your own worst enemy: You decide to go out in a blaze of glory, but having access to the best medical care money can buy, you also decide to try saving yourself. Or was the suicide run your backup plan?
It's admirable that you remember always remembering to inform your partners of your condition despite being so abysmally descended and dazed. And I suppose it's admirable that you found a way to mix safe sex with your substance-fueled pursuit of debauchery with strangers (some of whom you hired). Unfortunately for you, some of your unsavory, insipid, disreputable companions have come forth begging to differ with your contention. But if you always supplied them with the truth about your status and with condoms, why did you agree to pay them? And more to the point, why did you trust such bottom-dwelling lowlifes to care about your keeping your confidence -- because they're IN it for money rather than love?
If the scales of justice are operational, they will have you serving California's six-month maximum for every person you didn't inform or use condoms with -- consecutively. A defense strategy made up of celebrity justice, "family guy" guilt tripping, the hint of big community service payments, and prostitutes screaming rape because their checks bounced might get you off the hook. But in the meantime, please keep in mind that:
As of now, there is no such thing as being HIV free
There are only two HIV statuses: HIV positive and HIV negative
If your HIV levels are so low they're undetectable, you are HIV positive
Even if your HIV levels are so low they're undetectable, you must continue with your HIV medication and treatments
If you are HIV positive, you MUST inform ALL your sexual partners even if you're paying them. It's a legality as well as a civility.
An undetectable level of HIV is like a mild case of pregnancy.
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Skittles
(172,463 posts)projecting much, Charlie?
rocktivity
(45,008 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:53 AM - Edit history (9)
they have no rights that respectable people are obligated to respect.
Indeed, Charlie should have dared them to take him to court instead of submitting to their blackmail -- oops, I mean, instead of entering into confidentiality agreements with them. It's his word against theirs, after all: people who stoop to being paid for sex are ALWAYS seen as being LESS respectable and credible as people who stoop to PAYING for it!
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GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)Go away plague man.