Sanders Beats All Top Republican Candidates In Latest Poll
Source: Huffington Post
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), a contender for the Democratic presidential nomination, is gaining steam against top Republican rivals, according to a national Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday.
In a hypothetical matchup against the current GOP front-runner, business mogul Donald Trump, Sanders takes 49 percent of the vote to Trump's 41 percent. Against Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Sanders leads 44 percent to 43 percent. He also beats Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) by 10 percentage points and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson by 6 points.
Fifty-nine percent of voters also say Sanders is honest and trustworthy -- placing him well above former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, his chief rival for the Democratic nomination, and above all top Republican candidates tested in the poll.
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sanders-beats-republican-candidates-poll_565ee12ce4b079b2818c95fc
I presume new polling is still latest breaking news:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141266191
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141206691
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141198173
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141276532
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141215333
Not sure if the same rules apply if it is a breaking report about polling favorable to Sanders, but I guess we'll see.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And let's remember that next November.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)good enough for the challenges we face?
No. Sorry folks, we have to embrace change.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)The breaking news is therefore not just his chances of beating the GOP, but also: he would be the Democratic Party's best chance of winning 2016.
Duval
(4,280 posts)say Sanders is an Independent? He is now a Democrat. Watching Thom Hartmann this afternoon, I am reminded that Democrats have moved more to the right and have been for years. At least Bernie's policies are more in line with what we USED to be, i.e..FDR.
There is a post in Common Dreams on this, also. Thanks, Attorney in Texas.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/12/02/poll-sanders-more-electable-clinton-against-gop-frontrunners
Huffpo is right and you are wrong, on this at least. Sanders is what he has always been, an Independent who caucuses with the Democrats and is running on their primary but as an Indie.
That he is far closer to what democrats used to be and stand for is true enough, but fact remains what it is, he is an Indie.
Even the link which you provided, and thanks for it by the by, starts off :
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)
MeNMyVolt
(1,095 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)How do you personally define a Democrat?
How do you personally define an Independent?
Using those terms for people or candidates depends on our personal definitions of them. So I am interested in how you define them.
That goes for anyone who feels like answering this post.
What differentiates a Democrat from an Independent?
Thanks for your answers.
Doubledee
(137 posts)By looking at their registration obviously.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)There is no party registration in Vermont, but it was once the most staunchly Republican state in the Union, supporting the G.O.P. in 28 straight presidential elections and enjoying a 108-year gap between Democratic governors. "It was a gray Republican backwater; being a Democrat meant FDR had appointed you to the post office," says John McLaughry, a former state legislator and Reagan Administration advisor who runs the free-market Ethan Allen Institute. An influx of urban refugees and hippie escapists from New York and Massachusetts in the 1960s and 1970s changed everything. Soon Vermont had ski resorts, billboard bans, chi-chi restaurants, yoga retreats, and liberal Democrats. "That was the kickoff for our spurt into the future," McLaughry says, with more than a hint of disapproval.
Now Vermont is blue heaven, home of Ben and Jerry and Phish, the first state with civil unions for gays, the last state with a Wal-Mart and the only state that President Bush has somehow neglected to visit. (Naylor likes to say that Bush is the unofficial membership director for his secession movement.) One Vermont Senator, Brooklyn-born Bernie Sanders, is an avowed socialist; the other, Pat Leahy, is a liberal Democrat perhaps best known for being told by the Vice President on the Senate floor to go "f--k yourself." When Manhattan-born Howard Dean served as governor, he was considered pretty conservative for a Vermont politician.
http://content.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1718795,00.html
Doubledee
(137 posts)but seemingly not relevant to the status of Sanders as an Indie, which was, after all, the point.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)caucusing with Democrats for many, many years. I'm happy when a good politician decides to change to be a Democrat. Bernie is in my view a better Democrat than many who sit in Congress.
Doubledee
(137 posts)but can still like him without incorrectly noting he has become a democrat
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)each party's primary is "open" in that any registered voter can show up and vote in either (bot not both) primaries. As a result, I am not a registered Democrat despite the fact that I always vote in the Democratic primary and never vote in the Republican primary.
If you are a candidate (in Vermont or Texas), you have to declare your party affiliation or declare as an independent.
In his last senatorial re-election, Sanders declared as an independent candidate (as he has done for decades), and he was re-elected as an independent (in fact, he's the longest serving independent in US history), and he is currently serving out that senatorial term in which he was elected as an independent.
There is not process in Vermont to register with a party so many news organizations look to his declaration in his last election (which was "independent"
.
In his current campaign, Sanders declared as a Democrat.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)But at least you have Mr. Clucky!
thesquanderer
(13,053 posts)...the primary candidate who is up by 30 is actually looking like the candidate who would be the weaker choice againts the Republicans in November! Luckily, either of them is very likely to beat any Republican.
Walk away
(9,494 posts)Hillary also beats the republicans well within the same margin of error as Sanders. It's splitting hairs. Plus, it's obvious that Sander's support in the general is coming from republicans. I think Democrats are going to choose a Democrat. In fact, they already are doing so.
thesquanderer
(13,053 posts)Last edited Wed Dec 2, 2015, 04:50 PM - Edit history (1)
and also Independents. That's the point. Either HRC or BS will get the overwhelming bulk of the Democratic vote against any Republican. If polls like this hold up, it seems BS has the potential to get more (crossover) Republican and Independent voters, which is why he might be able to "win bigger."
But you're right that, at this point, with margin of error, you'd have to consider them tied. The reason I think that "tie" favors Sanders is that Hillary is already very well known among Republicans and Independents, and so I don't think she has as much remaining "upside potential" as Bernie does, since many are still first learning about him. That is, his numbers among Republicans and Indies has more potential to increase, Hillary's are probably pretty fixed by comparison.
On one hand, it doesn't matter... whether you win by 1 electoral vote or 100, you're just as much The President. But to the extent that one candidate might have more out-of-party appeal, that can help the downticket races, as we discussed in another thread.
Trump leads all GOP contenders by an increasing margin. Is that a defense of his positions?....just as the numbers cannot hide Senator Clinton's flaws and foibles.
To say that Sanders support comes from republicans is to minimize your repute but not state any fact.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Yup...and the more he keeps speaking, the more people understand his straight forward, main stream message.
It's honest and he's authentic...there is no massive flip-flopping or shift shaping.
The Entrenched Establishment still has its head in the sand, thinking they are a shoe in...but the storm for true change is rolling along...we will have millions and millions and millions of voters ready to cast their votes for Bernie.
Go Bernie!
Go Berners!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i think all dems would have an uphill battle against trump now.
the xenophobia gonna run rampant