Hillary Clinton's Right-Hand Woman Takes On Trump: 'I'm A Proud Muslim'

[riversedge]

Source: people.com







By Naja Rayne @najarayne

12/08/2015 AT 01:30 AM EST

Donald Trump revealed his radical plan on Monday to ban all Muslims from entering the U.S., and Hillary Clinton's vice chair, Huma Abedin is taking him head on.

"I'm a proud Muslim – but you don't have to share my faith to share my disgust," Abedin wrote in an email to supporters. "Trump wants to literally write racism into our law books."

Trump's recent proposition to impose "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on," is based on research he claims shows that "there is great hatred towards Americans by large segments of the Muslim population."


While the republican presidential candidate's release pointed to an online poll from the controversial think tank Center for Security Policy, which claimed 25 percent of Muslims living in America believe violence against Americans "is justified as a part of the global jihad," Abedin believes that his statement is nothing more than Trump acting out of fear................



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[BlueMTexpat]

1. Good for Huma!

Those of us who have lived for long times in Muslim countries, who have known Muslims well, who have worked with Muslim colleagues for years, and who have Muslim family members know just how wrong and terrible it is for Trump to continue with his fear-mongering rabble-rousing hate speech.

I am proud to count myself among all these groups even though I myself am currently an agnostic "cradle Catholic."

If any of my friends, colleagues, or family members are ever victimized because of this hate speech, I personally will use every legal means within my power to ensure that the perpetrators - and those who inspire them with their hate speech - answer for those acts.

It is as scurrilous and wrong to damn all Muslims for the acts of thugs who happen to be Muslim as it is to damn all Americans for the acts and rhetoric of Donald Trump. There is perhaps even more reason to damn Americans for Trump.

After all, Trump is literally the role model for the "Ugly American." It makes me thoroughly ashamed that he is even considered credible enough to be given a forum, let alone to be considered as a candidate for the US Presidency.

IMO, Bill Maher and his ilk also do little to advance meaningful dialogue or understanding about Islam in the US. But this OP is about Trump. Maher at least has the sense not to run for the highest political office in the land.

[bulloney]

2. Trump's outrageous positions aren't as concerning to me as much as seeing all of the knuckledraggers

who rally to support them. And they'll argue that it's a sign of Trump displaying leadership.

Was this how Nazi Germany started?

Wake up America! The San Bernardino shootings were horrible. But virtually every other mass shooting in the U.S. in the past several months was done by WHITE MALE CHRISTIANS!!! When are we going to talk about banning that demographic from this country?

We're seeing the results of 20+ years of dumbing down America via the RW talk shows, Faux Snooze and the half-assed reporting done by the remaining major media.

[baldguy]

3. "Was this how Nazi Germany started?"

Yes, this is exactly how Nazi Germany started.

The brownshirts were viewed as idiots, Hitler was viewed as a clown. And all the while the Nazis gained power & influence, the liberals in Germany were factionalized & dedicated to attacking each other rather than countering the fascist threat.

[Ferretherder]

4. Is it not more than a little bit 'chilling' to think that...

...we may on the brink of repeating the history we have, apparently, NOT learned from.

I'll tell you, right now, it's scaring the HELL out of me!

Are all of us 'progressives' out here going to someday be derisively referred to as, 'the good Americans'?

[mainer]

16. Yes, it's also how it started in Italy as well

The Italian media, under instruction from Mussolini's ministers, began writing editorials about how the Jews weren't patriotic Italians, and how they could never be "true" countrymen.

It began in the newspaper editorials, until public opinion was swayed.

[Tortmaster]

75. I was little concerned about Trump ...

... and even less concerned about Ted Cruz until I noticed that their polling numbers combine to over 50% of the Republican vote.

Their fascist crazy talk--especially about Islam but also about border walls and war--has 50% of the GOP enthralled. Now, I am worried.

Until recently, Trump and Carson, together, polled over 50%. I figured that Ben Carson was pulling votes from semi-"serious" Republicans who might not be 100% total fascists. At least they wanted to appear tolerant and smart (relative to people who were supporting Trump or Cruz) by voting for a neurosurgeon. Well, that theory was blown to hell.

Thankfully, there is a Clinton to knock the Republican nominee out, and, if I'm right, the likely Democratic ticket of Clinton/Castro would make any GOP configuration of nominees look almost as impressive as the Goldwater campaign.

[Cha]

5. Who knew turnip would enlarge on his assholery when he was pushing birthism and we wanted

Macy's to drop him then?

[Quantess]

6. She lost me at the word "racism".

My current pet peeve is Muslim = race

[TexasProgresive]

7. Maybe she should've used Islamaphobia.

Would that be more acceptable to you.

[Quantess]

9. Yes, because islamophobia is the correct word. (no text)

[trumad]

8. SO everything else she said is null and void because of one word?

Weird.

[Quantess]

11. No, not at all. What does the term "pet peeve" imply to you?

For me, "pet peeve" implies a personal, trivial, irritation. Maybe it's trivial to you.

Islamobhobia does not equal racism.

[muriel_volestrangler]

20. "she lost me" implies you are ignoring her message

completely, and you gave your reason for that being your pet peeve.

[Quantess]

21. Okay. But she had me interested up until that point,

so the message wasn't completely lost on me.

[DURHAM D]

22. Perhaps this will help.

Following is the entire email from Huma.

Dear ________

Donald Trump is leading in every national poll to be the Republican nominee for president.

And earlier today, he released his latest policy proposal: to ban all Muslims from entering our country.

I'm a proud Muslim -- but you don't have to share my faith to share my disgust.

Trump wants to literally write racism into our law books. His Islamophobia doesn't reflect our nation's values -- it goes far enough to damage our country's reputation and could even threaten our national security.

Unfortunately, Trump is leaning into the kind of fear of progress that very well could help him win the nomination. We have to be ready to stop him.
Thank you,

Huma

Huma Abedin
Vice Chair
Hillary for America

[Quantess]

24. Thanks, but how is that supposed to change my opinion on her misuse of the word?

It's a great letter, otherwise.

[mainer]

39. She actually uses the word "Islamaphobia." Why doesn't that make you happy?

She also says that Donald Trump wants to write racism into the constitution. How is that inaccurate? Remember his remarks about Mexicans? Isn't that racism?

[onehandle]

35. Those who are Islamobhobia-ists are fairly guaranteed to be racists.

GOPers largely are racists period.

Trump GOPers are all racists.

I'm sure when they see Huma, they see a 'brown person,' long before they think they are a Muslim.

[hopemountain]

81. ^^^ yes!^^ nt

[leftofcool]

10. What would "you " prefer?

Seems to me she is entitled to use any word she chooses against Trump.

[Quantess]

13. Islamophobia.

What race is muslim? It seems to me that muslims come in all races.

[carla]

17. NO. You are wrong.

People of the Muslim faith come in one race; the HUMAN RACE. Anything else is racist.

[Quantess]

19. Touche'.

You got me, there.

[BeyondGeography]

12. Pet peeves can be peevish

[Jester Messiah]

14. I can't believe we're still hung up on which invisible friend people brag about chatting with.

Fuck's sake, we're never going to get out of the dark ages.

[bvf]

15. Agreed. You'd think she'd know the difference. n/t

[DURHAM D]

23. See post 22 above. nt

[bvf]

27. You mean where she conflates

racism and Islamophobia?

Yeah. Saw that. As I said, you'd think she'd know better.

[LanternWaste]

30. When speaking to and of the lowest common denominators

When speaking to and of the lowest common denominators, it's often effective to speak in such a way as to bde understood by the lowest common denominators. Or, sure... we can also pretend she doesn't know better.

[bvf]

31. What you're saying is that

it's not only acceptable, but preferable to reinforce cultural misconceptions when addressing what you refer to as "the lowest common denominator."

Please correct me if I misunderstand you here. I won't even touch what you mean by your categorization of her audience, or whether she would agree with you wrt that description, (other than to observe that it seems an insulting characterization).

[JI7]

44. there is a connection . nonmuslim brown people get attacked for being muslim

Sikhs were shot and killed after 9-11.

[bvf]

59. I'm aware of that.

That only means there's a connection in (some) people's heads.

These attacks were heinous in any case, but her association of Islam and race simply reinforces the ignorance.

[JI7]

60. no it doesn't, it calls out what those people are. they aren't calling for guns to be taken away

from white guys after many reports of them doing mass shootings . they aren't even calling for more checks or anything else.

race certainly is a part of it and they are being called out for it.

[bvf]

61. Equating race and religion

is the same as "calling them out"?

You can think that all you want. I stand by my statement.

[JI7]

63. that's what racists do , call them out , do you think the people who shot and killed sikhs

had any knowledge of islam itself other than seeing it as something brown people worship ?

[bvf]

65. Of course not!

But reinforcing this particular ignorance helps how, exactly?

[JI7]

66. reinforcing it ? it's what it is. these people aren't arguing over specifics of islamic text

these people hate blacks and hispanics also . hispanics were the first ones trump went after.

and you want to try to pretend these people aren't racist.

[bvf]

68. I'm pretending no such thing, and it's insulting for you

to suggest as much.

I'll say it once more: To equate Islam with race is incorrect, wrong, ignorant, and every synonym you can dig up here. Whether it's some yahoo aiming a gun at a Sikh, or sending out an email to supporters calling Islamophobia "racism," it's just plain wrong.

I'm sure you'll respond with another misinterpretation, perhaps suggesting that I'm putting a badly worded email on par with murder, or some such rot. Don't.

[JI7]

69. it's wrong to equate the 2 as you are doing right now

yeah, the bigot is just like the one who calls out the bigotry.

[bvf]

70. *sigh*

[rockfordfile]

83. No the republican racists did and have been doing that

[JI7]

25. lol. you think it has nothing to do with brown people

?

Multiple mass shootings by white guys doesn't get the same outrage and urgency to do something to stop it.

[Quantess]

26. My race is agnostic. (no text)

[Yupster]

32. My race is Methodist

This sounds like a hashtag campaign.

[JI7]

43. i have relatives attacked for being muslim even though they aren't

I'm sure it has nothing to do with them bring Brown.

[Scootaloo]

55. I invite other DU'ers to do a little search on your post history regarding Muslims

I don't think anyone will be surprised

[Bradical79]

58. Well, there is a lot of overlap

Cultural traits, religion, and skin color are often all part of anti-Islamic bigotry. It's why so many still think Barak Obama is a secret Muslim when he is very clearly Christian.

[heaven05]

28. trump's ham handedd proposition

is a racists attempt to incite his racist base, nothing more, nothing less. He "wants to wait until our representatives figure out what's going on"? Really. Well trumpdump, G.W.bush, Cheney et al have created at least two and probably more generations of muslims who hate america. You think blown up babies in Iraq by u.s. bombers and soldiers would endear us to the muslim population? Nothing to figure out.

Not all muslims hate america, I know that.

[JustAnotherGen]

77. +10000

[treestar]

29. One of the main reasons Trump should never hold office

Is his apparent ignorance, or his appealing to it. A leader should not be in opposition to the values of the US - that is the 14th Amendment. We don't do things like that here and never have. If he does not know that, he's an idiot. He would have to disappoint his followers as the law would simply not allow such a ground for not admitting people otherwise qualified.

[Yupster]

33. Boy will Trump have fun with this

It will be interesting. Can Huma and Trump fight while Hillary looks like the adult in the room watching them?

Could be fun.

[patsimp]

34. funny - i don't remember her publically condemning the Islamist killings all over the world

I guess she found her voice when something close to what SHE cares about was challenged.

[mainer]

38. She never publicly condemned puppy killing either

So I guess she must be all for it.

[patsimp]

41. puppies have nothing to do with this

if she is proud to be a muslim, it might be good for her to get out there and tell people what she's proud about and why they should not be radicalized. Maybe it may prevent some of the radicalization that seems to happen when muslims become more devout.

[mainer]

42. Because YOU PERSONALLY have never heard her say it

and the media has never broadcast her statements about terrorism, you imply that she must be FOR terrorism?

This drives me crazy whenever I hear "but they never made a public statement," implying that if the public hasn't heard it shouted out loud in the news media, then we can imply anything about someone's opinion.

How often do we hear press releases quoting Huma Abedin about anything? I can't remember a single one in the last year. Yet because YOU haven't heard media coverage of her saying she's against terrorism, you imply she's for it?

Like she must be presumably for killing puppies because she hasn't spoken out against it?

[JI7]

45. she is married to a very pro israel jewish guy and works for

A candidate who is viewed as hawkish on order to go after terrorists.

[patsimp]

46. thanks.

[Major Hogwash]

54. Isn't she married to Weiner?

The guy who resigned from Congress because he posted pictures of him in his underwear on the internet?

[Herman4747]

36. Surrendering one's brain to Muhammad...

...is nothing to be proud of.

[patsimp]

47. agreed

[Beacool]

37. I'm glad that Huma spoke up.

Huma is one of Hillary's greatest assets. She's bright, very knowledgeable and a nice person. If it was up to Trump, she wouldn't be allowed to live in the U.S., even though she was born in MI.

Trump appeals to people's fears and bigotry. He feeds the baser instincts of his supporters. His politics aside, he's the stereotype of the ugly American and I'm embarrassed that he's the presidential front runner of a major political party. What must the world think of us?

[patsimp]

48. What has she done that makes her a nice person?

[Beacool]

49. Do you personally know her?

I do.

[patsimp]

50. so, what has she done that makes her a nice person?

[Beacool]

51. I don't talk about people I know.

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Particularly if they are public figures.

[patsimp]

52. you're the one who raised the association and then refuses to elaborate

all I can comment on is what I've seen publicly.

[patsimp]

57. i've read more about her and she is impressive

[Beacool]

71. Yes, she is.

[Judi Lynn]

40. Good for Huma Abedin. Excellent person. n/t

[tclambert]

53. Save us from dangerous immigrants, like Friedrich Drumpf, who made a fortune running brothels.

Friedrich Drumpf was a German immigrant, before World War I and World War II, who later often lied about his German heritage, claiming to be Swedish so as not to risk the anti-German sentiment of the era. He made his fortune "operating boom-town hotels, restaurants and brothels in the Northwestern United States and Western Canada." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Trump

He went so far to hide German heritage that he changed his name to Frederick Trump. Hey, isn't that Donald Trump's grandfather?

[JustAnotherGen]

78. You mean to tell me . . .

Trump's grand daddy ran prostitutes?




I didn't want to us the H word because that would have offended.

[patsimp]

56. I'd be more impressed if she took on the jihadists

trump is a windbag. if the islamists stop killing people, trump's words would have no meaning.

if huma wants to show real strength, start calling out the radical islamists. Make a stand there.

[840high]

62. ,+1

[JI7]

64. both her husband and the candidate she works for are hawkish in going after terrorists

do you really think she has some sympathy with terrorists and doesn't want to go after them ?

[840high]

72. Her mother is an interesting person. I googled.

[patsimp]

73. how so?

[JI7]

74. that's nice, but she chose where to work and who to marry

[rockfordfile]

82. Why are you here?

You don't seem like a democrat.

[WIProgressive88]

67. Good for Huma. Fuck Trump.

[Gothmog]

79. I received this e-mail

I am really appalled at Trump's actions

[lunatica]

80. Watch him respond by talking about her husband's penis

[pennylane100]

84. That is what I was also thinking about.

She seems like a very nice person and I know she is very close to Hillary and a valued member of her staff.. However, I cannot understand why a smart. political savvy person with want to stay with a spouse texts pictures of his penis to strangers. It is just too weird for me to understand.