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(16,926 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:43 PM Dec 2015

Jeb Bush: Trump Is 'the Other Version' of Barack Obama

Source: NBC News

MANCHESTER, N.H. -- Jeb Bush on Wednesday called Donald Trump "Barack Obama - the other version of it," as he campaigned in New Hampshire with a surrogate who's said he'd vote for Hillary Clinton over Trump.

"It just sends a signal to the world that we're not serious," Bush told reporters after a young professionals event at St. Anselm College. He was making the point Obama has divided the country in a way that's similar to Trump.

Bush praised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who Israeli media reported has condemned Trump's remarks.

"It's not going to help the security of Israel, it's not going to help the security of the United States. It pushes away allies that are necessary," Bush said.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/jeb-bush-trump-other-version-barack-obama-n477131

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Jeb Bush: Trump Is 'the Other Version' of Barack Obama (Original Post) IDemo Dec 2015 OP
Jeb ole boy DonCoquixote Dec 2015 #1
Once again proving he's even dumber than his brother n/t hibbing Dec 2015 #2
oh my fucking god. he's a hyena in a suit. he's dumber than his several dumb brothers. roguevalley Dec 2015 #46
He is hysterical in a suit rpannier Dec 2015 #48
This is the smart one? Proserpina Dec 2015 #3
no damn wonder mama wanted him hidden away. rurallib Dec 2015 #20
WTF does that mean? The white version? GusBob Dec 2015 #4
Exactly what came to my mind... elias49 Dec 2015 #19
Just one of many trial balloons Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #5
More like a trail of buffoons. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2015 #16
All in the Rethug master game plan. Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #36
The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column. Xipe Totec Dec 2015 #37
This garbage started with Nixon and Wellstone ruled Dec 2015 #45
and we all thought george was the dumb one dembotoz Dec 2015 #6
I suspect that Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2015 #13
I may not be too happy with obama these days Robbins Dec 2015 #7
Jeb should go ellie Dec 2015 #8
Jeb, even pond scum shit has more brains than you. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #9
Desperate times... (as the saying goes.) NurseJackie Dec 2015 #10
I agree n/t ejbr Dec 2015 #22
It just sends a signal to the world that we're not serious Hayduke Bomgarte Dec 2015 #11
I think that is what makes me the most angry. onecaliberal Dec 2015 #12
+1 FailureToCommunicate Dec 2015 #26
Jebbie's sportin' a polysci woodie.... in true Bush* family landshark fashion... Raster Dec 2015 #14
Another classic Jeb! fail. fleur-de-lisa Dec 2015 #15
Just when I thought he was smarter than shrub.... blackspade Dec 2015 #17
trump fits right in with the republican party. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #18
Jeb!? is an idiot Hekate Dec 2015 #21
my reaction, took. MBS Dec 2015 #30
The further along this camapign season goes Jeb Bartlet Dec 2015 #23
George the "Shrub" was charismatic? FailureToCommunicate Dec 2015 #31
Jeb sure has a huge head rickford66 Dec 2015 #38
he does not even make sense. hopemountain Dec 2015 #24
It is somewhat sobering to realize that Shrub was the smart one all along. malthaussen Dec 2015 #25
Unlike Lake Wobegon, IDemo Dec 2015 #28
Jeb? would certainly know about how to cheat at elections in Florida... Hekate Dec 2015 #43
And Jeb Is The Other Hillary billhicks76 Dec 2015 #27
Please tell us how much difference, in dimes, there is between Jeb? and Hillary. I look forward... Hekate Dec 2015 #42
On Foreign Policy, Drug War and Surveillance? billhicks76 Dec 2015 #57
What a nutjeb. Gregorian Dec 2015 #29
Like a sideshow geek. Jack-o-Lantern Dec 2015 #32
Jeb is the other version of bush. truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #33
Jeb Bush is a moron. Why is he even still in the race? SomethingNew Dec 2015 #34
I hope they don't think they can STEAL THIS ELECTION ALSO WITH JEBBY.... onecent Dec 2015 #39
Jeb is increasingly incoherent. seafan Dec 2015 #35
Zip up your pants, Jebbie... tavernier Dec 2015 #40
Gingrich said the same thing elmac Dec 2015 #41
Fake news divided the country almost a decade ago. Has been expanding. oldandhappy Dec 2015 #44
Jeb! sofa king Dec 2015 #47
And Jeb is the other version of stupid. Helen Borg Dec 2015 #49
My god is Jeb! still around? NastyRiffraff Dec 2015 #50
Dude is so lost BeyondGeography Dec 2015 #51
That's right.. Blame trump on President Obama.. he gets blamed for everything else.. why not.. Cha Dec 2015 #52
WTF does that even mean? liberal N proud Dec 2015 #53
Do you folks NOT pay attention? getagrip_already Dec 2015 #54
Jebby's articulation is worse than idiot brother 'W', over and over again. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #55
this incoherent babble from jeb! is almost sad to watch restorefreedom Dec 2015 #56


(13,616 posts)
1. Jeb ole boy
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:45 PM
Dec 2015

You are not qualified to speak on who is what, especially as you have shown that you are not not not your brother, but have shown LESS intelligence than he. There is a reason you are still fifth in the polls, behind your little understudy Marco.


(24,394 posts)
48. He is hysterical in a suit
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:00 AM
Dec 2015

He always looks like he borrowed one from someone else.
It fits terrible and looks too big.


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Just one of many trial balloons
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:51 PM
Dec 2015

coming out of Bush's campaign. This is and was their Game Plan from the get go.


Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
36. All in the Rethug master game plan.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:13 PM
Dec 2015

One only had to watch CBS or ABC Evening News,no end to the Publicly given to Trump or Carson. Becomes obvious to one who looks at the trends and time line of our so called Fourth Estate. Appears the Game Plan is to super divide our Country with Trump and Carson,and at the same time,work Clinton Camp against the Sanders Camp with the Rethugs getting the Positive Spin and the Dems getting a real negative spin. When Rethugs are worried about losing the Senate and the House as they are crying about today,watch out,this is a well planned charade. White Horse Prophecy coming.


(16,894 posts)
6. and we all thought george was the dumb one
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:55 PM
Dec 2015

old barb bushes eggs must have been hit with radiation or sumtin


(5,066 posts)
7. I may not be too happy with obama these days
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:56 PM
Dec 2015

but comparing him to trump? Bush is just as dumb as his idiot brother.

Don't let republicans fool you.many of them agree with trump.he only says publicly what they believe.

Obama didn't divide the country.the smears and boogyman the right wing turned obama into divided the country.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
11. It just sends a signal to the world that we're not serious
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

Yeah Jebbie, that's what tells the world the goops aren't serious.

What a stupid mook.


(33,353 posts)
12. I think that is what makes me the most angry.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:00 PM
Dec 2015

They don't give two shit's how they make us look around the world. They should be immediately disqualified.


(20,998 posts)
14. Jebbie's sportin' a polysci woodie.... in true Bush* family landshark fashion...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:04 PM
Dec 2015

...he's smelling tRump blood in the election waters. And in true tRump fashion, the Donald's mouth turns out to be his biggest potential electoral asset AND his confirmed worst enemy.

I think Bern and Hil just need to step back and watch the brou-ha-ha-ha. Emphasis on the "ha ha ha."


(14,632 posts)
15. Another classic Jeb! fail.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:08 PM
Dec 2015

What a boob. Can't believe he is still campaigning. Quit while you're behind, fool.

Jeb Bartlet

(141 posts)
23. The further along this camapign season goes
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:32 PM
Dec 2015

The more obvious it becomes that Jeb is neither as smart as his father nor as charismatic as his brother, he's just a stupid whiny spoiled little shit. Enjoy your life as a fucking footnote Jebby.


(14,084 posts)
31. George the "Shrub" was charismatic?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:08 PM
Dec 2015

Not feelin' it.

But I agree about JEB!?

(And I like your West Wing handle)


(17,304 posts)
25. It is somewhat sobering to realize that Shrub was the smart one all along.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:40 PM
Dec 2015

This guy amazes me with his ineptitude. How did he get elected governor of Florida? I know he must have cheated, but that must have been some serious cheating, there.

-- Mal


(91,596 posts)
43. Jeb? would certainly know about how to cheat at elections in Florida...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:04 PM
Dec 2015

...given how he helped Shrub.



(5,082 posts)
27. And Jeb Is The Other Hillary
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 08:46 PM
Dec 2015

They only differ on the smaller things. Wars at home and wars abroad they play their roles in harmony. And it's getting really old having Hillary supporters flag opinions they don't like. Me thinks they doth protest too much.


(91,596 posts)
42. Please tell us how much difference, in dimes, there is between Jeb? and Hillary. I look forward...
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:02 PM
Dec 2015

...to your answer with bated breath.



(5,082 posts)
57. On Foreign Policy, Drug War and Surveillance?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:01 PM
Dec 2015

Almost none. And we are referring to actions not speeches.


(279 posts)
34. Jeb Bush is a moron. Why is he even still in the race?
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:45 PM
Dec 2015

He is running against a bunch of clowns and still can't even get above 5%. That really says something about both him and the primary voters.


(9,387 posts)
35. Jeb is increasingly incoherent.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:50 PM
Dec 2015
More Jebberish from the campaign trail today, in addition to his babbling something about Donald Trump as "Barack Obama - the other version of it,":

..... Bush's comments to reporters came at the conclusion of an unusual event with students and other young professionals - four young adults peppered him with unusual questions like who he would invite to a party at the White House. The result was sometimes funny and often awkward. Bush described his own introverted personality and tendency to be serious; but also occasionally dropped in a droll joke. At one point, he held forth at some length about the quality of the bed he'd bought for his Miami home, saying how much he missed it, drawing titters from the crowd.

Then he was asked about studying abroad.

"I had a Latin American affair before I had a degree in it," Bush said, referring to meeting his wife, Columba, in Mexico before finishing his undergraduate degree in Latin American studies.

Asked which celebrity he'd want to meet, Bush scoffed. "I really don't believe in celebrity. I just don't. I find it superficial," he said. "I got into a big fight with Matt Damon about school choice."

But he was introspective when one student asked what he would emulate about his father, saying that George H.W. Bush was "near perfect" and that he only hoped to be half the man his dad is.

"He treats the person that is serving in a hotel the same way he would treat a head of state and just to be grounded that way, everything else kind of flows from that," he said.

Oh, Y E S, Poppy is SOOO decent and respectful. [font color=red]NOT.[/font]

We have functioning memories here.

CNN, 2009:

COOPER: .....

Coming up, President Clinton and Bush 41 like you've never seen them before. See what Clinton and Bush 41 said that everyone cracked up about. It's our "Shot," next.


COOPER: All right, Tom. I know you're going to enjoy tonight's "Shot," so let's get to it.

From New Orleans yesterday, I give you the comic stylings of two former presidents making jokes, revealing close encounters with citizens and having some fun. Watch.


BUSH: One time, we thought we'd outsmarted the crowd. We sent a decoy limousine off in one direction while I snuck out -- in the back entrance. And as we rounded the corner -- I'll never forget it -- I saw one of the ugliest and angriest women I have ever seen in my entire life. Boy, she was really bad.

And she charged my car with a sign. I don't see why the Secret Service let her up that close, right next to the window. "Stay out of my womb."

"No problem, lady."

And -- these things...

CLINTON: You know, he tells jokes that I just couldn't get away with telling. Can you imagine what they would do to me if I told that joke he told up here? Some people can do things other people can't.

Reminds me, you know, of the story of the two dogs who watched kids break-dancing. And one dog said to the other, "You know, if we did that, they'd worm us."

I mean, some guys got it, some guys don't.



We already know which half of Poppy, 'The Man', that Jeb Bush inherited.

God Lord, deliver us from this family.



(4,642 posts)
41. Gingrich said the same thing
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 10:54 PM
Dec 2015

Just another fascist talking point to blame Obama for anything, everything that the republican fascists screw up.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
47. Jeb!
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:17 AM
Dec 2015

I will say this and I mean it:

I have to hand it to Jeb!, for I could never have figured out how to piss away fifty million dollars of rich assholes' money... in a primary race... in an off-election year....

It's true that the reality show narcissist and the belief-driven brain surgeon have been saying the stupider things, but it is Jeb! who is doing the stupidest things. Jeb! Bush is trailing and losing ground in the worst Presidential field I've seen in over three decades of observation. That is a self-evident problem that speaks volumes about Jeb!'s competence.

But that's only the beginning because Jeb! is dealing from the bottom of his own stacked deck and STILL losing, and still losing ground. This was supposed to be a walkover for Jeb!, and these are just some of the advantages he brought with him, and promptly squandered:

Jeb! has the most money (Trump isn't dumb enough to spend his own) and has been spending it like his brother running up a no-bid Halliburton contract;

Jeb! had his pick of the best staff from three close-enough-to-steal-it Presidential campaigns, with a pre-existing ground game in every single state;

Jeb! has a brother who gets the most coveted political information in the world: a copy of the Presidential Daily Briefing. The legality and ethics of sharing that information of course plays no role in the matter, since we're talking about members of a crime family. But for whatever reason they're not making use of it--probably because President Obama took out the bullet points and now the Bush boys can't actually understand what the Briefing says. Jeb! should be the best-informed candidate, and maybe he is, but his target demographic is too dumb to know it;

Jeb! is perfectly positioned to run against all of those candidates. He's a former governor, and the GOP loves governors; he's running against FIVE Senators, four of whom are going to lose the election for themselves by their votes coming up in the next two weeks. Three of the other governors he had to run against have already dropped out. He doesn't even need to kiss Carly Fiorina's ass because he's got his own running mate, Pam Bondi, already picked out.

Jeb! has been planning this run for SIX YEARS, if not twice that, and this is his plan. This! The "lose to the racist circus conductor" plan.

My guess is that Jeb!'s problem is that he probably really is marginally smarter than his father and his brother--but he's still a fucking moron because a person can be smarter than W and still have a double-digit IQ. He's smart enough to know that he's smarter than they, but not smart enough to run his campaign by himself or even with minimal input from himself, because of that Bush reverse-Midas touch that we all know so well.

But don't count Jeb! out just yet. There are over 40 million emails from the Bush administration that were supposed to be turned over to the National Archives, a huge amount of them revolving around anthrax and 9/11 and two trillion dollars in missing American money, for which everyone from the former President on down is felony-liable (not for the crimes but for the missing emails, which is a violation of the NARA Act). It's an obvious criminal cover-up and if things don't start breaking Jeb!'s way, everyone involved except Dick Cheney will could down the tubes for it (Cheney is a dual citizen of an Arab nation now, so he could take all those bribes from Halliburton, and he never has to return to the US, especially not to testify or face trial.)

So with infinite money, multinational power, and the spur of criminal indictment digging into his fat arse, the economy just might crash, gas just might go back over four bucks a gallon, and other candidates' planes just might fall out of the sky. That's about the sort of thing Jeb is going to need to get close.

But he only needs to get close, doesn't he?


(299,123 posts)
52. That's right.. Blame trump on President Obama.. he gets blamed for everything else.. why not..
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 09:02 AM
Dec 2015

In their little tiny minds it would not be much of a leap to equate their trump problem with Obama.

And, I love And appreciate President Obama


(15,320 posts)
54. Do you folks NOT pay attention?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 10:55 AM
Dec 2015

Obama is HATED by the right, especially among trump supporters. It is only natural in the primary to try to link your opponent, know matter how strangely, to Obama. It is a third rail over there.

The only question is can it work? Probably not against tRump, who disses O at every turn.

It doesn't have to make sense to us. It just has to work for them.

Maybe if O had shown a backbone for the first 6 years it would be different, but he didn't. Now they walk all over him.

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