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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 11:22 PM Dec 2015

Google, NASA: Our quantum computer is 100 million times faster than normal PC

Source: Ars Technica

But only for very specific optimization problems.

Two years ago Google and NASA went halfsies on a D-Wave quantum computer, mostly to find out whether there are actually any performance gains to be had when using quantum annealing instead of a conventional computer. Recently, Google and NASA received the latest D-Wave 2X quantum computer, which the company says has "over 1000 qubits."

At an event yesterday at the NASA Ames Research Center, where the D-Wave computer is kept, Google and NASA announced their latest findings—and for highly specialised workloads, quantum annealing does appear to offer a truly sensational performance boost. For an optimisation problem involving 945 binary variables, the D-Wave X2 is up to 100 million times faster (10^8) than the same problem running on a single-core classical (conventional) computer.

Google and NASA also compared the D-Wave X2's quantum annealing against Quantum Monte Carlo, an algorithm that emulates quantum tunnelling on a conventional computer. Again, a speed-up of up to 10^8 was seen in some cases.

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Read more: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/google-nasa-our-quantum-computer-is-100-million-times-faster-than-normal-pc/

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Google, NASA: Our quantum computer is 100 million times faster than normal PC (Original Post) bananas Dec 2015 OP
Time for a fight; Watson vs D-Wave. ErikJ Dec 2015 #1
If you ask it the right question. sofa king Dec 2015 #2
After my Windows 10 upgrade experience I believe it! Submariner Dec 2015 #3
Hmm I am on a 4 year old laptop running windows 10 and only 4gb memory and I havent noticed any cstanleytech Dec 2015 #13
I have 2 gb memory Submariner Dec 2015 #17
2 gb???? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #26
I wonder how well KSP would run on it. n/t Gore1FL Dec 2015 #4
waterboarding is a lot faster than cracking n/t w0nderer Dec 2015 #5
There goes computer security. Kablooie Dec 2015 #6
No, there'll be quantum encryption as well, bvf Dec 2015 #7
Anything previously encrypted with standard encryption though, that is saved on nsa computers, can.. AZ Progressive Dec 2015 #9
True, if anyone manages to implement bvf Dec 2015 #11
16 bits (x'DB59') Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #15
Exactly my point, which I probably wasn't very clear on. bvf Dec 2015 #21
You were clear. I was just supporting your conclusion. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #25
Thanks for that! bvf Dec 2015 #27
But who will have quantum computers that can create the quantum encryption? Kablooie Dec 2015 #19
The technology will eventually work its way down bvf Dec 2015 #23
Solutions come from problems. eggplant Dec 2015 #8
Kim Stanley Robinson agrees somewhat, but goes further. byronius Dec 2015 #10
Butterflys work great for the FFT too. bemildred Dec 2015 #12
Who own the intellectual property rights? Taitertots Dec 2015 #14
They should also get a solid state hard drive for that baby. Nye Bevan Dec 2015 #16
42 MosheFeingold Dec 2015 #18
lol n/t w0nderer Dec 2015 #20
Our quantum computer is 100 million times faster than normal PC AlbertCat Dec 2015 #22
heh,,, I remember I was trying to wrap my head around that, but my head exploded PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #24

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
2. If you ask it the right question.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:01 AM
Dec 2015

If the right person asks me the right question, I'm faster than that:

Halle Berry: "Hey, wanna--"

Me, lighting a cigarette: "That was great!"

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
3. After my Windows 10 upgrade experience I believe it!
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 12:31 AM
Dec 2015

Wow...did that PC get sloooooow.

It was so bad I switched from windows PC and windows phone to an iMac and iPhone. Best purchases i've made in a very long time.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
13. Hmm I am on a 4 year old laptop running windows 10 and only 4gb memory and I havent noticed any
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:29 AM
Dec 2015

such slowness with this system vs windows 7.

Submariner

(13,365 posts)
17. I have 2 gb memory
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 06:49 PM
Dec 2015

and the first ten minutes were excruciating. A background scan by windows would slow everything to a crawl until the windows 10 upgrade window would pop up at every boot up/restart asking me if i want to upgrade to windows 10 Pro.

I would check the 'don't remind me' box, but it never worked. It always reminded me and slowed the machine in the process. Windows update also took a long time to process. Windows 7 was much smoother, but I was forced into the windows 10 upgrade, and my 4yr old laptop didn't like the background scans a bit.

I now have 16 gb of memory with a 512 gb flash drive for a hard drive now that has me online within 10 seconds of boot up. Lightning fast, so I'm spoiled now and there is no going back.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
6. There goes computer security.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:45 AM
Dec 2015

Once quantum computers are functional they will be able to crack all current security schemes within seconds. No more private communications or bank accounts. Everything will be able to be read openly.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
7. No, there'll be quantum encryption as well,
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:19 AM
Dec 2015

which will effectively make communication systems more, not less, secure. The mechanism escapes me offhand, but I think it has to do with enabling near-instantaneous detection of any attempts at intrusion in the pathway.

Well, that's what I've read, anyway.

ETA: I've heard that D-Wave's technology was really not based on QC, but some sort of hybrid of QC and conventional processing. (That was in the effort's infancy, IIRC. Things may have changed since then.)

Anyway, science and evolution march on, and I love reading about this stuff, even though a lot of it goes "Whoosh!"

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
9. Anything previously encrypted with standard encryption though, that is saved on nsa computers, can..
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 03:26 AM
Dec 2015

be decrypted with quantum computers.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
11. True, if anyone manages to implement
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:46 AM
Dec 2015

Shor's algorithm or something similar that is capable of factoring RSA-level integers anytime soon, that's a problem in the short term. As of late last year though, we were only talking about factoring numbers as large as 56153. That's what? 16 bits?

Moore's Law aside (and I don't even know if it applies to this newfangled stuff), I'm not worried (yet!).

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
21. Exactly my point, which I probably wasn't very clear on.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:04 PM
Dec 2015

There's a lo-o-ong way to go. I don't think we'll be seeing hackers pounding away at QC laptops (that's a joke) capable of extricating factors of 128- or even 256-bit (much less 4096-bit) primes any time soon.

Nobody's hair should be on fire here, but when news like the above gets picked up by the popular press for consumption, you can guess the magnitude of unfounded concern among the general readership that might result.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
27. Thanks for that!
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 11:08 AM
Dec 2015

I re-read my post and thought it may have come across as vaguely alarmist.

Kablooie

(19,107 posts)
19. But who will have quantum computers that can create the quantum encryption?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:25 PM
Dec 2015

Not you or I.
Probably not even your bank.

Only other nations or super rich James Bond type villains will have the capability of encrypting and decrypting quantum algorithms unless quantum computers become commonplace and that is not likely anytime in the near future.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
23. The technology will eventually work its way down
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:23 PM
Dec 2015

(over years--more likely decades). It's always worked that way. That's how we got here, talking about this very thing, thank DARPA.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
8. Solutions come from problems.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 02:39 AM
Dec 2015

Yes, conventional encryption depends on the idea that brute-force decryption is unworkably slow in comparison to the time it takes to do encryption. I don't think that quantum computing changes this disparity.

And even if it does, there's money to be made in coming up with better solutions. Sure, today's encryption won't last forever, but there will always be secrets and ways to keep them that way.

byronius

(7,973 posts)
10. Kim Stanley Robinson agrees somewhat, but goes further.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:02 AM
Dec 2015

Everyone will have to have one, or surrender privacy. And the end result of all that electronic brinksmanship will be all-powerful AI's that may or may not wish our species to continue.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. Butterflys work great for the FFT too.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 04:47 AM
Dec 2015

It will have all sorts of effects if they can break strong encryption. If you can solve NP-complete problems in polynonial time, it will break all kinds of things. But I think it may well be the case that it stays a special purpose architecture, like the butterfly.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=670008&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D670008

Scalability makes severe demands once you get serious about it.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
14. Who own the intellectual property rights?
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 08:37 AM
Dec 2015

Sounds like we're paying (going halfsies) to upgrade google's servers.

If the government does own it the government shouldn't be funding it.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. They should also get a solid state hard drive for that baby.
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

I found that to really speed up my boot time.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
22. Our quantum computer is 100 million times faster than normal PC
Thu Dec 10, 2015, 11:05 PM
Dec 2015

It's just correct and incorrect at the same time....

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
24. heh,,, I remember I was trying to wrap my head around that, but my head exploded
Fri Dec 11, 2015, 02:55 AM
Dec 2015

My IT skills were of no help. I suppose it's time to get my PhD in physics so I can at least maybe get the next generation of entry-level compTIA certifications.

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