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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:24 PM Dec 2015

Trump's Medical Report Is More Insane Than His Campaign Somehow

Source: Daily Beast

Donald Trump’s doctor released a medical report so silly that when we asked the American Medical Association about its language, their spokesman started to laugh.

Donald Trump’s doctor appears to be just as bombastic as he is.

It’s the only conclusion to be drawn from a hilariously bizarre letter that the mogul’s doctor—Harold Bornstein—wrote about his yuuuugely terrific health. And the letter raises as many questions as it answers.

For example, he describes Trump’s recent physical exam as “show[ing] only positive results.” While it’s clear he means to say everything was normal, the word “positive” is an odd use of the term in medicine. Rather, it typically means that some result or finding was present—and those findings aren’t always great news (think testing positive for a disease). The wording is clearly chosen more for rhetorical effect than clear medical communication—and that choice left some experts scratching their heads.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/14/the-donald-s-trumped-up-medical-report.html

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Trump's Medical Report Is More Insane Than His Campaign Somehow (Original Post) Calista241 Dec 2015 OP
Betcha kroner to krugerrands Trump or his staff drafted the letter The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #1
He's up to 41 percent likely nominee in latest polls yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #5
Big Trump fan eh? Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #13
Interesting isn't it why anyone would watch a underthematrix Dec 2015 #42
Uh, ones a Democratic poll and the other a Republican poll, derrrrrr Darb Dec 2015 #37
Yes. I thought either the doctor is LiberalElite Dec 2015 #7
When I heard it on television, PatSeg Dec 2015 #38
"Trust Me" oioioi Dec 2015 #2
"Normally a positive result in the language of medicine is not a good thing. " uppityperson Dec 2015 #3
How'd that Wasserman Test* turn out? Positive! mpcamb Dec 2015 #20
For example, I took an AIDS test once and was glad I wasn't positive. Positive bad, negative good... winstars Dec 2015 #4
Very weird... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #6
And if this doctor is a gastroenterologist, The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #8
If he's following guidelines... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #10
Between Trump's head and the tea party's lips, there wasn't any room for the probe jmowreader Dec 2015 #19
THAT header wins the Intertubes today! gregcrawford Dec 2015 #30
Between Trump's ass and the tea party's lips, there wasn't any room for the probe View profile Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #41
maybe he needed one to find his head... Locrian Dec 2015 #33
Reminds me of the doctor on Joe and the Volcano. LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #9
Reminds me of Dr. Nick Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #26
Trump teeing off in January 2015 Jarqui Dec 2015 #11
you can be sure NJCher Dec 2015 #12
Why didn't his PR person, or his... 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #25
Positive weight gain. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #17
So Trump doesn't and hasn't ever consumed alcohol? I find that odd. Shrike47 Dec 2015 #14
As riled up and angry as he usually is, there is no way... 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #23
Meet The Doctor bigworld Dec 2015 #15
Seriously? 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #24
Jeepers. Isn't that Dr Gonzo? truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #29
That article says "spent his entire career as a resident at Lenox Hill Hospital." mainer Dec 2015 #34
I keep saying that trump has become political Chuck Norris VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #16
I loved this part: niyad Dec 2015 #18
Trump = SmittynMo Dec 2015 #21
Odd wording, indeed. A more appropriate adjective for desirable lab results... 3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #22
all positive? w0nderer Dec 2015 #27
Cartoon bullshit. I want to see the real results. truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #28
Based on his appearance, probably high blood pressure and high cholesterol. yardwork Dec 2015 #31
Is there any aspect of the Trump campaign that is close to sane? Gothmog Dec 2015 #32
I heard that Trump can juggle fifteen balls simultaneously. randome Dec 2015 #35
How healthy can a sack of crap with a pound of roadkill on it's head be? lonestarnot Dec 2015 #36
This only proves the doctor is in on the joke mainer Dec 2015 #39
I just don't get why the need to be so over-the-top bigworld Dec 2015 #40

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
1. Betcha kroner to krugerrands Trump or his staff drafted the letter
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:28 PM
Dec 2015

Last edited Tue Dec 15, 2015, 01:50 AM - Edit history (1)

for the doctor to sign. There's something very un-doctor-ish about it.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. He's up to 41 percent likely nominee in latest polls
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is at 50 percent. Hard to believe he is that close with 14 others in the race. Very interesting times. I can't wait for tomorrow's debate where trump craps on Cruz. Lol. Saturday I have the DVR set.

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
42. Interesting isn't it why anyone would watch a
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:16 PM
Dec 2015

hate mongerer when the last thing we need in our political discourse is more hate mongering. This may be why the MSM keeps covering NAZI Alzheimer TRUMP #NAT because so many people see politics as entertainment. They don't get that politics is about policies that affect our lives.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
37. Uh, ones a Democratic poll and the other a Republican poll, derrrrrr
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:15 AM
Dec 2015

they are not even asking the same type of person. Those totals have literally NOTHING to do with each other.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. Yes. I thought either the doctor is
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:49 PM
Dec 2015

being humorous (and unprofessional) or someone else wrote it - which doesn't leave him off the hook because presumably he'd have to review, approve and sign it. Maybe there will be Part II of this story tomorrow, when we'll read "Trump's Doctor Disavows Fraudulent Medical Report."

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
38. When I heard it on television,
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:12 AM
Dec 2015

my reaction was that it sounded like it was dictated by Trump. It sounds a lot like he talks. Then he just had a doctor sign it.

oioioi

(1,127 posts)
2. "Trust Me"
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:29 PM
Dec 2015

The people get the leaders they deserve
Democracy by popularity
This side show though is good enough for me
I see that Tweedledee has touched a nerve

Cast laughter not your vote upon this knave
With every word another blatant lie
Nobody brainy believes in this guy
After all those awful interviews he gave

We must stay silent whilst he has the floor
No-one may dare to question what he said
As if you do, he'll show you to the door
And if you ignored that edict - you'd be dead
I'm sure that we've all seen this shit before
That's why we'll vote for someone else instead

- nearbeer

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
3. "Normally a positive result in the language of medicine is not a good thing. "
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:29 PM
Dec 2015

What an odd letter for a doctor to write and indeed. Testing positive is usually not a good thing.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
20. How'd that Wasserman Test* turn out? Positive!
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:17 PM
Dec 2015

*The Wassermann test or Wassermann reaction (WR) is an antibody test for syphilis, named after the bacteriologist August Paul von Wassermann, based on complement-fixation.

winstars

(4,220 posts)
4. For example, I took an AIDS test once and was glad I wasn't positive. Positive bad, negative good...
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:33 PM
Dec 2015

Thats all.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
6. Very weird...
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:47 PM
Dec 2015

Who uses a gastroenterologist as their pcp? I read the letter and it read more like propaganda than a medical endorsement

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
8. And if this doctor is a gastroenterologist,
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:54 PM
Dec 2015

where's Trump's colonoscopy report, considering a guy his age should be getting them?

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
10. If he's following guidelines...
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:07 PM
Dec 2015

He should have had at least two, one at 50 and again at 60. It just seems very strange to me that he would choose a subspecialist as his primary. As a specialist myself, it's hard enough to stay up to date in my own field much less the current trends in primary care. Yet, this doctor has "the healthiest presidential candidate ever" on a cholesterol medicine and a baby aspirin! Is there a family history of heart disease? Has "The Don" had a heart attack in the past? Is the GI doc following him for an undisclosed gastrointestinal issue? Inquiring minds want to know

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
11. Trump teeing off in January 2015
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:24 PM
Dec 2015


http://worldredeye.com/2015/01/donald-trump-unveils-red-tiger-at-trump-national-doral/

looks like more than 15 lbs of a weight problem to me

He's had the problem for a while (2012 with his daughter)... "HUGE!!!" ...


Campaigning with his nearly 70 year old gut in November 2015




Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
14. So Trump doesn't and hasn't ever consumed alcohol? I find that odd.
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:50 PM
Dec 2015

Also, his appearance and demeanor seem at odds with the purported blood pressure.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
24. Seriously?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:30 AM
Dec 2015

They have icky hair in common.

An additional thought, already commented upon elsewhere - subspecialists usually do not manage general health care needs.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
34. That article says "spent his entire career as a resident at Lenox Hill Hospital."
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:06 AM
Dec 2015

That can't be correct. It's like saying "spent his entire career as an apprentice."

niyad

(113,284 posts)
18. I loved this part:
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:05 PM
Dec 2015

Bornstein, a Manhattan gastroenterologist who shared a medical practice with his father, writes he has been Trump’s doctor since 1980. His father, Jacob Bornstein, died in 2010 at the age of 93. But that didn’t stop Trump from Twitter-thanking Bornstein the elder for writing up his letter.

“I am proud to share this health report, written by the highly respected Dr. Jacob Bornstein of Lenox Hill Hospital,” the mogul tweeted, linking to the letter.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
21. Trump =
Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:19 PM
Dec 2015

Rhetoric, shock, and awe. They are already stating on their next line of bullshit to get the MSM humping again. Ya know, we gotta get those ratings!!!

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
22. Odd wording, indeed. A more appropriate adjective for desirable lab results...
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 12:25 AM
Dec 2015

...would be "favorable."

When I walk into an exam room and tell a patient's mother that her child's rapid flu test is positive, she knows that means the child HAS influenza.

w0nderer

(1,937 posts)
27. all positive?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:42 AM
Dec 2015

he's
positively facist
positively anti migrant
positively violent
positively pro-torture
positively mostly mad
doc is positive of all the above heh

if Americans vote for him they'll positively be f**ked

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
32. Is there any aspect of the Trump campaign that is close to sane?
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:00 AM
Dec 2015

This medical report is par for this campaign

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
35. I heard that Trump can juggle fifteen balls simultaneously.
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:37 AM
Dec 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

mainer

(12,022 posts)
39. This only proves the doctor is in on the joke
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:48 AM
Dec 2015

The doctor appears to have excellent credentials and I can't imagine he'd actually write something like this, except as satire. It's gotta be an inside joke between him and Trump. Or someone else wrote it for him.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
40. I just don't get why the need to be so over-the-top
Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:55 AM
Dec 2015

I mean, Trump is 70, and appears reasonably physically fit for a 70 year old. Why not just ... say that? I don't understand this extreme need to be Kim Il-Sung level bombastic and state that he's the fittest person to ever be elected.

Guess I just can't get into this weird Trump mindset.

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