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Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:24 PM

Trump's Medical Report Is More Insane Than His Campaign Somehow

Source: Daily Beast

Donald Trump’s doctor released a medical report so silly that when we asked the American Medical Association about its language, their spokesman started to laugh.

Donald Trump’s doctor appears to be just as bombastic as he is.

It’s the only conclusion to be drawn from a hilariously bizarre letter that the mogul’s doctor—Harold Bornstein—wrote about his yuuuugely terrific health. And the letter raises as many questions as it answers.

For example, he describes Trump’s recent physical exam as “show[ing] only positive results.” While it’s clear he means to say everything was normal, the word “positive” is an odd use of the term in medicine. Rather, it typically means that some result or finding was present—and those findings aren’t always great news (think testing positive for a disease). The wording is clearly chosen more for rhetorical effect than clear medical communication—and that choice left some experts scratching their heads.

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/12/14/the-donald-s-trumped-up-medical-report.html

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Reply Trump's Medical Report Is More Insane Than His Campaign Somehow (Original post)
Calista241 Dec 2015 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #1
yeoman6987 Dec 2015 #5
Kingofalldems Dec 2015 #13
underthematrix Dec 2015 #42
Darb Dec 2015 #37
LiberalElite Dec 2015 #7
PatSeg Dec 2015 #38
oioioi Dec 2015 #2
uppityperson Dec 2015 #3
mpcamb Dec 2015 #20
winstars Dec 2015 #4
Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2015 #8
Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #10
jmowreader Dec 2015 #19
gregcrawford Dec 2015 #30
Wounded Bear Dec 2015 #41
Locrian Dec 2015 #33
LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #9
Art_from_Ark Dec 2015 #26
Jarqui Dec 2015 #11
NJCher Dec 2015 #12
3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #25
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2015 #17
Shrike47 Dec 2015 #14
3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #23
bigworld Dec 2015 #15
3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #24
truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #29
mainer Dec 2015 #34
VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #16
niyad Dec 2015 #18
SmittynMo Dec 2015 #21
3catwoman3 Dec 2015 #22
w0nderer Dec 2015 #27
truthisfreedom Dec 2015 #28
yardwork Dec 2015 #31
Gothmog Dec 2015 #32
randome Dec 2015 #35
lonestarnot Dec 2015 #36
mainer Dec 2015 #39
bigworld Dec 2015 #40

Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:28 PM

1. Betcha kroner to krugerrands Trump or his staff drafted the letter

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for the doctor to sign. There's something very un-doctor-ish about it.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:45 PM

5. He's up to 41 percent likely nominee in latest polls

 

Hillary is at 50 percent. Hard to believe he is that close with 14 others in the race. Very interesting times. I can't wait for tomorrow's debate where trump craps on Cruz. Lol. Saturday I have the DVR set.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:42 PM

13. Big Trump fan eh?

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Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:16 AM

42. Interesting isn't it why anyone would watch a

hate mongerer when the last thing we need in our political discourse is more hate mongering. This may be why the MSM keeps covering NAZI Alzheimer TRUMP #NAT because so many people see politics as entertainment. They don't get that politics is about policies that affect our lives.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 09:15 AM

37. Uh, ones a Democratic poll and the other a Republican poll, derrrrrr

 

they are not even asking the same type of person. Those totals have literally NOTHING to do with each other.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:49 PM

7. Yes. I thought either the doctor is

being humorous (and unprofessional) or someone else wrote it - which doesn't leave him off the hook because presumably he'd have to review, approve and sign it. Maybe there will be Part II of this story tomorrow, when we'll read "Trump's Doctor Disavows Fraudulent Medical Report."

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:12 AM

38. When I heard it on television,

my reaction was that it sounded like it was dictated by Trump. It sounds a lot like he talks. Then he just had a doctor sign it.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:29 PM

2. "Trust Me"

The people get the leaders they deserve
Democracy by popularity
This side show though is good enough for me
I see that Tweedledee has touched a nerve

Cast laughter not your vote upon this knave
With every word another blatant lie
Nobody brainy believes in this guy
After all those awful interviews he gave

We must stay silent whilst he has the floor
No-one may dare to question what he said
As if you do, he'll show you to the door
And if you ignored that edict - you'd be dead
I'm sure that we've all seen this shit before
That's why we'll vote for someone else instead

- nearbeer

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:29 PM

3. "Normally a positive result in the language of medicine is not a good thing. "

What an odd letter for a doctor to write and indeed. Testing positive is usually not a good thing.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:17 PM

20. How'd that Wasserman Test* turn out? Positive!

*The Wassermann test or Wassermann reaction (WR) is an antibody test for syphilis, named after the bacteriologist August Paul von Wassermann, based on complement-fixation.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:33 PM

4. For example, I took an AIDS test once and was glad I wasn't positive. Positive bad, negative good...

Thats all.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:47 PM

6. Very weird...

Who uses a gastroenterologist as their pcp? I read the letter and it read more like propaganda than a medical endorsement

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #6)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 07:54 PM

8. And if this doctor is a gastroenterologist,

where's Trump's colonoscopy report, considering a guy his age should be getting them?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:07 PM

10. If he's following guidelines...

He should have had at least two, one at 50 and again at 60. It just seems very strange to me that he would choose a subspecialist as his primary. As a specialist myself, it's hard enough to stay up to date in my own field much less the current trends in primary care. Yet, this doctor has "the healthiest presidential candidate ever" on a cholesterol medicine and a baby aspirin! Is there a family history of heart disease? Has "The Don" had a heart attack in the past? Is the GI doc following him for an undisclosed gastrointestinal issue? Inquiring minds want to know

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:14 PM

19. Between Trump's head and the tea party's lips, there wasn't any room for the probe

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:29 AM

30. THAT header wins the Intertubes today!

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 11:07 AM

41. Between Trump's ass and the tea party's lips, there wasn't any room for the probe View profile

FIFY

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:04 AM

33. maybe he needed one to find his head...

you know.... because it's up his .....

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:05 PM

9. Reminds me of the doctor on Joe and the Volcano.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:47 PM

26. Reminds me of Dr. Nick

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:24 PM

11. Trump teeing off in January 2015



http://worldredeye.com/2015/01/donald-trump-unveils-red-tiger-at-trump-national-doral/

looks like more than 15 lbs of a weight problem to me

He's had the problem for a while (2012 with his daughter)... "HUGE!!!" ...


Campaigning with his nearly 70 year old gut in November 2015




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Response to Jarqui (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:40 PM

12. you can be sure

He was comparing him to this:







Cher

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Response to NJCher (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:35 PM

25. Why didn't his PR person, or his...

...wife, stop him from wearing those pants? Words fail...

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #11)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:32 PM

17. Positive weight gain. nt

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 08:50 PM

14. So Trump doesn't and hasn't ever consumed alcohol? I find that odd.

Also, his appearance and demeanor seem at odds with the purported blood pressure.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #14)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:27 PM

23. As riled up and angry as he usually is, there is no way...

...that I believe his BP is 110/65.

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Response to bigworld (Reply #15)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:30 PM

24. Seriously?

They have icky hair in common.

An additional thought, already commented upon elsewhere - subspecialists usually do not manage general health care needs.

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Response to bigworld (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:27 AM

29. Jeepers. Isn't that Dr Gonzo?

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Response to bigworld (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:06 AM

34. That article says "spent his entire career as a resident at Lenox Hill Hospital."

That can't be correct. It's like saying "spent his entire career as an apprentice."

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:03 PM

16. I keep saying that trump has become political Chuck Norris

 

He is mythological!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:05 PM

18. I loved this part:

Bornstein, a Manhattan gastroenterologist who shared a medical practice with his father, writes he has been Trump’s doctor since 1980. His father, Jacob Bornstein, died in 2010 at the age of 93. But that didn’t stop Trump from Twitter-thanking Bornstein the elder for writing up his letter.

“I am proud to share this health report, written by the highly respected Dr. Jacob Bornstein of Lenox Hill Hospital,” the mogul tweeted, linking to the letter.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:19 PM

21. Trump =

Rhetoric, shock, and awe. They are already stating on their next line of bullshit to get the MSM humping again. Ya know, we gotta get those ratings!!!

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:25 PM

22. Odd wording, indeed. A more appropriate adjective for desirable lab results...

...would be "favorable."

When I walk into an exam room and tell a patient's mother that her child's rapid flu test is positive, she knows that means the child HAS influenza.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:42 AM

27. all positive?

he's
positively facist
positively anti migrant
positively violent
positively pro-torture
positively mostly mad
doc is positive of all the above heh

if Americans vote for him they'll positively be f**ked

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 03:25 AM

28. Cartoon bullshit. I want to see the real results.

He's covering something up, something big.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 07:43 AM

31. Based on his appearance, probably high blood pressure and high cholesterol.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:00 AM

32. Is there any aspect of the Trump campaign that is close to sane?

This medical report is par for this campaign

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:37 AM

35. I heard that Trump can juggle fifteen balls simultaneously.

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 08:51 AM

36. How healthy can a sack of crap with a pound of roadkill on it's head be?

 

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:48 AM

39. This only proves the doctor is in on the joke

The doctor appears to have excellent credentials and I can't imagine he'd actually write something like this, except as satire. It's gotta be an inside joke between him and Trump. Or someone else wrote it for him.

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Response to Calista241 (Original post)

Tue Dec 15, 2015, 10:55 AM

40. I just don't get why the need to be so over-the-top

I mean, Trump is 70, and appears reasonably physically fit for a 70 year old. Why not just ... say that? I don't understand this extreme need to be Kim Il-Sung level bombastic and state that he's the fittest person to ever be elected.

Guess I just can't get into this weird Trump mindset.

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