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azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 06:58 PM Dec 2015

12-year-old Sikh boy arrested in US after classmate accuses him of carrying a bomb

Source: business standard

Armaan Singh Sarai, a 12-year-old boy from an American-Sikh family, was arrested by the Dallas police on December 11 and held for three consecutive days after he was accused by a “bully” in his class of carrying a bomb to school, claims his cousin in a Facebook post.

Ginee Haer, who claims to be Armaan’s cousin, took to Facebook to describe the boy's ordeal. Describing Armaan as a “goofball”, Haer tells us how her cousin was born and raised in Texas and recently moved to Dallas with his family. The post goes on to describe Armaan’s congenital heart condition, which has led him to having three open heart surgeries. This she said had already made settling in a new location difficult.

According to Haer, Armaan was arrested by the police on December 11 on the basis of an accusation by one of his school-mates. Haer writes: “A bully in class thought it would be funny to accuse him of having a bomb, and so the principal, without any questioning, interrogation, or notification to his parents, called the police.”

Haer goes on to describe how Armaan’s family contacted every police department in the area in a bid to locate him, only to find out that he had been sent to a juvenile facility.


Read more: http://www.business-standard.com/article/beyond-business/12-year-old-sikh-boy-arrested-in-us-after-classmate-accuses-him-of-carrying-a-bomb-115121700360_1.html

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12-year-old Sikh boy arrested in US after classmate accuses him of carrying a bomb (Original Post) azurnoir Dec 2015 OP
What have we become? ghostsinthemachine Dec 2015 #1
We have become exactly what TPTB wanted Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #2
Funny thing FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #6
They ARE the same thing! OffWithTheirHeads Dec 2015 #13
If there were no enemy we would have to create... never mind, too late. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #17
+1,000 n/t LarryNM Dec 2015 #42
+1 2naSalit Dec 2015 #8
And now when this family sues they'll be bashed just like the "radio boy's" family was . . . brush Dec 2015 #52
Lawsuit Botany Dec 2015 #3
No shit, and the bully boy needs a stint in juvie, too Warpy Dec 2015 #5
I'd be more than happy to put the christx30 Dec 2015 #11
Texas is a problem rockfordfile Dec 2015 #56
The bully's parents could end up paying a large civil judgment for failing to tblue37 Dec 2015 #22
Nope. Drahthaardogs Dec 2015 #27
That is the problem. No investigation was done. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #41
If the principal got a report from a student christx30 Dec 2015 #48
No problem in calling the police but there is a problem in the principle or the police not cofirming uponit7771 Dec 2015 #55
I agree that the parents should have been called. christx30 Dec 2015 #57
Looks like from the story the teach, principle and police knew there was no bomb and the kid says he uponit7771 Dec 2015 #59
Yep. $$$ is all that people in the world today understand. closeupready Dec 2015 #60
Dallas morning news link OKNancy Dec 2015 #4
It is getting almost impossible to believe anything ghostsinthemachine Dec 2015 #9
Thanks for the better link. This story is considerably different than portrayed in the OP. . . Journeyman Dec 2015 #28
It certainly is. 840high Dec 2015 #32
+1 Tarheel_Dem Dec 2015 #37
friggen unreal. niyad Dec 2015 #54
I am shocked more American Muslims havent been beaten or killed by the filthy racist scum. randys1 Dec 2015 #7
...or Americans of Indian, Persian, Arabic back-grounds etherealtruth Dec 2015 #23
Yes, lots of that too randys1 Dec 2015 #24
Are they saying "Please sue us" at this point? Do they want to give money to Armaan? ck4829 Dec 2015 #10
read post 4 840high Dec 2015 #33
Unfortunately the Sikhs in America might be the most visible to the ignorant because of the turbans, ANOIS Dec 2015 #12
Ugh. The comments. "Diversity is bad!" mainer Dec 2015 #14
Sue these School districts silly katsy Dec 2015 #15
At least it wasn't a teacher this time KamaAina Dec 2015 #16
OMG!!!! What the hell is wrong with people!!!! newfie11 Dec 2015 #18
So, maybe I missed something but is this story purely based on a post on facebook without any cstanleytech Dec 2015 #19
Here's a link to a better article about the event . . . Journeyman Dec 2015 #38
Thanks, that puts an entirely different picture and if its true the kid was stupid to make a joke cstanleytech Dec 2015 #43
It will be interesting to see what the real story is. ManiacJoe Dec 2015 #20
If the story is as it reads DFW Dec 2015 #21
I could agree with most but the problem is though it appears to be purely based around a facebook cstanleytech Dec 2015 #25
See the link in #4, or #26 if #4 doesn't load for you muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #29
It happened back home DFW Dec 2015 #31
This appears to be about several kids joking about bombs; he got sent to the juvenile facility muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #26
Joke about having a bomb? Not smart. 840high Dec 2015 #34
No, it never is; but he is 12 muriel_volestrangler Dec 2015 #35
The punishment was harsh. 840high Dec 2015 #46
don't let the bigots win...;( mgmaggiemg Dec 2015 #30
Isn't the kid who essentially "filed" a false report liable? KittyWampus Dec 2015 #36
no. There was a joke about having a bomb. 840high Dec 2015 #47
first off: i hope the parents sue the school district , police and the bullies parents allan01 Dec 2015 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author allan01 Dec 2015 #40
Jesus H. Christ. We're more and more like Germany, circa 1934 with each passing day. catbyte Dec 2015 #44
Trump Tower. Nailzberg Dec 2015 #53
Probably sent to a for-profit juvenile facility. dencol Dec 2015 #45
So the 12 year old kid was acting stupid and said he had a bomb PersonNumber503602 Dec 2015 #49
Agree. 840high Dec 2015 #51
maybe it happened the way his cousin posted & maybe not.... burfman Dec 2015 #50
No excuse for putting a 12 year old in handcuffs. rockfordfile Dec 2015 #58
Our country (or at least Texas) has gone nuts. n/t MBS Dec 2015 #61

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
2. We have become exactly what TPTB wanted
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:07 PM
Dec 2015

terrified sheeple with a strong dose of ignorance.

It's not a symptom, it was planned and taught.

brush

(53,778 posts)
52. And now when this family sues they'll be bashed just like the "radio boy's" family was . . .
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 01:13 AM
Dec 2015

when they sued.

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
5. No shit, and the bully boy needs a stint in juvie, too
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:12 PM
Dec 2015

to see exactly what he did to his classmate; a little reality check, not enough to educate him in better bullying.

Hell, even settling out of court might pay his way through college.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
11. I'd be more than happy to put the
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:22 PM
Dec 2015

bully in juvie. He pretty much filed a false report. He is 100% responsible for everything that happened that day, and the arrest of the innocent boy. It's not different from that SWATTING thing that's been happening online a lot. Dangerous and stupid.

tblue37

(65,357 posts)
22. The bully's parents could end up paying a large civil judgment for failing to
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

teach their kid about basic human decency. The school and PD will end up paying higher insurance premiums once they settle with the family.

Idiot sticks all.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
27. Nope.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:14 PM
Dec 2015

Principal had no choice. It is the way the world works these days. All claims have to be investigated.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
48. If the principal got a report from a student
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:37 PM
Dec 2015

that there was a gun in his backpack, would you want the principal to investigate himself, and risk his life and the lives of any students that were in the area, or would you want him to let the police handle it?
I mean, any answer is going to be wrong, depending on the outcome. If there is a gun, and the police aren't called, the principal is "reckless, wanted to be a hero", ect. If there's no gun, and the police are called, the principal is "racist, jumping at shadows," ect.

I think calling the police was the right move. Holding the Sikh child for 3 days was absolutely wrong. Question him, talk to his parents just to make sure everyone is safe, then expel/arrest the bully for giving a false report.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
55. No problem in calling the police but there is a problem in the principle or the police not cofirming
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015

... any of the information the bully reported...

That was stupid...

Then

Carrying the child off with no attempt to contact the parents or centralize information of where the young man was.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
57. I agree that the parents should have been called.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dec 2015

That should have been the second call the principal made. He screwed up there. When my son pushed a bully down, the principal called me 10 minutes after getting the situation calmed down.
As for not checking the bag, well, if I though there was a bomb in a bag, I know I wouldn't touch it.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
59. Looks like from the story the teach, principle and police knew there was no bomb and the kid says he
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:20 PM
Dec 2015

... never admitted to there being a bomb in the bad to the police which wouldn't be actionable seeing they didn't have his parents present.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
9. It is getting almost impossible to believe anything
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dec 2015

that starts with the words "According to police"......

niyad

(113,306 posts)
54. friggen unreal.
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 02:51 PM
Dec 2015

. . .

Now, Armaan must wear an ankle monitor while he is under house arrest awaiting a court date.

‘Serious stuff’

Armaan said police interviewed him briefly Friday without his parents present and then evacuated a classroom to examine his backpack.

He was handcuffed and taken to the detention facility in a squad car.

. . . .

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
23. ...or Americans of Indian, Persian, Arabic back-grounds
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:00 PM
Dec 2015

Apparently, (to the limited intelligence of most bigots) people of Indian, Persian, Arabic .... etc heritage are all "Muslim" despite being Hindu, Sikh, Zoroastrian, Christian, Atheist ...


*noting that most Muslims are regular folk that just want to live life like you and me

ck4829

(35,076 posts)
10. Are they saying "Please sue us" at this point? Do they want to give money to Armaan?
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:18 PM
Dec 2015

Even AFTER it was clear he didn't have a bomb, why hold him for three days?!

ANOIS

(112 posts)
12. Unfortunately the Sikhs in America might be the most visible to the ignorant because of the turbans,
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

but their religion is very peace-oriented.

Also, it is not even a Muslim religion.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
14. Ugh. The comments. "Diversity is bad!"
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:31 PM
Dec 2015

There are actually people in Texas who believe the country is better if there are only white people marrying their cousins.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
15. Sue these School districts silly
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:39 PM
Dec 2015

Sue them until the taxpayers cry "uncle" and elect/hire officials qualified to do the job and understand applicable laws.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
18. OMG!!!! What the hell is wrong with people!!!!
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:46 PM
Dec 2015

They jailed a 12 year old kid without proof of anything or notifying his parents!
Gestapo!!!!!
I hope they sue the hell out of that police dept.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
19. So, maybe I missed something but is this story purely based on a post on facebook without any
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:47 PM
Dec 2015

confirmation that the event described even took place?

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
43. Thanks, that puts an entirely different picture and if its true the kid was stupid to make a joke
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:35 PM
Dec 2015

about having a bomb.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
21. If the story is as it reads
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 07:59 PM
Dec 2015

The bully needs to go away for a year at least in juvenile detention, the principal of the school needs to be fired, and the cops need to be sued and suspended.

And that's for starters. There has to be severe penalties for the perpetrators of this kind of incident. This is not 1938, Texas is not Nazi Germany, and we are not all Jews, Gypsies and gays. We have remedies for this. We need to implement them before we can't.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
25. I could agree with most but the problem is though it appears to be purely based around a facebook
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:07 PM
Dec 2015

posting.
I mean its possible that I missed but I dont recall seeing anything that confirmed thats any of the events even took place, not a statement from the police or any government agency nor the alleged parents or anything other than this supposed cousin on facebook.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
29. See the link in #4, or #26 if #4 doesn't load for you
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:15 PM
Dec 2015

(it doesn't for me) for the police statement on this. And #4 for what his brother posted on Facebook while he was in the facility.

DFW

(54,379 posts)
31. It happened back home
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:34 PM
Dec 2015

Now if I can only find someone back home who actually reads the newspaper....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
26. This appears to be about several kids joking about bombs; he got sent to the juvenile facility
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:13 PM
Dec 2015

when he said he had a bomb in his backpack, and it seems no-one else did.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=943124159057531&set=pcb.943124182390862&type=3&theater

And credit to RT for finding that - if you can't read it:

“If I and other people can think this is not justifiable because my 12 year old brother who has a heart problem whos scared of the dark, would get sent to a jail for opening his backpack and saying he had a bomb to other kids around him probably because they were talking about ISIS as well,” he continued, “and they were able to go home safely to their families.”

https://www.rt.com/usa/326363-sikh-student-bomb-threat/

I suspect you'd have had to be there to know exactly how it all came across.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
35. No, it never is; but he is 12
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 08:43 PM
Dec 2015

His brother does seem to be saying that sending him to the principal would have been a reasonable reaction. It's believable both that someone, perhaps within earshot, took it as a real threat; or that one or more of the other kids consciously exaggerated it to get him into trouble, when it could have gone unremarked. 3 days seems a long time to keep him unless you knew you were likely to charge him.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
39. first off: i hope the parents sue the school district , police and the bullies parents
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 09:18 PM
Dec 2015

wht is TPTB ? do not know TPTB . need input . i dont recognize this country anymore ." fear for fears sake. stupidity for stupiditys sake ." klatoo. the day the earth stood still, the original black and white film, not the horrid remake .

Response to azurnoir (Original post)

catbyte

(34,386 posts)
44. Jesus H. Christ. We're more and more like Germany, circa 1934 with each passing day.
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:00 PM
Dec 2015

I wonder where the GOP version of the Wannsee Conference will be held?



PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
49. So the 12 year old kid was acting stupid and said he had a bomb
Thu Dec 17, 2015, 10:47 PM
Dec 2015

I understand an initial concern that would cause it to be investigated, and even for the police to be called. What I don't understand is why it went as far as it did, even after it was determined that there was no bomb. Give the kid some sort of normal school punishment like detention, suspension, or whatever.

burfman

(264 posts)
50. maybe it happened the way his cousin posted & maybe not....
Fri Dec 18, 2015, 12:10 AM
Dec 2015

Here's the story from the Dallas News - I assume it's a respected paper - they did get a couple of Pulitzer prizes in the past:

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/2015/12/arlington-isd-says-12-year-old-sikh-student-arrested-for-making-threat-family-disputes-account.html/

strange days, wish everyone could take a chill pill.

Burfman.....

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